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p.54 #1 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


So the first thing you can see when you enter PMA is Canons new range of printers and high quality papers, copiers, and a nice big section for their new Point-and-Shoots digitals cameras. Lets not forget their highly anticipated range of high definition video cameras.



Feb 04, 2007 at 07:11 AM
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p.54 #2 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


nikt wrote:
So the first thing you can see when you enter PMA is Canons new range of printers and high quality papers, copiers, and a nice big section for their new Point-and-Shoots digitals cameras. Lets not forget their highly anticipated range of high definition video cameras.

Nik - I Soooooooo hope that is only part of the story :-)

After a disappointing Photokina 2006 (from a Canon DSLR perspective) it is almost unthinkable for there to be two major shows in a row with nothing...

I hope that by early March you are hating your lying Canon rep for misleading you



Feb 04, 2007 at 07:50 AM
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p.54 #3 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


dinoadventures wrote:
I assume it'll do it the same way the 1N RS did.
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/eos/EOS-1nRS/index.htm


Didn't read the link, but for the record: it didn't.

Had one for years. Fantastic camera, certainly has a palce in digi-land I reckon.



Feb 04, 2007 at 07:54 AM
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p.54 #4 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


beewee wrote:
I'm pretty sure that's doable with the 250 band hyperspectral full frame 80MP sensor that Canon is developing for the 1Ds Mk4NRS II.

I just hope they don't forget about the mm accuracy differential GPS receiver with inertial measurement unit and the L1/L2/L5 and GLONASS compatible GPS antenna that mounts on the hotshoe.


I'm preparing a new rack mount server setup to handle all the data as we speak.



Feb 04, 2007 at 09:52 AM
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p.54 #5 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


On a more serious note, I think a simple onboard GPS reciever (eg. the soul of a Garmin Etrex) would fill in the other three out of four dimensions. It could record WGS84 XYZ coords of each shot. Only issues could be that you'll have to wait for a satellite lock, and your batteries will run out sooner. Turn it on or off in the setup menu at your discretion.

You could link your photo library to ArcGIS, Mapinfo or Google Earth KML. Adobe might incorporate a geographic selection tool into Lightroom.

This could be done in a separate battery grip as a trial. It's not rocket science: the satellites are already in orbit.



Feb 04, 2007 at 10:04 AM
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p.54 #6 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Just give us a standard GPS interface. I'll supply the GPS. The only suitable handheld GPS for hikers in heavy cover is the Garmin 60CSx. This interface is so simple "even a caveman could do it". Too bad Canon doesen't listen.


Feb 04, 2007 at 11:40 AM
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p.54 #7 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


What is so important about GPS? (sorry for the naivety of the question) It seems like some people really want it, and I really (from my own perspective) can see no purpose to it, other than creating more data.


Feb 04, 2007 at 12:03 PM
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p.54 #8 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Geoff Costello wrote:
Nik - I Soooooooo hope that is only part of the story :-)

After a disappointing Photokina 2006 (from a Canon DSLR perspective) it is almost unthinkable for there to be two major shows in a row with nothing...

I hope that by early March you are hating your lying Canon rep for misleading you

Both of you do not have to wait until PMA 2007 to see what Canon has in store for us - that trade show is just a venue for the first public viewing of the latest EOS-related items - those that are not able to visit it can read about the specs and drool over the images of any new EOS DSLR from most of Canon's own websites dedicated to the new products, at about the same time as the show or a few days earlier - March 1.



Feb 04, 2007 at 12:21 PM
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p.54 #9 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


GPS?

Again?

It looks like this thread could use some GPS 'cause it's goin' in circles.




Feb 04, 2007 at 12:32 PM
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lordcarl wrote:
... those that are not able to visit it can read about the specs and drool over the images of any new EOS DSLR from most of Canon's own websites dedicated to the new products, at about the same time as the show or a few days earlier - March 1.


Regarding Canon DSLRs, I haven't drooled in years actually. Sure would be nice to have something new and interesting, instead of boring stuff like the XT/XTi, 30d, etc. Even the 5d didn't make me drool, I need a new 1 series.



Feb 04, 2007 at 12:43 PM
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p.54 #11 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


I saw the 30D on Clearance at a store recently. That should tell us something.


Feb 04, 2007 at 01:44 PM
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scott f wrote:
What is so important about GPS? (sorry for the naivety of the question) It seems like some people really want it, and I really (from my own perspective) can see no purpose to it, other than creating more data.


Go to Antarctica and then figure out how far apart two pictures were taken. GPS is your only hope; there's no maps, no landmarks...

But I agree: this has been discussed alread ad nauseam around page 40, so check there



Feb 04, 2007 at 03:16 PM
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p.54 #13 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


P Geusebroek wrote:
I saw the 30D on Clearance at a store recently. That should tell us something.


There is no way Canona re going to be happy that Nikon are now selling more than them in Japan - and the competition at entry and mid-level is now intense with Sony and Pentax putting out cameras whaih are arguably better specced than the big boys.
Canon must and will be putting out new camera to compete.
Regards,
DaveMart



Feb 04, 2007 at 03:17 PM
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p.54 #14 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


GPS SchmeePS..... Give me good old fashioned death ray. It could be used for bossy uncooperative in-laws at weddings, You know the type. In fact, family reunions could benefit as well. So go on, tell me a silly GPS would be better, and more versatile than a death ray

OTOH, I'll bet battery life would take a hit. Better stock up on those



Feb 04, 2007 at 03:25 PM
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scott f wrote:
What is so important about GPS? (sorry for the naivety of the question) It seems like some people really want it, and I really (from my own perspective) can see no purpose to it, other than creating more data.


Not sure if anyone's played around with Microsoft Photosynth, it does image analysis on a set of pictures and calculates the orientation of the camera of each image relative to each other and generates a way to view and transition from image to image spatially.

The problem is that the camera orientation of images is referenced relative to each other and there are no absolute orientation/positions. With a gps, you can know the exact position of the shots as well.

This is similar to remote sensing / photogrametric software that allows you to build 3D models from spatially referenced image data sets. so just imagine being able to take pictures of the Grand Canyon and then being able to fly through it virtually on your computer when you get home.



Feb 04, 2007 at 03:32 PM
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p.54 #16 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


P Geusebroek wrote:
I saw the 30D on Clearance at a store recently. That should tell us something.

Surely, if stores really knew the 30D was going to be discontinued, then we'd all know by now?



Feb 04, 2007 at 03:36 PM
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p.54 #17 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Go to Antarctica and then figure out how far apart two pictures were taken. GPS is your only hope; there's no maps, no landmarks...


Google Earth satellite photos and map template overlays of the earth has allowed me to later pinpoint objects in my shots. But you do need at least some terrain features or landmarks for frame of reference.

Actually it's an amazing program.



Feb 04, 2007 at 03:57 PM
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stanj wrote:
Go to Antarctica and then figure out how far apart two pictures were taken. GPS is your only hope; there's no maps, no landmarks...

But I agree: this has been discussed alread ad nauseam around page 40, so check there


All due respect, but nobody crafts their mass-market products around the special challenges presented by Antarctic expeditions. You might also need GPS if you were sailing your schooner across the Pacific by yourself, or trekking the ice flows in the Arctic Circle, but putting a GPS in a camera specifically for those incredibly extreme circumstances would be silly of Canon. People who shoot in the Himalayas might not be able to understand why there's no altimeter on the camera, or a depth gauge for deep-sea photographers, or a thermometer for volcanologists to ensure they don't exceed maximum temperature requirements singular to their highly-specialized needs, or maximization for use in zero-gravity on the off chance one of the few dozen existing astronauts wants to carry a Canon to the ISS, etc., etc., etc. This is why those professionals have accessory equipment vital to the success of their mission: they don't expect camera manufacturers to fulfill basic equipment requirements for them.

The best argument I have seen yet was for those on vacation who visit multiple burgs in unfamiliar countries in a short time, but the narrowly-defined needs of an Antarctic explorer do not translate into a necessity for the vast majority of shooters, for whom Canon engineers their equipment. What percentage of professional photographers EVER visit Antarctica? I'm guessing somewhere below one.



Feb 04, 2007 at 05:18 PM
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p.54 #19 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Adding the GPS interface is a very simple firmware revision. Most people who need a GPS already have one. All we want is the interface to write lat/lon into the EXIF. This should be a "no-brainer"!!


Feb 04, 2007 at 05:23 PM
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p.54 #20 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


For those who can't see the use of GPS I understand their frustration with those who wish it. Those of us who need it, can't understand why the standard interface which is very simple, and even is standard in some of the Richo cameras and probably wouldn't cost over $5.00 even at Canons bloated prices can't be added. Probably the same reason that Canon won't listem about the mirror lockup being placed on the @#@@*() useless print switch.

Edited by Paul Gardner on Feb 04, 2007 at 02:32 PM GMT



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