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p.1 #145/1.2 on crop??
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What’s the 45/1.2 like on crop?
Have both R100 and R50
Not bothered about buying another body
None really appeal atm

I have most/all of the current consumer RF primes

The 1.2 aperture sounds nice for dark winter days here in the UK
But the lack of IS and poor MFD makes me think leave alone and stick with my 24&35/1.8 is??

Just curious really plus a bit of FOMO too
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Aug 02, 2026 at 04:14 AM
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p.1 #245/1.2 on crop??
There are better and more promising ways to treat anxiety 😂
Aug 02, 2026 at 05:57 AM
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p.1 #345/1.2 on crop??
I happen to have the 45/1.2. Decent lens for the price and a step up from the old EF 50/1.4. But, it isn't quite up to par with the old EF 50/1.2L. Neither of which has IS so there's that. It seems that none of the 50 mm range of lenses has IS, other than zooms which don't have that extra bright aperture.

For the price, the 50/1.8 will give you more bang for the buck, though it's a bit slower on aperture. The minimum focus distance is just a hair less than 1 foot.
Aug 02, 2026 at 09:01 AM
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Tom_W wrote:
I happen to have the 45/1.2. Decent lens for the price and a step up from the old EF 50/1.4. But, it isn't quite up to par with the old EF 50/1.2L. Neither of which has IS so there's that. It seems that none of the 50 mm range of lenses has IS, other than zooms which don't have that extra bright aperture.

For the price, the 50/1.8 will give you more bang for the buck, though it's a bit slower on aperture. The minimum focus distance is just a hair less than 1 foot.



Thank you
I’ve decided not to bother
As you say the 50 offers more “bang for the buck”.
The only other lens that I might consider (probably next year now) is the RF 70-200/4is.
But deep down I doubt I will. I have several white EF lenses that never see use now since son stopped playing football. I can’t bring myself to use these whilst out and about in public places - they attract too much unwanted attention. Hence why I picked up the lowly 55-210… even then I cut down the hood to make it more compact.

I can never understand these people who swagger round with big whites in public…deep down I’m cringing with embarrassment for them. Looks proper sad., attention seeking and dare I say…creepy AF!!
If I need magnification I use the “ Black” EF 70-300is ii nano (again hood chopped down)… take the shot then swap for something shorter.
Aug 02, 2026 at 11:31 AM
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p.1 #545/1.2 on crop??
It is quite a harsh, uncalled comment and opinion about white lense use by people you dont even know.

Just my opinion!
Aug 03, 2026 at 08:45 AM
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Pixelpuffin wrote:
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I can never understand these people who swagger round with big whites in public…deep down I’m cringing with embarrassment for them. Looks proper sad., attention seeking and dare I say…creepy AF!!
If I need magnification I use the “ Black” EF 70-300is ii nano (again hood chopped down)… take the shot then swap for something shorter.


If it's not about Canon, then it's about other people. 👎
Aug 03, 2026 at 10:05 AM
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Sanlameer wrote:
It is quite a harsh, uncalled comment and opinion about white lense use by people you dont even know.

Just my opinion!


That’s correct, it is your opinion. I’ve stated my opinion above. We are fine to disagree.

There are various types of photographers

There’s the serious type or family man

Then there’s the show off’s wannabe lookatme brigade

Then there’s the pervs that use photography as a smokescreen to take voyeur/candid snaps

I’ve met all three in my time .

A month or so ago we visited a seaside town, unbeknownst to us it was a Goth weekend.
I have never seen so many middle/old aged men scurrying round taking pictures of young girls in sexy goth outfits. There were just as many middle aged women dressed as goths., they looked fabulous , but the pervs weren’t interested in them they seemed to be more interested in just the teens and early 20’s.

I had my camera over my shoulder but felt uncomfortable as didn’t want to be associated so we returned to the car put camera in the boot then went for fish n chip dinner.

And before you say anything, it was actually my partner that commented on the way home, saying “did you see all the creepy leering men taking pictures.

The unsettling thing for me was they were all using caneras not phones, as if the camera made them appear more “professional”.

Either way, they looked like creeps




Aug 03, 2026 at 12:08 PM
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p.1 #845/1.2 on crop??
Why many people bring those white creeper lenses where nobody can see them?
Aug 03, 2026 at 01:13 PM
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Can i nominate this as best post of the week ? Will have to try not to swagger next time i go birding.


I can never understand these people who swagger round with big whites in public…deep down I’m cringing with embarrassment for them. Looks proper sad., attention seeking and dare I say…creepy AF!!
If I need magnification I use the “ Black” EF 70-300is ii nano (again hood chopped down)… take the shot then swap for something shorter.
Aug 03, 2026 at 05:16 PM
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p.1 #1045/1.2 on crop??
I tend to enjoy a good deal of bird photography. A LOT of big lenses of all brands are there - Canon, Sony, Nikon, Sigma, and a few others. Warbler season is big around here and you will see a lot of big guns out there. For a reason - more focal length and more aperture are very beneficial when trying to photograph fleeting little birds that dart in and out of the shadows of the wooded areas.

They have their purpose. I've dabbled a time or two with the big white Canon glass but for my purposes and my level of income, they're not practical. My most recent was the 500 f/4 IS II which was excellent but I wasn't using it so I sold it here on the forum about a year and a half ago.
Aug 03, 2026 at 05:58 PM
 


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I have camo like a lenscoat on the front section or two of the 500/4 IS II, but not all of them.

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Aug 03, 2026 at 10:09 PM
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p.1 #1245/1.2 on crop??
Can confirm that the 45/1.2 works just fine on the R100 cameras. Does what you’d expect it to. Can’t say much more as I haven’t used it a great deal — they’re work cameras.

Cannot confirm that big lenses in public make you look creepy, the behaviour of some men at goth festivals notwithstanding.
Aug 03, 2026 at 11:01 PM
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The only other lens that I might consider (probably next year now) is the RF 70-200/4is.
But deep down I doubt I will. I have several white EF lenses that never see use now since son stopped playing football. I can’t bring myself to use these whilst out and about in public places - they attract too much unwanted attention. Hence why I picked up the lowly 55-210… even then I cut down the hood to make it more compact.

I can never understand these people who swagger round with big whites in public…deep down I’m cringing with embarrassment for them.
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Got the RF 70-200 f/4 L, but not to swagger around, it is after all Canons smallest "Big White". Got it mostly for the colour and to force me into the 70-200 FL´s as I usually use something 24- or now 15-30 for wides and 200-800 for narrows, or 100-500. This lens is so much smaller than the EF versions. But the hood is, again, excessively large. So now I use the RF50/1.2-hood I had on the 100-500 on the 70-200 and RF70-200/4-hood on the 100-500 where it is nicely balanced.

As I´m not into those super blurred out world views, the f/4 is a splendid lens indeed for my use! And the black hood dampens my swagger a suitable notch or two. Great optics!

Aug 04, 2026 at 02:57 AM
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Pixelpuffin wrote...
The only other lens that I might consider (probably next year now) is the RF 70-200/4is.
But deep down I doubt I will. I have several white EF lenses that never see use now since son stopped playing football. I can’t bring myself to use these whilst out and about in public places - they attract too much unwanted attention. Hence why I picked up the lowly 55-210… even then I cut down the hood to make it more compact.

I can never understand these people who swagger round with big whites in public…deep down I’m cringing with embarrassment for them. Looks proper sad., attention seeking and dare I say…creepy AF!!
If I need magnification I use the “ Black” EF 70-300is ii nano (again hood chopped down)… take the shot then swap for something shorter.
Got the RF 70-200 f/4 L, but not to swagger around, it is after all Canons smallest "Big White". Got it mostly for the colour and to force me into the 70-200 FL´s as I usually use something 24- or now 15-30 for wides and 200-800 for narrows, or 100-500. This lens is so much smaller than the EF versions. But the hood is, again, excessively large. So now I use the RF50/1.2-hood I had on the 100-500 on the 70-200 and RF70-200/4-hood on the 100-500 where it is nicely balanced.

As I´m not into those super blurred out world views,
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I probably will end up buying the F4 version at some point- unless canon offer a consumer version
Not looked to see if there’s a black cover I can buy or a 3rd party hood to buy and chop down.

The only thing that’s putting me off (besides being white) is that the lens will only ever work on RF bodies…. Whilst my EF stuff will work on all canon mounts and a few non canon bodies too.
That’s one of the main reasons.

I’m hoping canon release either a R100 mkii or R50mkii
Not interested in R7 or FF tbh. My lenses would lose a lot of reach going FF meaning I’d be forced to go big with lenses too… I’m just not that committed anymore. I enjoy taking jpeg snaps these days and sharing via phone/tablet. Never EVER print anything.
Aug 04, 2026 at 10:28 AM
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Pixelpuffin wrote:
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I probably will end up buying the F4 version at some point- unless canon offer a consumer version
Not looked to see if there’s a black cover I can buy or a 3rd party hood to buy and chop down.

The only thing that’s putting me off (besides being white) is that the lens will only ever work on RF bodies…. Whilst my EF stuff will work on all canon mounts and a few non canon bodies too.
That’s one of the main reasons.

I’m hoping canon release either a R100 mkii or R50mkii
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Do you have nightmares at night?

Why do you doubt that Canon will definitely deliver a single RF 70-200mm f/4 lens with scaled-back features as a "customer-grade" version for you in 2027—in matte black, with a factory-shortened lens hood? Just for you, the one and only VIP customer. Just believe in it.

Just as every Nikon Z lenses are compatible with f-mount cameras from 1950 onward, and every Sony E-mount lenses are compatible with Minolta A-mounts, Canon will be able to do the same for you with RF lenses for the mounts of your choice with a fingertip. Minimum EF-mount.

Yes, there will be a R100 mkii or/and R50mkii. But not with the features or prices you are dreaming of,



Aug 04, 2026 at 05:26 PM
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tomba8tomba wrote:
Pixelpuffin wrote…..
I probably will end up buying the F4 version at some point- unless canon offer a consumer version
Not looked to see if there’s a black cover I can buy or a 3rd party hood to buy and chop down.

The only thing that’s putting me off (besides being white) is that the lens will only ever work on RF bodies…. Whilst my EF stuff will work on all canon mounts and a few non canon bodies too.
That’s one of the main reasons.

I’m hoping canon release either a R100 mkii or R50mkii
…
Do you have nightmares at night?

Why do you doubt that Canon will definitely deliver a single RF 70-200mm f/4 lens with scaled-back features as a "customer-grade" version for you in 2027—in matte black, with a factory-shortened lens hood? Just for you, the one and only VIP customer. Just believe in it.

Just as every Nikon Z lenses are compatible with f-mount cameras from 1950 onward, and every Sony E-mount lenses are compatible with Minolta A-mounts, Canon will be able to do the same for you with RF lenses for the mounts of your choice with a fingertip. Minimum EF-mount.

Yes, there will
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Snarkyness aside….
Canon used to do middle tier optics up until fairly recently
For example they had 80-200 kit stuff, 70-210 usm, 70-200L
Now it’s 55-210 7.1 or 70-200L 4 (or 2.8)

I truthfully have no real need for a white pro lens… I’m not a pro
Therefore the alternative is a 7.1 210!!

There’s no middle ground no more

Incidentally
Canon once did the old 50-200 f4 in both L and non L - I have both, so know it to be true.

It’s only since the R came about that canon started cutting corners with 6.3, 7.1, 8, 11 maximum apertures
I’m actually trying to think of any ef glass that was slower than 5.6??
The irony is we once cursed 5.6 for being too slow!!
Now it’s mostly 6.3 and 7.1

As for the silly quip regarding mkii’s…
The R100 is mostly fine but the mode dial is so easily nudged… almost everytime I use it I find I’ve nudged the non locking dial.

Incidentally…
Have you noticed the glutton of rf 50/1.2 and the short R F2 zoom (28-70??) on the used market
Most times the sellers readily admit the lens was a poor choice, too big and too heavy.
It seems canon caters for the Pro market knowing many serious amateurs (wannabe pros) will also buy too. But the meagre offerings for just “normal” folks is served with basically shite…slow, poor optically plastic consumer tat. That relies heavily on built in camera corrections.

It’s pretty dire really.


Aug 04, 2026 at 10:37 PM
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Pixelpuffin wrote:
Snarkyness aside….



My comment was meant seriously.
Aug 05, 2026 at 12:17 AM
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Pixelpuffin wrote:
Now it’s 55-210 7.1 or 70-200L 4 (or 2.8)

I truthfully have no real need for a white pro lens… I’m not a pro


Nowhere do they say the RF 70–200mm f/4 IS L is only for pros. In fact most pro work is in fields where the f/2.8 is preferred. This lens is probably mainly intended for landscape and travel. For landscape, the weather sealing and advanced coatings are very desirable. It costs what it costs. (And if you want this lens from Canon or Sony, it is white. Deal with it.)

It’s only since the R came about that canon started cutting corners with 6.3, 7.1, 8, 11 maximum apertures
I’m actually trying to think of any ef glass that was slower than 5.6??


It’s not corner cutting. Only the most expensive Canon DSLRs had the extra hardware needed to actually autofocus at f/8 and narrower. Now that’s technically easier on mirrorless, Canon can make slower lenses. When both were on sale at the same time, the RF 100–500mm f/4.5–7.1 was more expensive than the lens it succeeded, the slightly faster EF 100–400mm f/4.5-5.6 Mk II.

But the meagre offerings for just “normal” folks is served with basically shite…slow, poor optically plastic consumer tat. That relies heavily on built in camera corrections.

It’s pretty dire really.


But it need not have concerned you. With what you’ve spent on so many low-end Canon items you could have easily had a very nice small kit of high-end pieces, Canon or otherwise. Something like an R5 + 85 VCM + 35 VCM.
Aug 05, 2026 at 01:29 AM
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melcat wrote:
Pixelpuffin wroteNow it’s 55-210 7.1 or 70-200L 4 (or 2.8)

I truthfully have no real need for a white pro lens… I’m not a pro
Nowhere do they say the RF 70–200mm f/4 IS L is only for pros. In fact most pro work is in fields where the f/2.8 is preferred. This lens is probably mainly intended for landscape and travel. For landscape, the weather sealing and advanced coatings are very desirable. It costs what it costs. (And if you want this lens from Canon or Sony, it is white. Deal with it.)

Earlier quoteIt’s only since the R came about that canon started cutting corners with 6.3, 7.1, 8, 11 maximum apertures
I’m actually trying to think of any ef glass that was slower than 5.6??
It’s not corner cutting. Only the most expensive Canon DSLRs had the extra hardware needed to actually autofocus at f/8 and narrower. Now that’s technically easier on mirrorless, Canon can make slower
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Earlier quoteBut the meagre offerings for just “normal” folks is served with basically shite…slow, poor optically plastic consumer tat. That relies heavily on built in camera corrections.

It’s pretty dire really.



But BUT
I don’t want a R5 and 85
If that’s what I wanted I’d have already bought it
Same goes for the R1 or R3
Why on earth would I want to haul around a R5 and 85?? Just why??

I’m so invested in canon to jump now would be a huge huge upheaval and then it’s Sod’s Law canon would extend their aps-c line.

This is primarily why I started using Pentax 3yrs ago. I couldn’t justify the expense of jumping say to Fuji, so picked up a few Pentax bits… loved the colours.
Their Da lenses are so small and compact. But the downside is Pentax AF is nowhere near as refined as canon (or Nikon, Fuji, Sony etc etc)
I’ve been with canon since the mid 80’s.

But now, I’ve no desire whatsoever to go FF and haul around heavy FF glass. I can think of nothing worse.
Hence why I’m concentrating on aps-c. The smaller format is much more palatable when out and about in public.



Aug 05, 2026 at 02:31 AM
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But BUT
I don’t want a R5 and 85
If that’s what I wanted I’d have already bought it


If you want APS-C, Fujifilm has a nice system. It has a whole lot of canned JPEG modes imitating renditions of classic films like Astia which might appeal to you.

OM System have a very nice system with an even smaller sensor. They offer funky retro cameras, and also very high end wildlife and outdoors items for people who want to carry less weight. You might like the retro ones.

Even a used Leica Q series or Sony RX1 series compact might have been in your budget, and suit your concerns about faffing with lens changes and conspicuousness.

You’ve been told before about Sigma’s excellent APS-C lenses for RF mount if you do want to keep your Canon body.
Aug 05, 2026 at 03:25 AM


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