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p.6 #1 · Kodak 14n First Impressions


Well, let me count the ways that this firmware makes the Photos review instantly obsolete...


Apr 01, 2003 at 02:02 AM
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p.6 #2 · Kodak 14n First Impressions


Gabriel, welcome to the forum. Good to have you here.


Apr 01, 2003 at 02:37 AM
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p.6 #3 · Kodak 14n First Impressions


Jay,
Glad to see you are back and responding to some of the "noise" on the other forums out there. A couple of thoughts and questions:

1. Please get the supply chain filled with product, I am waiting for my 14n. When more photgraphers have direct experience with the camera, speculation will go down dramatically on many forums.
2. Kodak might consider buying the company which makes "Neatimage" and similar companies which advance digital image processing. The digital image space (aka camera space) will be won by the company with the best software. Hardware always becomes commodity.
3. Post "best practices". Some of these are coming out from reviewers who are learning how to get the most out of the camera. The 14n is a system and optimum results are achieved from knowing how to use it best. Flexibility can lead to mis-use. For example, althought I do not have my camera yet, I suspect that many of the concerns about batery life would be resolved if people knew not to turn the camera on and off so much. Computers, the 14n is one, comsume significant power starting up. Is it better to leave the camera on between shots over the course of a few hours rather than turning the camera on and off?

thanks


Edited by John Hill on Apr 02, 2003 at 01:58 PM GMT

Edited by John Hill on Apr 02, 2003 at 01:59 PM GMT



Apr 01, 2003 at 06:49 PM
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p.6 #4 · Kodak 14n First Impressions


>Uwe, can you fill me in on why Phase One wouldn't process 14n RAW files?

Currently their main target market is Nikon and Canon.

Uwe



Apr 01, 2003 at 08:03 PM
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p.6 #5 · Kodak 14n First Impressions


Charlotte:

For now, PhaseOne only makes RAW converter software that is compatible with RAW images producec by certain Canon and Nikon cameras.

Apparently, in future, they will make a version that is compatible with RAW files produced by the Pro 14n.

Peter



Apr 02, 2003 at 02:07 PM
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p.6 #6 · Kodak 14n First Impressions


Thanks Charlotte, I'm looking forward to learning much from those here.


Apr 03, 2003 at 01:32 AM
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p.6 #7 · Kodak 14n First Impressions


SEE SAMPLE IMAGES, NOW POSTED AT See http://207.148.231.204

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OK, I have tried the Neat Image noise reduction software on high ISO images http://www.neatimage.com/howto.html

It works well at reducing noise, especially useful in ISO 800 images. (Frankly, the noise level in my ISO 400 RAW images is not bad, even in low light situations.)

The Neat Image software is very versatile with numerous setting options, but you need to do a lot of experimenting to get just the right effect. Default settings are ok as a start.

The software is very, very slow with huge image files. Still, it does have a batch processing option. (You can find a Review of Neat Image at http://www.michaelalmond.com/Articles/noise.htm ) AND at http://www.outbackphoto.com/workflow/wf_10/essay.html - a Review written by Paul Caldwell. (Thanks for that info, Paul.)

I'll post a sample image on a Web page by Saturday evening -- thanks to Gabriel who is doing that for me, on his Web site. With and without application of Neat Image.

Peter Burian



Edited by Peter Burian on Apr 05, 2003 at 01:40 PM GMT (Reason: added link to posted images )



Apr 04, 2003 at 09:34 AM
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p.6 #8 · Kodak 14n First Impressions


THere is also a very detailed review on Neatimage, at www.outbackphoto.com

Paul



Apr 04, 2003 at 12:50 PM
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p.6 #9 · Kodak 14n First Impressions


Ok, Gabriel has kindly posted some of my Pro 14n images on a Web page as VERY large JPEG's. For close examination.

Including one made at ISO 400 in low light/deep shade. (red truck)

And a crop from that image for closer examination.

AND then a crop after application of Neat Image noise reduction software.

See http://207.148.231.204/

Also a huge JPEG crop from my ISO 100 image (Chinatown) for closer examination.

Peter Burian



Apr 05, 2003 at 08:38 AM
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