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p.8 #1 · Your Leica M EV1 Plans


1bwana1 wrote:
When using the diopter just get the text being displayed in the EVF as sharp as possible. Then the diopter is properly set. Do not try to get the image sharp with the diopter. Use focus for that. Make sure lens and EVF are perfectly clean when doing these steps.


Yup, just like my M11. Perhaps I didn't pay close enough attention but it's fine. The blank EVF was worriesome but appears to be working as it should.



Nov 25, 2025 at 05:54 PM
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rji2goleez wrote:
Well, I don't know what happened but all of a sudden, things are working the way they're supposed to. The diopter adjusted to a sharp image. The EVF/LCD is working in Auto as it should. Thank goodness. Now, on to discovering this camera.

I do like the lighter weight.

First image once the EVF stuff worked it's way out.

M EV1 + Zeiss Distagon 35/1.4
ISO 6400 f/2.8
SOOC



Still check the programed buttons
It may be that you have accidentally toggle it into the auto position and later may accidentally toggle it into another position. This can also all be tied into User Profiles so make sure you full understand them and how they are set on your camera.



Nov 25, 2025 at 05:57 PM
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p.8 #3 · Your Leica M EV1 Plans


1bwana1 wrote:
Still check the programed buttons
It may be that you have accidentally toggle it into the auto position and later may accidentally toggle it into another position. This can also all be tied into User Profiles so make sure you full understand them and how they are set on your camera.


Oh for sure. I was just excited to get this going. I'm sure it was pilot error but I couldn't figure it out. The camera is fairly simple in operation. I haven't changed any of the customizable buttons, levers, etc. In fact, I might not as they seem like a great place to start. User profiles will get set in the coming days. For now, I'm going to see how this all feels in its stock configuration.

One nice thing for sure . . . I love the Zeiss Distagon 35/1.4 and now it doesn't stick out into the EFV like it did on a rangefinder. +1

A little white balance and denoise on the previous image.







Nov 25, 2025 at 06:03 PM
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p.8 #4 · Your Leica M EV1 Plans


Nice collection you have going!


Nov 25, 2025 at 06:19 PM
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p.8 #5 · Your Leica M EV1 Plans


1bwana1 wrote:
Nice collection you have going!


Thanks! That's after selling off my Sony and Fuji GFX gear. A few more pieces to sell.



Nov 25, 2025 at 06:43 PM
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p.8 #6 · Your Leica M EV1 Plans


Decided after a few days with the EV1 that I am selling my M11M and M11P and 2xViso2's plus my Q3-28. No plans to sell Q3 43.


Dec 30, 2025 at 03:39 PM
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stgrove wrote:
Decided after a few days with the EV1 that I am selling my M11M and M11P and 2xViso2's plus my Q3-28. No plans to sell Q3 43.


I think that makes perfect sense for you. You also come away with some extra cash in the exchange. Spend it on a photography trip to one of your bucket locations!



Dec 30, 2025 at 04:33 PM
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p.8 #8 · Your Leica M EV1 Plans


1bwana1 wrote:
I think that makes perfect sense for you. You also come away with some extra cash in the exchange. Spend it on a photography trip to one of your bucket locations!


And I will. Thanks.



Dec 30, 2025 at 06:29 PM
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p.8 #9 · Your Leica M EV1 Plans


stgrove wrote:
Decided after a few days with the EV1 that I am selling my M11M and M11P and 2xViso2's plus my Q3-28. No plans to sell Q3 43.


I’m really surprised to hear this. Is it due to easier focusing because of eye sight? My thought is people with pretty good eyesight, and used to the rf for focusing, the EV1 will actually be a slower and not as accurate way of focusing. Is that accurate?



Dec 30, 2025 at 06:51 PM
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I’m really surprised to hear this. Is it due to easier focusing because of eye sight? My thought is people with pretty good eyesight, and used to the rf for focusing, the EV1 will actually be a slower and not as accurate way of focusing. Is that accurate?


The EVF is more accurate than the RF since it's showing accurately what the sensor is seeing. Now that I have tried it RF focusing is not as precise. This has nothing to do with eyesight.

Take a look at some reviews (not the group from Italy) such as Overgaards comments about accuracy of the EVF over RF. Also the EVF will not go out of alignment like a RF can do from time to time.

This M EV1 approach has me now considering selling SL cameras, if over time I do not see the need for its IBIS, even though the best optics are admittedly in the SL EVF's. I do have the X2DII system for excellent AF.



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p.8 #11 · Your Leica M EV1 Plans


rsolti13 wrote:
I’m really surprised to hear this. Is it due to easier focusing because of eye sight?


I wonder if this has something to do about eyesight, focusing... Why having a M11M if you sell it for the M-EV1?
One can also wonder if one really need M11P, M11M, use them always with Viso + Q43 & Q28, selling an AF body like a Q for a M with an EV...

To me it looks more like "I have new toy and do not want to play with the old ones anymore".



Dec 30, 2025 at 09:08 PM
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p.8 #12 · Your Leica M EV1 Plans


stgrove wrote:
The EVF is more accurate than the RF since it's showing accurately what the sensor is seeing. Now that I have tried it RF focusing is not as precise. This has nothing to do with eyesight.

Take a look at some reviews (not the group from Italy) such as Overgaards comments about accuracy of the EVF over RF. Also the EVF will not go out of alignment like a RF can do from time to time.

This M EV1 approach has me now considering selling SL cameras, if over time I do not see the need for its IBIS, even though the
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Do you use focus magnification as a focusing aid with the EV1? That's the part that really slows me down when I'm using an EVF (mirrorless camera) or the Visoflex. It works great with modern well-corrected lenses, but I find it less accurate with vintage glass where contrast and resolution don't always line up. In those cases, tools like focus peaking tend to lock onto the highest contrast, not necessarily the highest resolving point. With the rangefinder, I actually get more consistent results when shooting those less-perfect lenses.

For example, I get much better focusing accuracy with lenses like the Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux pre-asph, 50mm f/1.5 Summarit, 50mm f/1 Noctilux, and 90mm f/2.2 Thambar when I'm using the rangefinder, as long as the camera and lens are perfectly calibrated.



Dec 30, 2025 at 10:38 PM
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p.8 #13 · Your Leica M EV1 Plans


Fred Miranda wrote:
Do you use focus magnification as a focusing aid with the EV1? That's the part that really slows me down when I'm using an EVF (mirrorless camera) or the Visoflex. It works great with modern well-corrected lenses, but I find it less accurate with vintage glass where contrast and resolution don't always line up. In those cases, tools like focus peaking tend to lock onto the highest contrast, not necessarily the highest resolving point. With the rangefinder, I actually get more consistent results when shooting those less-perfect lenses.

For example, I get much better focusing accuracy with lenses like the
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My longest experience is with Visoflex and an M rangefinder. Sometimes I was faster with the rangefinder, sometimes with the Visoflex. But I was never more accurate with the rangefinder than with a Visoflex, especially with 35mm and longer. I do not understand how that could be.



Dec 30, 2025 at 11:02 PM
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p.8 #14 · Your Leica M EV1 Plans


SrMi wrote:
My longest experience is with Visoflex and an M rangefinder. Sometimes I was faster with the rangefinder, sometimes with the Visoflex. But I was never more accurate with the rangefinder than with a Visoflex, especially with 35mm and longer. I do not understand how that could be.


It comes down to spherical aberration. With the lenses I mentioned above, the under-corrected design means resolution and contrast don't peak at the same point in the focal plane. You basically have to decide whether to focus for maximum contrast or maximum resolving sharpness. With an EVF, we usually end up relying on tools that bias toward the contrast peak. With the rangefinder, those aberrations aren't part of what we're seeing, so it drives the lens to true geometric focus and consistently lands on maximum resolution, which is what actually matters.

If you mostly shoot modern, well-corrected glass, both EVF and RF can be accurate, but with an EVF you still have to magnify for critical focus. That extra step takes time, and if you're used to the rhythm of RF focusing, it can actually feel slower in practice. In the end, the right camera is the one that makes you want to shoot, because joy is the sharpest focus of all.




Dec 30, 2025 at 11:22 PM
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I think it is a personal thing. I tested the EV-1 for two days weeks apart. I found that I enjoyed the workflow and had a higher hit rate with my Range Finder M11. I know two photographers here that have the exact opposite experience. It may come down to what I am used to. I shoot my M11 pretty much every day and dislike the VisoFlex so much I never use mine.


Dec 31, 2025 at 12:31 AM
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p.8 #16 · Your Leica M EV1 Plans


Fred Miranda wrote:
It comes down to spherical aberration. With the lenses I mentioned above, the under-corrected design means resolution and contrast don't peak at the same point in the focal plane. You basically have to decide whether to focus for maximum contrast or maximum resolving sharpness. With an EVF, we usually end up relying on tools that bias toward the contrast peak. With the rangefinder, those aberrations aren't part of what we're seeing, so it drives the lens to true geometric focus and consistently lands on maximum resolution, which is what actually matters.

If you mostly shoot modern, well-corrected glass, both EVF
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Interesting point about SA wrt to focusing aids. I never gave any consideration to that before. Personally, I haven't found a lot of focusing aids (other than magnification) that I like ... never found them to be consistently accurate. But, then I was shooting (looking retrospectively) glass that was a bit under-corrected (by rendering choice). Kinda makes sense now (after the fact).

I also found the inverse to be true, where I'd get "too much" from the focusing aid being indicated as in focus ... such, that it is difficult to actually know where the plane of focus really is / isn't. Here again, you're point about understanding that the optic may be contributing to how the focusing aid responds ... light bulb comes on a bit, as to why my experience with them was inconsistent across my glass. The fact that I have been using different levels of correction in different optics, could very well be the "variable" that was driving that inconsistency in experience.


As it turns out, I picked up my old Nikon FE with ground glass only yesterday (just playing, not shooting) just to see how I liked the feel of it from days of yore. I still find that experience to be my preference, even after shooting rangefinder patch and EVF. Depending on the ground glass that is put in, the experience of how "fuzzy" the view is vs. how much the focal plane "pops" into focus can be varied. While I realize that this requires a mirrored approach in the mechanism ... I certainly found it to be an "old friend" that I wish I could get in today's digital bodies (alas, not happening). I've mentioned before my "vision" that Leica would revise the X-axis partial area patch to a full frame area, Z-axis ground glass experience. Granted, this would require a significant engineering change to drive it, and it isn't going to happen (by choice, not be capability), but one can dream, right.

That said, to Steve's point ... what we learn on goes a long way to what we like.



Dec 31, 2025 at 07:05 AM
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p.8 #17 · Your Leica M EV1 Plans


Fred Miranda wrote:
Do you use focus magnification as a focusing aid with the EV1? That's the part that really slows me down when I'm using an EVF (mirrorless camera) or the Visoflex. It works great with modern well-corrected lenses, but I find it less accurate with vintage glass where contrast and resolution don't always line up. In those cases, tools like focus peaking tend to lock onto the highest contrast, not necessarily the highest resolving point. With the rangefinder, I actually get more consistent results when shooting those less-perfect lenses.

For example, I get much better focusing accuracy with lenses like the
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Yes Fred, many times I use mag but not FP as it just covers over the fine details I want in focus. Also I find adjusting f stop is more clear to me to see the areas I want in or out of focus.




Dec 31, 2025 at 08:45 AM
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p.8 #18 · Your Leica M EV1 Plans


No plans here for EV1, but for EV2, well, who knows?


Dec 31, 2025 at 08:50 AM
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p.8 #19 · Your Leica M EV1 Plans


pmeheut wrote:
I wonder if this has something to do about eyesight, focusing... Why having a M11M if you sell it for the M-EV1?
One can also wonder if one really need M11P, M11M, use them always with Viso + Q43 & Q28, selling an AF body like a Q for a M with an EV...

To me it looks more like "I have new toy and do not want to play with the old ones anymore".


Thanks for your vote of confidence. Are you being nice? No.

My about face is my decision and mine alone J'en est marre de ça.

I have not used my Q3 28 for many, many months and prefer wider than 28 such as 24/1.4 or 21/1/4 lenses and the EV1 is prefect for those lenses.

As for the M11M I often find I prefer adjusting the color sliders to gain what I envision over the M11M files.



Dec 31, 2025 at 08:57 AM
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p.8 #20 · Your Leica M EV1 Plans


stgrove wrote:
Thanks for your vote of confidence. Are you being nice? No.

I do not understand why you react like this. This is a forum where we all buy a lot of gear far beyond the point where it could have any influence on the quality of the pictures we shoot.

So we buy toys, we play with them, when we have a new toy, we want to play more with it. And sometimes, we even produce ok pictures. That's ok: I have shelves full of cameras and lenses I do not use.

And you said it yourself: you bought a lot of cameras you do not use, you bought rangefinder to use them with a not so convenient EVF, a monochrom camera when you prefer color conversion...
So they are clearly not photographic devices and I'm sure a Pen-F or a Fuji would be more enough for you and for most of us.



Dec 31, 2025 at 10:59 AM
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