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p.23 #1 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


has anyone actually mentioned the term PMA on this thread? haha

Thread should be renamed to " 'Un-Official' pre-PMA BS over Coffee Thread "




Jan 21, 2007 at 06:47 PM
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p.23 #2 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Without seeming disrespectful, if I start reading that now, it will be March before I know it!

Anyway, after a weekend spent shooting at the world wildlife trust, in rubbish weather, but still, I was out, whatever comes up in March, if I need it, I will buy it. :-) So a high MP FF 1D whatever plus the new 100-400 L it is then!



Jan 21, 2007 at 06:51 PM
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p.23 #3 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


What's PMA?

I thought this was a Canon request forum...



Jan 21, 2007 at 06:56 PM
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p.23 #4 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Hey, it is all pre-PMA, right? :-)


Jan 21, 2007 at 07:10 PM
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p.23 #5 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


It seems to me in years past that there were leaks by now. Makes me wonder if there is anything to leak this year.


Jan 21, 2007 at 07:13 PM
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p.23 #6 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


The Spanish Caborian site is not giving up on the 200 f/1.8 IS.(he he)
Well, if they do not introduce the lens this March, I shall finally get miself the 200 f/2.0 VR, I swear. Do you hear me Canon ? And then you gonna be sorry !



Jan 21, 2007 at 07:20 PM
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p.23 #7 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


RikWriter wrote:
It seems to me in years past that there were leaks by now. Makes me wonder if there is anything to leak this year.


PMA isn't until early March this year, so we could still have something leak out. Personally, I'm not holding my breath for anything right now. Canon seems to have slipped a gear as of late.

Here's hoping I'm wrong.



Jan 21, 2007 at 07:26 PM
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p.23 #8 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


How many people carry the notepad? Only the ones who are truely concerned about about data like location and etc. Besides, don't the 1 series have a voice notation feature? Again, there are so many places that a GPS might not work that its not worth putting in.

If the mega pixel wall has been hit, and camera makers have to start adding features that don't have anything to do with improving photography (like GPS, wiper fluid dispenser, cel phone, cup holders and etc) to keep selling prducts, I've purchased my last camera body.


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A - You'd still need to reconcile which pictures correspond to your GPS waypoint. That's potentially time consuming.
B - MOST people don't carry a GPS with them...

And my argument about holidays etc is quite relevant. It's primary purpose is to add value to a camera body - not save your neck if you go trecking. Simply linking into an online database saves loads of agro for my money. And the argument about carrying a notepad is pretty poor. How many people (in the real world) carry a notepad and jot down the images number, data/time and their current location?
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Jan 21, 2007 at 07:30 PM
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p.23 #9 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


How is spreading rumors, lies, leaks and disinformation a good thing? It just encourages more of the same irresponsible behaviour.

EB



Jan 21, 2007 at 07:37 PM
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p.23 #10 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Nowhere Man wrote:
has anyone actually mentioned the term PMA on this thread? haha


You must be new here PMA is sort of like PMS for guys here. Everyone gets b*tchy, their's is the only correct opinion (i.e. it's stupid for a camera not to have GPS, or it's stupid for a camera to have GPS), and some of us can't wait until it is over so the b*tching will stop



Jan 21, 2007 at 07:39 PM
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EB-1 wrote:
How is spreading rumors, lies, leaks and disinformation a good thing? It just encourages more of the same irresponsible behaviour.

EB

well i try to filter through the crap, but i do find alot of the info very interesting.
for me because i want this camera so bad any info out there about it, be it rumor, speculation ,leaks ect i find interesting as well as others too.



Jan 21, 2007 at 07:47 PM
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p.23 #12 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


My particular experience why I want GPS is my trip to Antarctica. You go and find me a good map of it. What will you do with all the pictures taken on the ship? For instance, it may be interesting to see how far apart two pictures were taken. It may be easy to find this out if you take a picture of a hotel in Vegas and the next one of the Hoover Dam, but if it's one ice berg and another one, tough luck.

This is the reason why for my 2003 trip to Antarctica I wrote a program that does just that - mate handheld GPS data to my image library. Still, now I need to download the GPS data every day or so, make sure my camera clock is in sync with the GPS time, and make sure that I don't screw up somewhere on the way. If it wasn't for this custom software that mates any random picture to my file full of coordinates, I'd have no clue where something was taken. I'd sure rather have it be all automatic. We have heated and cooled seats in our cars, why not friggin' GPS in the camera.



Jan 21, 2007 at 08:04 PM
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p.23 #13 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Hey Hammerli,

The kvetching never stops...... Once PMA (am I allowed to say that?) is over, the topics will change to how built in GPS negates lens based IS when used south of the equator, and how this spells the end of Canon unless they release a Combined 1D body with variable crop sensor and fuzzy logic that doubles as an engine trouble light reader and thermodynamicentropy monitor built in to the new 16:9 widescreen LCD that is also wirelessly connected to your new iPod+video so you can at least stream movies from your home computer cause you are lost south of the equator due to the non functioning GPS that didn't play well with the 2 new direct print buttons that give auto output in case of a lens based IS failure due to bad variocrop data from the new 2.5gigapixel bayerfoveon cmos buzzword generator, which co-incidentally is incompatable with the thermodynamicentropy monitor and the cup holder v2.0 rev 1 software feature also connected to the IS/GPS circuit that is on the auxillary micro XDHD card reader

BTW, I love my GPS and wouldn't mind if it would connect and send data to a body. Just don't build it into my camera. please. It wouldn't improve my photography, and would be seriously deficient compared to my real separate GPS unit and laptop.

Hammerli wrote:
You must be new here PMA is sort of like PMS for guys here. Everyone gets b*tchy, their's is the only correct opinion (i.e. it's stupid for a camera not to have GPS, or it's stupid for a camera to have GPS), and some of us can't wait until it is over so the b*tching will stop




Jan 21, 2007 at 08:14 PM
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Nowhere Man wrote:
Imagine uploading your photos to a database that had a world map. It would be possible to link all of the images to the areas of the map where they were taken, simply by reading the GPS info.

That would be a very cool interactive feature that I'm sure some 'dot com' is very much waiting to take advantage of and make millions. Sort of like a google earth, but with photos.



Google earth has now already done this.



Jan 21, 2007 at 08:18 PM
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Nowhere Man wrote:
Imagine uploading your photos to a database that had a world map. It would be possible to link all of the images to the areas of the map where they were taken, simply by reading the GPS info.

That would be a very cool interactive feature that I'm sure some 'dot com' is very much waiting to take advantage of and make millions. Sort of like a google earth, but with photos.


http://www.wwmx.org/WebClient.aspx



Jan 21, 2007 at 08:36 PM
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p.23 #16 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


GPS is nice, but I think most would prefer a built-in wireless flash trigger first. A new MT-34EX wirelss flash macro setup would be welcome.


Jan 21, 2007 at 08:44 PM
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p.23 #17 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Pixel Perfect wrote:
GPS is nice, but I think most would prefer a built-in wireless flash trigger first. A new MT-34EX wirelss flash macro setup would be welcome.


Agreed, while I might occasionally use a GPS system when on vacation, as a general rule I could do without, and certainly do not want to have to pay for it. On the other hand, I would be glad to pay extra for a wireless flash trigger and a built-in wireless receiver for a remote so I could get rid of my hulking LC-5 (assuming better range than the useless Rebel series unit.)



Jan 21, 2007 at 09:02 PM
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p.23 #18 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


stanj wrote:
My particular experience why I want GPS is my trip to Antarctica. You go and find me a good map of it. What will you do with all the pictures taken on the ship? For instance, it may be interesting to see how far apart two pictures were taken. It may be easy to find this out if you take a picture of a hotel in Vegas and the next one of the Hoover Dam, but if it's one ice berg and another one, tough luck.

This is the reason why for my 2003 trip to Antarctica I wrote a program
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I'm curious as to how many GPS satellites you were able to track while in antarctica as the performance and number of GPS satellites that are visible are much lower than in the mid latitudes due to inclination of the GPS satellite orbit. Just from a quick calculations, GPS satellites at the south pole will only reach as high as 49 degrees from the horizon. Also, most if not all GPS receivers will filter out satellites below 15 degrees from the horizon due to poor radio signal travelling throught the ionosphere.

I'm thinking, you'll get 5 to 6 satelites at most depending on your latitude and time of day.



Jan 21, 2007 at 09:09 PM
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Wow...whoever said "PMS club" nailed it. You folks are cracking me up!! Page 57 and everyone's handwringing about GPS...too funny. Now, if Canon would put a decent email client in the next camera body so we had a real USE for wireless in a camera....now that would be cool!!

As long as this is the GPS forum, you might take a look at how TripTracker has implemented mapping for photos. Very very cool (e.g., http://triptracker.net/trip/263/map/ )! This implementation isn't "it" yet...but it's much closer than smugmug and most other photo sites. Instead of a cluttered list of "pushpins", you get a great trip route overview mapped out, and you can click on a location for a fast visit to an annotated gallery of photos. That would put some nice geographic relevance on family vacations! Oh yeah...and you could also use the data to return to the site at which you photographed that memorable bug in the hopes of seeing it again...ha ha ha!!

RoboGEO (http://www.robogeo.com/home/system.asp) can embed external GPS (or manually entered, or "pick from a map" etc) into RAW or JPG images, and even allows linking digital audio files to EXIF data - how cool would it be when viewing a photo online to be able to click to a link and listen to field notes, or a description of the special circumstances regarding the photo?

Canon could easily and cheaply provide the GPS chip, and writing the data to EXIF for RAW or JPGS isn't exactly as complicated as "eye control", "face recognition" or other software R&D that actually took awhile. Or, they could just skip providing an application and make you buy RoboGeo to extract the GPS data and write it to the RAW or JPG files....it costs a whole $29 bucks or so at retail and won't make anyone skip their next "L" lens purchase.

Meanwhile...my trusty 10D really wants to be upgraded, and I hope Canon comes out with a 5D-II or such sooner than later!!

Can't wait to hear of any rumors...say....did you hear that Canon cameras will all feature thermometers to help advise the photographer what to wear??

Be seeing you,
The Duck



Jan 21, 2007 at 09:45 PM
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p.23 #20 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Hey Duck, don't sweat the PMS club. We are all just whistling in the dark and passing time since there are absolutely no rumors or leaks. What is the saying, 'the silence is deafening' In years past, there was usually something to go on. All we have seen here is some swag speculation, and some well thought out logical reasoning based on past Canon release behavior. I think we are all in fear that PMA will yeild nothing big, and we may have to wait until later in the year. Oh well, there is still the hope that something will come from Canon a week to 10 days before the show, or maybe at the SuperBowl. Its hard to imagine Canon not wanting to have new products and lots of press for their 70th, and the EOS systems' 20th


Jan 21, 2007 at 09:58 PM
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