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p.103 #1 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Hi Eddie Ray,

I shot the whole PBR event at iso 3200 on the 5DSR. The 1DXII's would have really been the best choice for fast moving subjects like that, but I have fallen deeply in love with 150MB files and the DR of the 5DSR.



Aug 07, 2017 at 08:59 PM
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p.103 #2 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


My shot was ISO 12800! Really poor lighting. I was using the 7D II, should have taken the 5D III. It would have been a little better.










Aug 07, 2017 at 09:44 PM
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p.103 #3 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Unbelievably, wife has given permission for bro-in-law and me to go to Oshkosh He has two hotels on hold (one 30 min drive away and the other 50 minutes), The Hampton and the Windham, both in Green Bay, can someone explain what else we need to do - presumably we need to join EAA and then buy tickets. Anything else we need to know - availability of seating/better viewing etc etc?
Niall

The Lysander from Sunday







Aug 08, 2017 at 05:12 AM
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p.103 #4 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


There's no grandstands at Oshkosh. All airshow viewing is done from the grass along the flight line. There's not even a fence (or at least there wasn't the last time I went a few years ago) - they have a scorched line in the grass over which You Must Not Cross, and they have moped riders cruising up and down enforcing that. So you'll want to either bring chairs/blankets or just buy cheap ones from Walmart when you arrive.

There is a shuttle bus each day that runs to various points; maybe pick the hotel closest to the bus, check the website for where it goes.

You do need to join EAA if you want to camp (totally worth it) but I'm not sure about daily admission... actually I think if you buy a week-long ticket then the membership is included, but don't hold me to that.



Aug 08, 2017 at 05:44 AM
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futurshox wrote:
There's no grandstands at Oshkosh. All airshow viewing is done from the grass along the flight line. There's not even a fence (or at least there wasn't the last time I went a few years ago) - they have a scorched line in the grass over which You Must Not Cross, and they have moped riders cruising up and down enforcing that. So you'll want to either bring chairs/blankets or just buy cheap ones from Walmart when you arrive.

There is a shuttle bus each day that runs to various points; maybe pick the hotel closest to the bus, check the
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Thanks Very useful info
Niall



Aug 08, 2017 at 07:00 AM
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JWilsonphoto wrote:
Hi Bill,

I've been meaning to get your thoughts on my cinema stabilizing rig, and the new version that I want to build myself. I like the one I have, but the more I use it, the more I think it's not rocket science and there are probably a lot of ways that it could be improved upon. The reason for the sequel is to accommodate two Kenyon 8x8 gyros, mounted in vertical orientation on the bottom of the head platform. This feature, and incorporating a little wider base with vertically adjustable columns, will allow for cameras like my Sony FS/7
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Hey Jim,
Sorry for the late reply...You dream it up, we'll build it. Will need a print or something.
I have a fill engineering dept too so you can have a sit down or voice over with them.
We have done a few camera platforms for some retired cinema guys that retired up north and drones as well.
Most were black anodized or powder coated. Let me know if you have any ideas and I can send you a quote.
Quotes are free !



Aug 08, 2017 at 07:53 AM
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Aug 08, 2017 at 07:56 AM
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p.103 #8 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Niall,

I think you need to get EAA membership first $40 before you can then buy the weekly members pass.

Mark

nrferguson wrote:
Unbelievably, wife has given permission for bro-in-law and me to go to Oshkosh He has two hotels on hold (one 30 min drive away and the other 50 minutes), The Hampton and the Windham, both in Green Bay, can someone explain what else we need to do - presumably we need to join EAA and then buy tickets. Anything else we need to know - availability of seating/better viewing etc etc?
Niall

The Lysander from Sunday




Aug 08, 2017 at 08:08 AM
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p.103 #9 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


One other thing Niall, BA announced this morning that the A380 is going to operate the morning LHR to ORD route next summer.


Aug 08, 2017 at 08:14 AM
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MMcGrath wrote:
One other thing Niall, BA announced this morning that the A380 is going to operate the morning LHR to ORD route next summer.


Thanks for both bits of info
Niall



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Niall,

Joining the EAA gets you in for the weekly pass, a little discount on food and some other stuff at AirVenture. Most hotels have some sort of shuttle or can get you close to one going to and from the site.

I would plan on being as mobile as possible once you get on the grounds. Walking is the the name of the game. Take water, a little snack, sunblock, hat, maybe a rain poncho. Camera gear, I carry a camera and the extras on a Spider belt with some pouches, with my long lens slung over my shoulder.

If you take folding chairs, you can pick a spot on the airshow line, along the north south runway, and drop your chairs. 99% chance they will not be moved or molested by anyone when you come back to them later in the day. This is the most well behaved airshow crowd I have ever seen. I liked the view at mid field, south of the announcers stand.

They have a couple of elevated platforms a bit back from the show line that are nice to shoot from, But they get crowded and you just have to stand up there in the sun for a good spot.

Our days typically started in Warbirds at the north end. Spending a bit of time watching landings out by the east west runway is fun.
Then wander through the experimentals, working our way south to be near Vintage for the daily airshow at 2:00PM.
After the airshow we would wander through vintage show planes and back to camp.

After dinner it's time to go to the ultralight field and watch that flying mess...a guy with a parachute, a fan on his back and the dream of flight in his eyes is always fun to watch.

After dark you can go to the theater in the woods or watch a movie in the camp grounds.( which is why camping on site is so much better) ..if you have any energy left over, adult beverages or ibuprofen were usually the last of the day's activities.





Aug 08, 2017 at 08:48 AM
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Zane Adams wrote:
Andrew made me fly the airplane almost the whole time...


Yeah, it's obvious from your expression how much you suffered! I've only ever been in an open cockpit plane once, at the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome many years ago, when they were giving rides in an old mail carrier, I forget what it was.

Erich




Aug 08, 2017 at 09:13 AM
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p.103 #13 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


I am in Bismarck, ND photographing a Falcon 50EX and a Beechjet for a broker that has been contracted to market the two jets for sale.

In between photographing the Falcon's right side, and the left side, Frontier flew in one of the Airbus jets into Bismarck. I only have seen smaller regional jets landing here, since we arrived on a Bombardier Canadair RJ-900 series on American Eagle.

I love photographing jets up here, this morning it was 54 degrees, sure beats 102 degrees in San Antonio a couple of weeks ago.

I hope everyone has a great day!

Off to photograph the Beechjet today.









Aug 08, 2017 at 09:48 AM
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p.103 #14 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Thanks to everyone for info about Oshkosh It partly clashes with Farnborough International down the road from my home, but what the hell! Here's another from Sunday at Shuttleworth







Aug 08, 2017 at 10:44 AM
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p.103 #15 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Hi Bill,

Thanks!! Let me get some images together and put together a concise description of my purpose. Be back to you shortly with all of that. Thanks! Thanks! Thanks!!




Aug 08, 2017 at 11:45 AM
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OK Niall, if you're committing to OSH 2018, then I'm going to block it right now and promise to be there (Good Lord willing). I'll book my room and get Chandler on board. Any chance we could get a gaggle to jump on with us? We could make this an epic MA2A get together, probably the only reason I'd go back (except for large denominations of currency).


Aug 08, 2017 at 11:49 AM
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nrferguson wrote:
Unbelievably, wife has given permission for bro-in-law and me to go to Oshkosh He has two hotels on hold (one 30 min drive away and the other 50 minutes), (deleted)


I would take those drive times with a grain of salt. They maybe accurate times during non-commute hours, or the middle of the night. However, I seriously doubt they are an accurate reflection of the driving time during normal commute hours, or especially when driving to a major event. I suspect that the last mile of the trip may take more time than the hotels stated drive time.

Wi Department of Transportation traffic warning page about Oshkosh, and area road construction projects that will effect travel times....
http://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/about-wisdot/newsroom/news-rel/693-ne.aspx



Aug 08, 2017 at 11:53 AM
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p.103 #18 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


We're at 3 currently - myself, Niall and Niall's brother in law. I'm provisionally booked into the University of Wisconsin dorms.

JWilsonphoto wrote:
OK Niall, if you're committing to OSH 2018, then I'm going to block it right now and promise to be there (Good Lord willing). I'll book my room and get Chandler on board. Any chance we could get a gaggle to jump on with us? We could make this an epic MA2A get together, probably the only reason I'd go back (except for large denominations of currency).




Aug 08, 2017 at 01:00 PM
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p.103 #19 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


I have stayed at The Hilton Garden Inn right on the field and I've also stayed at The Country Inn & Suites in Appleton. The times that I commute to the field are generally no traffic times so it's no big deal. You don't want to be arriving at 10 am, especially on the weekends or you'll be stuck in a mess. Get to the field at 6:30 or so and it's pretty smooth sailing. Appleton is about a 20 minute drive north, toward Green Bay.


Aug 08, 2017 at 01:02 PM
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Yeah bit of advice I've been given is to get there for 6am most days in order to catch the dawn patrol launches as it's the only time some of the participants will fly during the week.


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