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When is the new Sony A7C III coming out?

  
 
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p.3 #1 · When is the new Sony A7C III coming out?


chiron wrote:
Yes, but at the cost of dynamic range, resolution (in the case of the A7CR), and, most importantly, at the cost of a very significant difference in size and weight. The A9III is a great camera for the right user, but it is not an A7Rxx.


Having shot with the A1, A9 III, and various A7R bodies, I have a few thoughts.

Yes the A9iii is not an A7Rxx, but the weight difference is not as much as you make it out to be. In fact the A7RVI is somewhat heavier than the A9iii!

Dynamic range

The A9 III's dynamic range disadvantage is most pronounced at ISO 100, simply because it doesn't offer a native ISO 100 setting. At higher ISOs, the gap narrows considerably. In my experience, at ISO 250 and again at ISO 800 and above (the A9 III's second base ISO), I see little practical difference in dynamic range between the A9 III and A1. Ultimately, how much this matters depends on what you're shooting.

Resolution

The same applies to resolution. In my testing with the 70–200mm GM II, the difference in resolved detail was roughly equivalent to a 10% change in focal length. In other words, an A1 shot at 70mm, f/2.8 produced comparable detail to an A9 III shot at approximately 77mm, f/2.8.

This comparison was conducted at base ISO, and I would expect the gap to narrow further at higher ISOs as noise becomes a greater limiting factor.

Of course, lens performance also plays a role. With a GM prime stopped down to around f/2.8–f/4, where sharpness is typically near its peak, I would expect the resolution advantage of the A1 to become more apparent than in my zoom lens test. But that assumes there's enough light on the subject to stop down while remaining at the first base ISO.

If ISO has to be increased to achieve optimal lens sharpness, some of that sharpness is destroyed by the increased noise so it may be ultimately counter productive

Flash photography

Ironically, in real-world photography, the A9 III may actually have an advantage by allowing you to shoot at more favorable apertures.

Thanks to its global shutter, the A9 III can synchronize a speedlight at very high shutter speeds without the enormous loss of effective flash output associated with HSS. With the F46RMA, the advantage is about 4.5 stops, making the same speedlight substantially more effective on the A9 III.

To put that into perspective, 4.5 stops represents roughly 23 times the effective flash output. In terms of energy, that's the difference between 75 Ws and approximately 1,700 Ws.

For example, if f/2.8 is the sharpest aperture on my prime, I can shoot at f/2.8 on the A9 III and use a fast shutter speed to control ambient exposure.

On an A7R body, the same speedlight simply doesn't have enough power to achieve this in HSS. The alternative is to stop down to f/11–f/16 to stay within the normal flash sync speed, but even then, the speedlight does not have enough power to overpower the sun. As a result, the subject ends up underexposed, requiring the exposure to be raised in post-processing, which increases noise and destroys detail.

In fact, by stopping down to f/11 the A7RVI will only produce about 16MP worth of detail because of diffraction! https://starlight-code.com/posts/diffraction-calculator/

So while the higher-resolution body has a theoretical advantage in resolving detail, the A9 III's global shutter can sometimes allow it to operate closer to a lens's optimal aperture which yields more resolution under actual shooting conditions.

Ultimately, the right camera depends on the subject, available light, and how you're shooting.

For example, my 600ws AD600 weighs 3.5kg. In situations where I can use as many strobes as I want then yes the R series body will be the right camera to pick for that shoot!



Oct 30, 2026 at 11:21 AM
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p.3 #2 · When is the new Sony A7C III coming out?


aCuria wrote:
Having shot with the A1, A9 III, and various A7R bodies, I have a few thoughts.

Yes the A9iii is not an A7Rxx, but the weight difference is not as much as you make it out to be. In fact the A7RVI is somewhat heavier than the A9iii!

Dynamic range

The A9 III's dynamic range disadvantage is most pronounced at ISO 100, simply because it doesn't offer a native ISO 100 setting. At higher ISOs, the gap narrows considerably. In my experience, at ISO 250 and again at ISO 800 and above (the A9 III's second base ISO), I see little practical
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Apologies to @aCuria. There was a typo in my post to which you made this long reply. The last camera I mentioned for the comparison should have been "A7Cxx" and not "A7Rx." The corrected text is consistent with the rest of my post, while the post with the typo is internally incosnsitent. My post was comparing the A9III to the A7Cxx cameras in terms of how they are different, not to the A7Rxx cameras.

Sorry for the confusing typo.



Oct 30, 2026 at 07:02 PM
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p.3 #3 · When is the new Sony A7C III coming out?


raminolta wrote:
Not sure why you think the rear screen in A7c ii is any better than the one on Z5iic?! Again my argument wasn't about what I want or a few other forums members here want. Of course, enthusiast gear oriented crowd like you and I are not going to buy a low grade camera. I am not going to buy even the current version of A7c ii or A7cr. I want all the features of A7r v in an A7c body!

However to be honest with you, if I were on budget and I didn't care much about owning a
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I've been a Sony shooter since the very first A7R, which I still have on my shelf. I recently bought the A7RVI, which I absolutely love. Best digital camera I've ever used, bar none. Now, my nephew is getting in to photography and, as an avid bird watcher since he was young, bird photography is on the menu too. Being in his early 20s and soon to be a student again, his budget is limited. He has been working for a bit, so had some hard earned money to spend. I helped him research, look at and buy a camera. Sony has nothing in the ballpark of something like the Nikon Z5II. It's a deeply impressive camera for the money, and actually competes quite gamely with the Sony A7V, a camera 50% more expensive. It's built well, fits beautifully in the hand, has great autofocus, and lacks for no features. Just a killer of an entry level camera.

Lenses? Sure, Sony wins; dominates even. But my nephew only needs a super tele and a standard zoom for now. He got the 180-600 and the quite underrated 24-70/4S, both excellent lenses. The 24-70/4 was a kit lens on the early Z series, and they over achieved with it, so mint used copies are available for a great price. After that, I suspect the 50/1.8S. But that's all he'll need for quite a while. And if he gets bored, he can the Megadap and adapt my lenses.

Anyways, all that is to say - Sony doesn't compete very well at the FF low end. I suspect they don't care, and that we, mostly owners of A1s and A9s and A7Rs, don't care either. But that's not to say Sony won't care, eventually.




Oct 30, 2026 at 10:41 PM
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p.3 #4 · When is the new Sony A7C III coming out?


aCuria wrote:
Having shot with the A1, A9 III, and various A7R bodies, I have a few thoughts.

Yes the A9iii is not an A7Rxx, but the weight difference is not as much as you make it out to be. In fact the A7RVI is somewhat heavier than the A9iii!

Dynamic range

The A9 III's dynamic range disadvantage is most pronounced at ISO 100, simply because it doesn't offer a native ISO 100 setting. At higher ISOs, the gap narrows considerably. In my experience, at ISO 250 and again at ISO 800 and above (the A9 III's second base ISO), I see little practical
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to put flash into perspective, i shoot professionally and shot a graduation a few weeks back and took my a7iv and the tiny godox 320 with me instead of my ad100, the little flash worked flawlessly filling in shadowed faces. which is all you should be doing anyway.



Oct 31, 2026 at 12:42 AM
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