p.4 #1 · When is it ok to take pictures in public?
People are too f**king paranoid these days. I'm already starting to weary of people mistrusting and not following through with things and I'm only 18.
Take pictures of your daughter, bugger the lot of them, it's not like you're going to put them on a billboard.
p.4 #3 · When is it ok to take pictures in public?
Well staring down the barrel of a 70-200/2.8 (as opposed to a P&S) can be an awkward experience, so I guess it's understandable that people get worried... though paranoia is going a little too far.
p.4 #4 · When is it ok to take pictures in public?
elliotkramer wrote:
..The government wants us to believe that kids are kidnapped and raped all the time, that pedophiles are everywhere, that terrorists are just around the corner...
Elliot, no offense, but you may be a little mis-guided. Have you ever done an internet pedophile search? You can look them up by zip code. As a parent, I have, and they ARE everywhere. Furthermore, kids ARE kidnapped & raped all the time, and I've had terrorists living in my area too. The fact that you may not recognize the problem, does not make it any less real. One more thing, it's not the government that wants us to believe this, it's people & parents who want to know where these creeps are.
p.4 #5 · When is it ok to take pictures in public?
That is still no reason for a parent not to be allowed to photograph their own child, or grandchild, for that matter. Since pedophiles are the one group who show no ability to be rehabilitated, you can stop that problem by simply keeping them in jail until they go out T.U. Then, when you do your little internet search, the only addresses that come up should be the local penitentiary.
Jul 06, 2007 at 10:22 AM
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p.4 #6 · When is it ok to take pictures in public?
Mmusicman wrote:
Have you ever done an internet pedophile search? You can look them up by zip code. As a parent, I have, and they ARE everywhere. Furthermore, kids ARE kidnapped & raped all the time, and I've had terrorists living in my area too.
My wife is a social worker, and we are well aware of the situation. However, with all due respect, I think you are over reacting a bit. Yes, the people you mention are -Gasp- living amongst us. (They have to live somewhere.) But they are not everywhere. Using that logic would mean that they are in your house too! -Double Gasp, Batman!-
My wife also has a close relationship with the police as she does background checks on people in her case load several times a day, but again, kids are not harmed as you mentioned all the time. The majority of child kidnappings are done by divorced parents in custody battles. http://www.kstp.com/article/stories/S129934.shtml?cat=1
I am not minimizing the problem as it does indeed exist, but to live in such fear is no way to live. There is a difference between being paranoid of everybody and everything that is different from you vs. teaching your kids safe practices around adults they do not personally know. The worst thing a parent can do is place their own personal fears and phobias into their kids and other peoples heads. All that does is give your child a future of becoming a regualr therapy patient when they become adults. The best one can do is observe common sense, live your life, be invested in your own pursuit of happiness, and let the cards fall where they may.
p.4 #7 · When is it ok to take pictures in public?
I am NOT one parent who lives in "fear", although I would agree some do. That however, does not mean I'm going to be stupid either. There are some here who believe that their "legal right" to shoot snapshots of other peoples children outweight the "respect" of a parent asking not to have their children photographed by strangers. There won't be any convincing either side to change views. It's all a matter of what matters to you. Long live the paparazzi!
p.4 #9 · When is it ok to take pictures in public?
just kidding but people do get so silly with me about being truely afraid of being photographed that i want soak em with a fire hose and see if they feel better
oh--my--god, like, why do you have that cameraaaaa
then they have to look at every one and then demand you delete it
and then you are a pervert, a terrorist, a foriegn spy.
there was a post on here a long time ago about the 6.66mp soulstealer--a new camera to be designed to actually suck the souls out of people
p.4 #10 · When is it ok to take pictures in public?
I have to agree with all of the comments on here. I can remember the old patch kids days when me and 25 to 20 friends would leave the house in the morning and come back home at dark. All of this done when we were anywhere from 7 to 15 years old. Modern days make the old school running around non existent.
I have a daughter of 16 and as son of 5. Both of them are house bound. Not because of my choice but because of all of the other parents in the neighborhood. Yes times have gotten rougher and the drugs and crimes are seen out in the open a lot more but, there is the same amount of drugs and crime going on now as there was back then. It is just seen more because of the news and everyone in everyone elses business.
I sit on the fence on this subject. I do believe you can go back to the old days and let our kids run around. They learn a lot from this and they also grow in many different areas because of the independance. But, when my wife gave this little bit of info to me I seem to have changed my thoughts the slightest. I'll let my kids run around he neighborhood, but, I will also make sure there is always an older child or person with them.
Here is the link that my wife gave me. Put your address in and you might be amazed that there are a lot of pedophiles out there and the numbers are amazing. There might even be one living next to you.
p.4 #11 · When is it ok to take pictures in public?
Are there sicko, kinky devils out there preying on kids, or women, or men, or whatever? Yes! Does that mean that it is invasive, or illegal to take pictures of children at play in a public place? No! If I were told that I can't take pictures of children playing in the park, or in a soccer game, or baseball, or football, or swimming I would just have to hang up my camera. The "key" question that has to be asked is whether, or not, I am trying to get a picture of a small child performing in an "unnatural" fashion. There is nothing unnatural about a child playing in the park. It is also clearly established in any number of courts of law that there is nothing illegal about an individual taking pictures in public areas unless it is clearly posted for a valid reason (pictures inside a museum, government buildings, etc.)
If a parent, or any other person for that matter, has a problem with me taking pictures of their child when he/she is playing in the park they have the option of not allowing their child to play there. I often take my grandchildren to playgrounds and take pictures of them, and sometimes other children get into the shot and end up being digitally captured by my lens. I have never had any parent come up to me and object to my photographing their child. If anyone ever did that I would dismiss them by telling them that they really need to get a life. I have no knowledge of exactly how child pornographers go about getting the material that they use for their perverted purposes, but I am pretty sure that they have enough sense to get that material in private settings, as opposed to a public forum under the eyes of others. The manager of the swimming facilities should clearly post a notice that no one can take pictures. Otherwise he has no one but himself to blame if someone with a camera is using it.
If I found myself being confronted by someone with their minds in the gutter I would encourage them to notify the police about what I am doing and see if it is illegal. If you are a pervert, lurking in the shadows, taking pictures of children swinging and using the monkey bars, shame on you! If you are a loving parent trying to document important milestones in the life of your child, keep you finger on the shutter release and fire away because believe me there is no district attorney in the world who would try to prosecute you for that.
p.4 #12 · When is it ok to take pictures in public?
Be careful with this kind of thing. Many pools, public or not, do not allow unauthorized photographs from the deck, regardless of the situation. If it is obvious that you are shooting your child only, then you can most likely do this. But if it looks like you are photographing other people's kids, then you can expect trouble, especially at pools. I do a lot of professional photography at swim meets and it can get dicey even when I have permission. Parents are touchy and you should be very cautious...you don't want the kind of trouble that may result even from mis-understandings. And BTW, it is perfectly legal for any public place to put restrictions on photography on that property...it happens all the time, especially pools and other sporting venues.
