One nit — at this pixel level, ISO 1600 is already showing noise. Yes it’s easily cleaned up without much data loss. I can live with that especially now we have AI NR.
Question: with Sony is it not possible to save self-timer delayed shutter with AF button preferences in a custom setting? It seems if I set those to say 2-second delay and AF rear button only for tripod landscape shooting, and then save that to a CF, everything gets them and I have to manually toggle them back? I realize I can add them to my quick menu and it’s relatively trivial, but both Nikon and Fuji before allowed me to do this. Am I missing something?
Jack Flesher wrote:
Less than 24 hours with this body.
One nit — at this pixel level, ISO 1600 is already showing noise. Yes it’s easily cleaned up without much data loss. I can live with that especially now we have AI NR.
Question: with Sony is it not possible to save self-timer delayed shutter with AF button preferences in a custom setting? It seems if I set those to say 2-second delay and AF rear button only for tripod landscape shooting, and then save that to a CF, everything gets them and I have to manually toggle them back? I realize I can add them to my quick menu and it’s relatively trivial, but both Nikon and Fuji before allowed me to do this. Am I missing something?...Show more →
Yes, you can easily do that. Your best bet is to set the Camera Set Memory to Automatic Update. Minor changes, such as setting a delayed shutter actuation, will be automatically incorporated /updated in the setting. On my MR Landscape Shooting Mode, I change the shutter delay to 2 seconds. The delayed shutter actuation will be there until you change it back to whatever and it will be set that way from now on until you change it again, of course.I didn't remember seeing the Automatic Update feature in the A1 II before. And to me it is a welcome feature. BTW, I set the Drive Mode of my camera at the default setting, by pushing the left wheel button.
AGeoJO wrote:
Yes, you can easily do that. Your best bet is to set the Camera Set Memory to Automatic Update. Minor changes, such as setting a delayed shutter actuation, will be automatically incorporated /updated in the setting. On my MR Landscape Shooting Mode, I change the shutter delay to 2 seconds. The delayed shutter actuation will be there until you change it back to whatever and it will be set that way from now on until you change it again, of course.I didn't remember seeing the Automatic Update feature in the A1 II before. And to me it is a welcome feature. BTW, I set the Drive Mode of my camera at the default setting, by pushing the left wheel button. ...Show more →
So I am doing all that, but I cannot get AF with Shutter Button OFF to stick just to one memory group, instead that setting is still global and changes to that for every mode. I have to then manually switch it back to AF with shutter button, and now it's that on every setting, again globally.
Jack Flesher wrote:
So I am doing all that, but I cannot get AF with Shutter Button OFF to stick just to one memory group, instead that setting is still global and changes to that for every mode. I have to then manually switch it back to AF with shutter button, and now it's that on every setting, again globally.
Well, that's weird.. mine works. Did you register the setting as MR * (whatever number you assign)? Just to be clear, you are using the Memory Recall (MR) setting, right?
AGeoJO wrote:
Well, that's weird.. mine works. Did you register the setting as MR * (whatever number you assign)? Just to be clear, you are using the Memory Recall (MR) setting, right?
Appreciate you trying to help here. Yes. In this case Memory Recall 3. I have renamed it to Landscape. Everything sticks except Shutter AF OFF. (FWIW I have this exact same issue with my A7Cii, the Shutter AF OFF will not stick to a chosen MR spot and changing that for an MR setting box also applies it globally.)
So to be clear, my steps: 1) I go to * and recall 3, my Landscape group; 2) I set Shutter AF to OFF, and even though I have Auto Save settings turned on, I still tried to re-save this manually. Now If I go to MR1 for example, which was memorized with Shutter AF to ON, it is now OFF, and also OFF in MR2 which was also previously ON and also OFF in all the independent M, S, A and P positions. To get Shutter AF to work, I now have to go back into the menu and manually turn it back ON -- AND it's now back ON for everything. IOW, it only applies globally for me.
What's troubling is the fact it works this same way on my A7Cii, which in turn had me believing this was a Sony thing. But the fact yours works as it seems it should, this has me now totally baffled at what I am not doing properly My current workaround is I've assigned Shutter AF ON/OFF to the first slot in my quick menu, which is not ideal but workable.
Jack, I had the same problem. AF c shutter did not stick with my MR setups and I messed up a few focus stacks until I realized what was happening. I asked Chat GPT and it said there was no simple fix, that for some reason this is how the Sony setup works. I did what you did and added it to my menu near the top.
bwcolor wrote:
After 88 pages of posts and many of them regarding BIF, small vs large birds, hummingbirds.. Isn’t there a lot of information already provided about a camera that was designed for resolution and not for swinging bats, clubs and hummingbird wings? In short, many have posted that they, when shooting in the extremes, found artifacts, but also could find many acceptable images.
Gerald Undone says anything under 15ms is great for most applications... There does seem to be a bit of skewed perspectives here and the measurebaters are out in force, it's really really bad. The operative term here is "most."
I can live with bent Hummingbird wings on a 66mp camera. And considering it's a 66MP camera, it's pretty AMAZING what Sony has pulled off here.
doc4x5 wrote:
Jack, I had the same problem. AF c shutter did not stick with my MR setups and I messed up a few focus stacks until I realized what was happening. I asked Chat GPT and it said there was no simple fix, that for some reason this is how the Sony setup works. I did what you did and added it to my menu near the top.
Okay, good to have it confirmed but... I'm still puzzled that @AGeoJO seems to have it working for him...
Jack Flesher wrote:
Okay, good to have it confirmed but... I'm still puzzled that @AGeoJO@ seems to have it working for him...
Again, to be completely clear here. You want to use a 2-sec delay as one of the MR settings, right? Let's call that MR Landscape. If you set the camera to a different MR setting, MR Portrait, for example, without delay, the 2-sec delay becomes inactive. But if you set the camera back to MR Landscape you want that 2-sec delay to be activated again. Is that right? Yes, mine works that way.
AGeoJO wrote:
Again, to be completely clear here. You want to use a 2-sec delay as one of the MR settings, right? Let's call that MR Landscape. If you set the camera to a different MR setting, MR Portrait, for example, without delay, the 2-sec delay becomes inactive. But if you set the camera back to MR Landscape you want that 2-sec delay to be activated again. Is that right? Yes, mine works that way.
No. I probably wasn’t clear enough in my question. I did mention that as one of the 2 main settings I was trying to get set for my landscape set and it, the 2-second delay option holds fine. It’s the Shutter AF ON vs AF OFF setting that will not save to a MR bank separately.
Jack Flesher wrote:
Okay, good to have it confirmed but... I'm still puzzled that @AGeoJO@ seems to have it working for him...
Works for me too so you must be doing something wrong.
I have 4 custom settings I use out of the 10 that are available and one is for low light. I can set this to use a delayed shutter release drive mode and if I switch to one of the other custom settings then the drive mode changes to whatever setting was used last in that custom mode so the delayed shutter setting only affects the low light custom setting(MR4 in my case).
Are you sure you are using custom MR settings and not one of the original MR settings on the dial.
duncangr wrote:
Works for me too so you must be doing something wrong.
I have 4 custom settings I use out of the 10 that are available and one is for low light. I can set this to use a delayed shutter release drive mode and if I switch to one of the other custom settings then the drive mode changes to whatever setting was used last in that custom mode so the delayed shutter setting only affects the low light custom setting(MR4 in my case).
Are you sure you are using custom MR settings and not one of the original MR settings on the dial....Show more →
So let me be really specific, I am specifically asking about the "Shutter AF" menu item. Are you certain you can change that to OFF (or ON) and add it one MR and save it, and it will do that without turning it OFF (or ON) for the entire camera and all other MR's? Two of us can't get it to stick in the new A7R6 MR, nor can I make it work on another Sony body.
Jack Flesher wrote:
So let me be really specific, I am specifically asking about the "Shutter AF" menu item. Are you certain you can change that to OFF (or ON) and add it one MR and save it, and it will do that without turning it OFF (or ON) for the entire camera and all other MR's? Two of us can't get it to stick in the new A7R6 MR, nor can I make it work on another Sony body.
Sorry I was referring to the delay timer.
I assume you mean the Focus > AF/MF > AF w/ Shutter option - in which case you are correct it seems to be a global setting and not saved in the custom settings.
Does Sony provide a list of which settings are 'saved' in these custom settings ? I don't recall seeing one.
duncangr wrote:
Sorry I was referring to the delay timer.
I assume you mean the Focus > AF/MF > AF w/ Shutter option - in which case you are correct it seems to be a global setting and not saved in the custom settings.
Yes, that was my question. It seems odd to me as both Nikon and Fuji previously allowed that setting saved.
duncangr wrote:
Does Sony provide a list of which settings are 'saved' in these custom settings ? I don't recall seeing one.
Not to my knowledge. For the record, being able to save shutter AF on or off in a MR seems pretty basic. This to me is a huge oversight by Sony. It with rear, single AF is a pretty common landscape off tripod shooting combo.
Jack Flesher wrote:
Yes, that was my question. It seems odd to me as both Nikon and Fuji previously allowed that setting saved.
Not to my knowledge. For the record, being able to save shutter AF on or off in a MR seems pretty basic. This to me is a huge oversight by Sony. It with rear, single AF is a pretty common landscape off tripod shooting combo.
Well, why some settings and not others is the question. Seems like one would have to use trial and error to work out which ones are saved and which aren't.
Jack Flesher wrote:
Not to my knowledge. For the record, being able to save shutter AF on or off in a MR seems pretty basic. This to me is a huge oversight by Sony. It with rear, single AF is a pretty common landscape off tripod shooting combo.
To each his own and so I would never begrudge someone's preference about custom controls, but for me personally, switching between BBF and shutter AF in different shooting scenarios would severely confuse my muscle memory.
My current workaround is I've assigned Shutter AF ON/OFF to the first slot in my quick menu, which is not ideal but workable. 