p.5 #1 · Nikon’s next move: What camera body are you expecting?
bernardl wrote:
OK, they made one mistake in 2020...
Cheers,
Bernard
You asked for an example, this is *one* example. I have better things to do than search Nikonrumors history for all the false things they claimed over the last couple of years. No shame on them btw, they're a rumor site, not news.
p.5 #2 · Nikon’s next move: What camera body are you expecting?
leolab wrote:
I agree that the IQ and performance gains seem to be plateauing...I think that perhaps working on the style/enjoyment of cameras might be a good complement to the current Nikon lineup...I would love to see Nikon dip into their design history and produce a Nikon rangefinder-style smaller FF body, it would pair very well with the expanding Voigtlander MF lens choices...I think this would target additional customers for Nikon rather than cater to existing customers.
Every time I play with a Leica Q3 I think why doesn't Nikon just take the existing Z8 or Z6iii tech and make it into a rangefinder body.
p.5 #3 · Nikon’s next move: What camera body are you expecting?
sungphoto wrote:
Every time I play with a Leica Q3 I think why doesn't Nikon just take the existing Z8 or Z6iii tech and make it into a rangefinder body.
The reason being possibly interference from the Japanese METI attempting to protect Fuji’s niche vs the big 3.
At least is it the theory of a Japanese friend of mines well connected with the industry.
p.5 #5 · Nikon’s next move: What camera body are you expecting?
fjablo wrote:
You asked for an example, this is *one* example. I have better things to do than search Nikonrumors history for all the false things they claimed over the last couple of years. No shame on them btw, they're a rumor site, not news.
p.5 #6 · Nikon’s next move: What camera body are you expecting?
bernardl wrote:
The reason being possibly interference from the Japanese METI attempting to protect Fuji’s niche vs the big 3.
At least is it the theory of a Japanese friend of mines well connected with the industry.
Cheers,
Bernard
My guess is that Nikon knows they don't have the resources of manufacturers like Sony, so they've been really focused on making each product a success. They can't afford to just spray and pray a bunch of different bodies and lenses (like Sony). As much as nerds like me say they want a rangefinder, I am guessing their market research data doesn't support the potential costs for tooling, marketing, etc.
I'm hoping that cameras that have a RF form factor like the Nikon ZR convince them otherwise. I am drawn more to the ZR than the ZF for street photography, at least in theory.
p.5 #7 · Nikon’s next move: What camera body are you expecting?
In the guessing side, I'd think an "rf" is more likely than a resurrected D850 successor. It's kind of interesting, I looked up the ZR and some of the promotional talk is on it's compact size and also shows in use with all kinds of "video" add-ons. In looking to Sony, the A7C series and the aps-cs are smaller rectangular bodies and generally their full size bodies are smaller than some of the Nikon and Canon offerings. One can make a small body larger with add-on grips, plates, battery housings, etc. You can't make a bigger body smaller. I noted how much bigger the Z8 is compared to my considered A7Rv, etc. Not sure how vintage or retro the externals might be. I kind of like the looks of the two tone A7Cs "silver."
That's independent of the idea that a particular body or type is "due" for refresh or catch-up, like figuring an A7v was coming because it was the last (I think) of the bodies which didn't have the processor, menu, focus system, etc., upgrades with the A7Rv.
p.5 #8 · Nikon’s next move: What camera body are you expecting?
I'd say keep updating cameras with faster bandwidth, viewfinder improvements, better flash sync speed, better heat sinking, more energy efficiency, better on-board audio (like the ZR), and a crop body or two with IBIS and EN-EL15 battery support wouldn't hurt. Beefing up SnapBridge and taking advantage of gains in WiFi and Bluetooth wouldn't hurt either. I'm not sure there's much to be gained by pushing past 45MP unless this opens the door to something else like, say, dynamic range improving faster from there being extra pixels than it deteriorates from the pixels being smaller.
Certain things can be done in firmware; 1.2x and 5:4 ratio crop modes, improvements to AF and so on.
p.5 #9 · Nikon’s next move: What camera body are you expecting?
Craig Gillette wrote:
In the guessing side, I'd think an "rf" is more likely than a resurrected D850 successor. It's kind of interesting, I looked up the ZR and some of the promotional talk is on it's compact size and also shows in use with all kinds of "video" add-ons. In looking to Sony, the A7C series and the aps-cs are smaller rectangular bodies and generally their full size bodies are smaller than some of the Nikon and Canon offerings. One can make a small body larger with add-on grips, plates, battery housings, etc. You can't make a bigger body smaller. I noted how much bigger the Z8 is compared to my considered A7Rv, etc. Not sure how vintage or retro the externals might be. I kind of like the looks of the two tone A7Cs "silver."
That's independent of the idea that a particular body or type is "due" for refresh or catch-up, like figuring an A7v was coming because it was the last (I think) of the bodies which didn't have the processor, menu, focus system, etc., upgrades with the A7Rv....Show more →
I agree, as much as I'd love to see an updated D850 with better live view and video recording capabilities, I'm guessing the D780 didn't make any sales records. For me, the D850 (which I'm likely to pick up again) is the great white shark of DSLRs and doesn't need a follow-up.
The more I play with the ZR, the more I wish it had more resolution in stills, and open gate recording for video in 8k. Plus, of course straight to SSD recording without needing a capture card in between. I'm a big fan of the clean user interface and controls.
