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p.137 #1 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


crivera wrote:
This is what I know from a friend from Canon.
1D MkIII 10mp, 10fps, 3" LIVE LCD, the 40D 10MP, 5fps, 3"LCD. the 1ds MkII replacement in the fall with 22 MP and the 5D next year.
A new 16 - 35 mm F2.8 lens is coming to take care of the new 22 MP camera.



Well, you had me until the "live preview" on the 1Dm3. Highly unlikely, IMHO.



Feb 21, 2007 at 10:54 AM
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p.137 #2 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Maybe they'll make the new 16-35L be at least as good as the Nikon version.


Feb 21, 2007 at 11:01 AM
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p.137 #3 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


[timbop wrote:
Well, you had me until the "live preview" on the 1Dm3. Highly unlikely, IMHO.


For PJ work I think live preview would be extremely useful and desirable when holding the camera away from the eye.




Feb 21, 2007 at 11:03 AM
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p.137 #4 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


I'm not sure anyone really doubts that live preview could be useful in some situations... I think the doubts come from trying to understand how it would be accomplished in a DSLR.


Feb 21, 2007 at 11:06 AM
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p.137 #5 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


The 1D will be what large news gathering companies in affluent countries want. If there is live LCD, the interesting question is 'how?'.


Feb 21, 2007 at 11:10 AM
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p.137 #6 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


DynoMoHum wrote:
I'm not sure anyone really doubts that live preview could be useful in some situations... I think the doubts come from trying to understand how it would be accomplished in a DSLR.


Exactly.



Feb 21, 2007 at 11:10 AM
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p.137 #7 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


dcmiller wrote:
The 1D will be what large news gathering companies in affluent countries want. If there is live LCD, the interesting question is 'how?'.


I'd guess the same way Canon did it with the Astro version of the 20D...the 20Da. Locks the mirror up and opens the shutter, disabling the viewfinder.

Rick



Feb 21, 2007 at 11:16 AM
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p.137 #8 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


A pop up sensor in the focus box behind the mirror. :-)



Edited by mhecker on Feb 21, 2007 at 09:18 AM GMT (Reason: error)



Feb 21, 2007 at 11:16 AM
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p.137 #9 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


40D with only Digic II processor? I would hope they would step up to the Digic III.


Feb 21, 2007 at 11:17 AM
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p.137 #10 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


OK... then if it's that easy... and has already been done... then why isn't this option already available in models newer then the 20D?

Rick Krejci wrote:
I'd guess the same way Canon did it with the Astro version of the 20D...the 20Da. Locks the mirror up and opens the shutter, disabling the viewfinder.

Rick




Feb 21, 2007 at 11:20 AM
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Rick Krejci wrote:
I'd guess the same way Canon did it with the Astro version of the 20D...the 20Da. Locks the mirror up and opens the shutter, disabling the viewfinder.

Rick


The solution will be more elegant than that. I'm confident it will have an optical TTL viewfinder, beyond that I have no idea. The SLR part doesn't matter. The TTL does.



Feb 21, 2007 at 11:21 AM
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p.137 #12 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


dcmiller wrote:
The 1D will be what large news gathering companies in affluent countries want. If there is live LCD, the interesting question is 'how?'.

I'd guess the same way Canon did it with the Astro version of the 20D...the 20Da. Locks the mirror up and opens the shutter, disabling the viewfinder.




That would work, the other option is to add another sensor (yuck).


Vann



Feb 21, 2007 at 11:22 AM
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DynoMoHum wrote:
OK... then if it's that easy... and has already been done... then why isn't this option already available in models newer then the 20D?


They didn't feel like releasing or weren't ready to release it on a general use camera yet? Nobody thought of putting it on a more general use camera before? They just ramped up to do it on a larger scale than for specialized cameras? Maybe there were some engineering issues regarding clearing the sensor to be worked out?

Could be anything.

It'd still be a very nice feature in a crowded press conference or at events. Especially with a single press toggle to lockup/release the mirror.



Edited by RJJR on Feb 21, 2007 at 11:33 AM GMT



Feb 21, 2007 at 11:28 AM
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p.137 #14 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Was Sony announcing it's new video/still sensor coincidence?


Feb 21, 2007 at 11:29 AM
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p.137 #15 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


If the 40D is as incremental as stated: adding 2 MP, spot metering and anti-dust, then it's a $1299 camera. I would hope for improvements in AF and DR, or else it's sliding more towards the Rebel category rather than challenging the D200. If they do this, I sure hope they either drop the price of the 5D substantially (like, by a grand) or introduce a newer, less pricey variant.


Feb 21, 2007 at 11:32 AM
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p.137 #16 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


If it has video option, I predict it will be off the main sensor. It will bin groups of pixels and probably have a couple of different output formats. It will shoot stills while shooting video, like the sony sensor.


Feb 21, 2007 at 11:33 AM
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p.137 #17 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


crivera wrote:
This is what I know from a friend from Canon.
1D MkIII 10mp, 10fps, 3" LIVE LCD, the 40D 10MP, 5fps, 3"LCD. the 1ds MkII replacement in the fall with 22 MP and the 5D next year.
A new 16 - 35 mm F2.8 lens is coming to take care of the new 22 MP camera.


i hope you're right.

i'd like to put off my 1DsIII lust as long as possible.

if the 16-35mm were sharp corner-to-corner and i had a body with an extra stop of ISO over the 5D, i'd definitely trade in my 35L for a 16-35 2.8L II. i don't care for shallow DOF with WA lenses. even though i'm prime-only right now, a zoom in that range would be quite useful and avoid having to also buy something around 20mm.



Feb 21, 2007 at 11:33 AM
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p.137 #18 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


I can see that working during long exposures like astrophotography. I don't know how it works specifically but it sounds like a live preview of the actual exposure being taken. You hit the shutter release and the mirror flips and the 1st curtain opens. But what about during framing of the shot during normal daylight? If the shutter and 1st curtain are open already how do you set exposure? What happens when you hit the shutter? Does the 1st curtain close and then reopen followed by the 2nd curtain? What happens if you want to take a burst of 5 or 10 frames? Are they really going to monkey with something like this on their high end camera?


Feb 21, 2007 at 11:34 AM
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p.137 #19 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Lets keep going and we will reach the 400 till tomorrow :-P Or at least tomorrow we will break it.


Feb 21, 2007 at 11:43 AM
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p.137 #20 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


timbop wrote:
I can see that working during long exposures like astrophotography. I don't know how it works specifically but it sounds like a live preview of the actual exposure being taken. You hit the shutter release and the mirror flips and the 1st curtain opens. But what about during framing of the shot during normal daylight? If the shutter and 1st curtain are open already how do you set exposure? What happens when you hit the shutter? Does the 1st curtain close and then reopen followed by the 2nd curtain? What happens if you want to take a burst of 5
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Could be a totally different implementation without a mechanical shutter, or mirrors or even (shudder) without an direct view optical viewfinder. In other words, not the traditional SLR box style thinking.





Feb 21, 2007 at 11:45 AM
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