Jeff wrote:
My initial thought was to delete your post out of my own selfish interests...
(You didn't really have to say this in public, did you?)
I have the same selfish interest in the lower price. ;-)
But if we are to judge reality, Canon's likely thinking doesn't seem either hard to decipher or unreasonable:
1. Announce a "winner" highly-refined camera at a VERY tempting "tentative" price.(thus stirring the interest-discussion pot).
2.Use the tentative-ness of the first-announced price, along with 'similar to the cost of the preceeding model' phrasing to prepare would-be purchasers for an "actual" price of $4500, "similar" to the 1DIIN' intro price (but still a greater value, because of new features/improvements,...seemingly still not unreasonable).
3. Note the response on the web,..including the high-interest on most forums, and particularly of the main target group (Sports Shooters).
4.Learn that the main competition has brought NOTHING to the fight,...thus leaving the door wide open. (Shame on you Nikon,...for letting us Canon people down ;-)
5. Announce a "finalized" price of as much as $5000, thus encouraging sales of remaining on-shelf 1DIIN models, while selling enough $5000 new models to must-have buyers(pros/early-adopter well-offs) to utilize your production capabilities during the initial buying "rush".
6. Adjust price downward to and then below the "reasonable" $4500 price to maintain demand levels through the camera's model-lifetime.
7. Introduce the "S" model III to the clamoring "studio/landscape pros" in Canon's time frame, using the same pricing tactics with the "S" group of buyers.
I don't have time to read this massive thread, but has anyone mentioned the volatile currency market as a U.S. price driver? In the last few days the U.S. Dollar has strengthened against the Yen, but it was the other way around a couple of weeks ago. This is a major consideration when pricing products to be sold on the international market.
Yes, the initial price will be high as R&D costs must be repaid, but I'm not so sure that pure greed on the part of Canon is the driver here.
Besides, if you are a working pro and need this camera, you are going to buy it and pay for it in your own pricing structure.
On the topic of the LP-E4 Battery pack for the 1DmkIII, my local dealer seemed to have "firm" Canon price information, and have set their price at $125 for my pre-order of my spare battery. That will indeed be nice compared to the previous 1D battery.
Another new feature of the battery system is that the standard charger that comes with the 1DmkIII can be powered from AC with the adapter that comes with it, but also can be powered by 12 volt DC using the CB-570 car battery cable. That happens to be an important feature for my needs.
jmaio wrote:
I don't have time to read this massive thread, but has anyone mentioned the volatile currency market as a U.S. price driver? In the last few days the U.S. Dollar has strengthened against the Yen, but it was the other way around a couple of weeks ago. This is a major consideration when pricing products to be sold on the international market.
Yes, the initial price will be high as R&D costs must be repaid, but I'm not so sure that pure greed on the part of Canon is the driver here.
Besides, if you are a working pro and need this camera, you are going to buy it and pay for it in your own pricing structure. ...Show more →
Generally Canon has held prices steady, even with the weak US dollar. But with Nikon not announcing a pro camera, and Sony coming out with a mock up of some future "high consumer" model, I'm sure Canon is reevaluating their pricing rationalization.
I just can't believe Sony showed up at PMA with such a half-ass "product". So much for pushing Canon.
The dollar and the yen have been dancing withing a few percentage points over the last couple of weeks. Not enough to affect pricing structures; too small, too volatile to bother; 115/119, at our level, who cares?
Maybe I'm the first to say it, but I think it's a bit much. Try using that at a wedding and watch everyone duck in fear. Even with sports, you should be able to nail a shot in 8 frames or less. I am curious about it's DR and ISO abilities.
call me stupid. What's that bulbous thing sticking on the side? looks like it goes where the memory card slot goes?
[EDIT] nevermind it's the wifi transmitter
I can see it being useful for some wedding instances. You don't HAVE to shoot at 10fps. But having the capabilities sure wouldn't hurt. The placement of the cross-type AF points would be insanely valuable for weddings.
jfulton wrote:
Maybe I'm the first to say it, but I think it's a bit much. Try using that at a wedding and watch everyone duck in fear. Even with sports, you should be able to nail a shot in 8 frames or less. I am curious about it's DR and ISO abilities.
Ya, the first and the last.
It is a professional sports photographers camera.
I've you keep on shooting like that, with little discipline, apart from the workflow you'll reach the limits of your shutter's life pretty quickly...like after a month of use
