p.2 #1 · Sigma announces development of 85mm f/1.2 DG Art - ETA September `26
AlexLF wrote:
Finally, someone is making it! Now I wonder if Viltrox gets a 85/1.2 LAB at about the same time. Because I'm very happy with the Viltrox 35/1.2 LAB. But anyway, these are good news!
p.2 #2 · Sigma announces development of 85mm f/1.2 DG Art - ETA September `26
As someone that had the Z 85/1.2 and let it go in lieu of the Sirui 85/1.4, these huge hunks of glass are largely shelf pieces. They are monstrosities that rarely leave the house and not all that fun to shoot with (and you'll very, VERY rarely use them wide open).
p.2 #3 · Sigma announces development of 85mm f/1.2 DG Art - ETA September `26
Currently, I don't have a good reason to add an 85mm f1.2 to my kit. I am hoping Sigma makes an updated 85mm f1.4 after the 85mm f1.2, as they did with their updated 35mm f1.2 and 35mm f1.4. But back when I was doing portraits, stage performances, and low light event photos, I probably would have quickly added a high quality 85mm f1.2 to my kit.
p.2 #4 · Sigma announces development of 85mm f/1.2 DG Art - ETA September `26
The longer the lens, the less you need maximal lens speed for separation, maybe some exceptions for bragging rights and studio. Many street shooters already either use a 75mm or stop down their 85s a little. But that is not Sigma, is it.
p.2 #5 · Sigma announces development of 85mm f/1.2 DG Art - ETA September `26
philip_pj wrote:
The longer the lens, the less you need maximal lens speed for separation, maybe some exceptions for bragging rights and studio. Many street shooters already either use a 75mm or stop down their 85s a little. But that is not Sigma, is it.
65mm is too short, 90mm is too long, and an 85/1.4 suddenly loses its ability to stop down if it carries a Sigma badge? After all, they do make an 85/1.4. Between expecting an exact 75mm match and needing a full background check on a lens’s lineage and true identity before shooting it, the criteria for acceptable glass seems to shift dramatically depending on the logo on the barrel.
p.2 #6 · Sigma announces development of 85mm f/1.2 DG Art - ETA September `26
philip_pj wrote:
The longer the lens, the less you need maximal lens speed for separation, maybe some exceptions for bragging rights and studio. Many street shooters already either use a 75mm or stop down their 85s a little. But that is not Sigma, is it.
p.2 #7 · Sigma announces development of 85mm f/1.2 DG Art - ETA September `26
RoamingScott wrote:
As someone that had the Z 85/1.2 and let it go in lieu of the Sirui 85/1.4, these huge hunks of glass are largely shelf pieces. They are monstrosities that rarely leave the house and not all that fun to shoot with (and you'll very, VERY rarely use them wide open).
I am not sure I agree.
First there is always a place for heavy glass in studio photography where the camera sits on a tripod so you do not care so much about the weight
And second, the Nikon Z 85/1.2 weighs about as much as a 70-200/2.8 so it should be easily hand-holdable.
To me a monstrosity would be something like the Z 58mm f/0.95 S Noct (2Kg)
p.2 #9 · Sigma announces development of 85mm f/1.2 DG Art - ETA September `26
aCuria wrote:
Is there a full frame 75mm?
Rokinon/Samyang make a tiny 75 f/1.8 for Sony. Voigtlander released their manual focus 75 f/1.5 in E mount as well. There are a bunch of Leica M mount 75mm lenses if you are into adapting.
p.2 #10 · Sigma announces development of 85mm f/1.2 DG Art - ETA September `26
aCuria wrote:
I am not sure I agree.
First there is always a place for heavy glass in studio photography where the camera sits on a tripod so you do not care so much about the weight
And second, the Nikon Z 85/1.2 weighs about as much as a 70-200/2.8 so it should be easily hand-holdable.
To me a monstrosity would be something like the Z 58mm f/0.95 S Noct (2Kg)
A studio isn't the same as field work. The 85/1.2 is a girthy, awkward lens on Z for extended handheld use. It's doable but it's not fun. The 70-200 balances better by virtue of distributing its weight across a longer plane.
p.2 #11 · Sigma announces development of 85mm f/1.2 DG Art - ETA September `26
RoamingScott wrote:
As someone that had the Z 85/1.2 and let it go in lieu of the Sirui 85/1.4, these huge hunks of glass are largely shelf pieces. They are monstrosities that rarely leave the house and not all that fun to shoot with (and you'll very, VERY rarely use them wide open).
Sigma latest 1.2's are really small (80mm x 110mm) and light for f1.2 (745~ g) and have 72mm filter thread.
35 f1.2 ii weighs only 750g compared to 920g Viltrox and Nikon 1060g.
50 f1.2 weighs only 740g compared to Sony 778g, Canon 950g, Nikon 1090g
Going by this trend, Sigma's 85 1.2 wont be much bigger or heavier than their f1.4 like they did with 35 & 50. Expect 750-800g.
Thanks for posting this! Love Sigmas (I have the 28-105/2.8 DG DN ART and the old 35/1.4 DG HSM ART). I'm interested in the upcoming 85/1.2 as well as the current 50/1.2. Prices dropped maybe in anticipation of the Viltrox 50/1.2. I expect the price difference between the Sigma and Viltrox to be ~CAD$ 400 but the Sigma will be lighter.
p.2 #18 · Sigma announces development of 85mm f/1.2 DG Art - ETA September `26
Hardly a featherweight, but lighter than company:
Sigma 85 1.2 DG Art 905g
Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM 950 g
Canon RF 85mm f/1.2 L USM DS 1187g
Canon RF 85mm F1.2 L USM 1196g
Nikon NIKKOR Z 85mm f/1.2 S 1160 g
p.2 #19 · Sigma announces development of 85mm f/1.2 DG Art - ETA September `26
I was waiting for this lens, but now with it being over 900g I don't think it compares favourably to the 620g 85GM2. 45% increase in weight for fairly subtle differences in blur doesn't seem worth it.
Or I should just stick with my 85GM1 I already have, like I've done in the years since the GM2 came out. There is something about the rendering of that lens that I love (dreamy at f/1.4 and modern/sharp at f/1.6), weight is in between the two newer lenses and the focus speed isn't an issue for me (I use the 50-150 when that matters).
