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raminolta wrote:
I would respond only briefly because I don't want to waste my life arguing with strangers online, lol. I did not say no information is lost. Of course, when you project an image with 15 stops of DR on a monitor with lower DR, some information is lost. However, that does not mean the entire advance of the sensor with 15 stops of DR is gone away. Through, proper tone mapping, a lot of the details that are available in the highlights and shadows can be compressed and shown on the monitor. If one starts with a n image file containing 15 stops of DR, the result can vastly differ from the result when one starts with an image that contains only 10 stops of DR. The difference can be depicted even on a monitor which has only 10 stops of DR.
Regarding weight scenario, again you only comparing one system with a number of lenses to another system with a number of lens which may not be application to everyone For example, if someone only carries one body + one lens at a time, say a normal lens, the difference is slight or perhaps nonexistent. Not everybody carries a bag of a camera plus multiple lenses at the same time. . The difference between
Example:
A7c r (429g) + Sony 40mm or 50mm G lens (173g) = 602g
OM5ii (418g) + OM 17mm (120g) or OM 25mm (156g) = 574g or 538g depending on the lens.
While there is a difference, it is too small to be factor to matter from a practical point of view for someone who alm,ost enver carry more than one lens with him/her.
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To respond in kind - I also do not want this debate, however educational, to continue ad infinitum, I have much better things to do at this busy time. However I do want to point out that much of what you (and Ruthenium) are saying whilst technically correct, does not relate to a substantial difference in the real world.
This is why you are incorrect on your previous statement (sorry, incorrectly assigned, I meant that of Ruthenium) of the A7r5 substantially out-performing the OM-3 (the camera I used most) in a basement club BTS. Regardless of what you think your (Ruthenium's - sorry again I've mixed a number of posts together) science is telling you I am the one who shot and processed the many images and the f1.2 lenses on the OM-3 performed very well and up to the level of the A7r5 with f1.4 lenses, after processing (which I mentioned and Ruthenium ignored).
As I stated Ford vs Ferrari and both got to the destination. The only criteria was a final image devoid of noise and without substantial degradation that would negatively affect the image to the extent people would notice (zero degradation being impossible when shooting at those ISOs). The benefit of today's superlative post processing software (I used Topaz Denoise Ai for those images, normally ON1's built in NR is more than sufficient).
As for the weight comparison I'll refer you back to the OP. The kit I built, as an example, and that is demonstrably impossible for Sony to match in size or weight, was a kit for Chiron (street, travel, land/cityscapes and portraits - which just happen to be exactly those genres I shoot) and the size/weight comparison post was a follow up to that discussion.
When I shot Nikon DSLRs my travel kit weighed 14 kgs, and that was the reason why I was an early adopter of Sony's ML. My Sony kit reduced that to 8-9 kgs (smaller everything from filters to tripods to bags). As I aged I wanted to lose more weight (both me and my kit!) and hence a toe in the M43 water became full immersion - it delivers and for me is ridiculously enjoyable to use with by far the best, demonstrably and factually, IBIS and WR of any mainstream manufacturer (except for Lumix that is close if not equal). My full travel kit now being 5-6 kgs (2x cameras, 7-8 lenses, tripod, ballhead, filters and backpack or sling).
If we want to go down the route of building an infinite number of kits based on spurious parameters then I'm sure Sony could come close in some instances, but most definitely not the majority which is more relevant to Chiron and anyone looking for a kit that still delivers but at a considerable weight saving.
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