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I’ve never closely followed a fixed-lens camera release before, but this one clearly drew a lot of attention. It’s great to see how much passion the community still has for this segment. Hopefully, Canon and Nikon will jump in and add to the excitement.

Personally, I’ve found that one lens is often all I need. For over three years, I’ve shot primarily with the GM 50mm f/1.2, and it’s given me more memorable shots and keepers than any other lens I’ve used. Interestingly, it’s not even my favorite in terms of rendering.



Aug 02, 2025 at 09:10 PM
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p.46 #2 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!


FYI Adobe added RX1r.3 support with the latest update for Adobe Camera Raw (version 17.4.2).

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/camera-raw-17-4-2/td-p/15438621



Aug 02, 2025 at 11:34 PM
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p.46 #3 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!


InFocus2014 wrote:
I’m sorry this photo evokes such a negative reaction. If I could retract this string, I would do so. I recommend that you just move-on. You have clearly made your point. I really do not think I deserve continuous flogging over a simple dang photograph and personal point-of-view. At the end of the day, nobody really cares about the point I was trying to make, or for that matter, my photo.

Please excuse me if I gave the impression that I was attacking you personally. That wasn't my intention, and I don't even know why. A photo left me perplexed, and I tried to get to the bottom of it. In the end, I guess I overshot the mark. Once again, I apologize. Please don't take it to heart, and especially don't take it personally.



Aug 03, 2025 at 12:51 AM
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p.46 #4 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!


For some reason, I still can’t open those files in LR All apps and plug‑ins are updated to the latest version.


Aug 03, 2025 at 02:11 AM
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InFocus2014 wrote:
I’m sorry this photo evokes such a negative reaction. If I could retract this string, I would do so. I recommend that you just move-on. You have clearly made your point. I really do not think I deserve continuous flogging over a simple dang photograph and personal point-of-view. At the end of the day, nobody really cares about the point I was trying to make, or for that matter, my photo.


I want to say I appreciate your contribution and I am glad you weighed in. Not many people have owned both the Leica Q3 and the Sony RX1r II, so hearing your thoughts about the two cameras was valuable. Thank you for sharing them. As far as the photo, it is the photo of a cat. I don't expect such a photo to be high art, and it did illustrate nicely the look you might get in some situations with the Leica Q3. Thank you for sharing it. I appreciate in general your contribution to FM and I appreciate Nifty Fifty's graciousness in responding to what you wrote above.



Aug 03, 2025 at 06:27 AM
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p.46 #6 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!


rob_ww wrote:
We are missing one high-quality, compact, f2.0 aperture 28 or 35 lens for the A7 -- one step away from taking this discussion to a different level. But in all these years, no-one has made such a lens, so I doubt it is coming soon. In the meantime the RX1R III is the best alternative.

I have been waiting for a quality 28mm f2 lens ever since I bought the original A7 and eventually moved away from the Leica M system. I really don't know why Sony or any of the third party makers have never released one. I tried the original Sony FE28 but it really is somewhat soo so and really dated now



Aug 03, 2025 at 06:46 AM
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p.46 #7 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!


Viltrox made a 28mm f1.8 with AF. Seems to be pretty well regarded. Has an MSRP of $380 USD, but can probably be found for much less.

https://viltrox.com/products/viltrox-af-28mm-f1-8-full-frame-lens-for-sony-e-mount?srsltid=AfmBOoqSD6eVVKoU7uLGW2UfbP0qskB6MlcaWv1PbENg2Vheo8BeNTWs

One of my favorite photographers, Adrien Sanguinetti, had a video review of the lens. I'm sure there are others.

?si=60YNOkSYrG43UQjf


Viramati wrote:
I have been waiting for a quality 28mm f2 lens ever since I bought the original A7 and eventually moved away from the Leica M system. I really don't know why Sony or any of the third party makers have never released one. I tried the original Sony FE28 but it really is somewhat soo so and really dated now




Aug 03, 2025 at 07:17 AM
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Viramati wrote:
I have been waiting for a quality 28mm f2 lens ever since I bought the original A7 and eventually moved away from the Leica M system. I really don't know why Sony or any of the third party makers have never released one. I tried the original Sony FE28 but it really is somewhat soo so and really dated now


Would you be ok with a manual focus lens? If you would I have the Voigtlander 28 f/1.5 in Sony E mount and I really like it, and it is pretty small. Voigtlander just came out with a 28 f/2 APO for Leica M mount that is exceptional optically (see Fred's review) and I think we may get that in Sony E mount within the next year as well. So, Cosina (who makes Voigtlander) seems to have begun to address the need for a quality 28mm.

In addition Thypoch has brought out their Simera 28 f/1.4 in Sony E mount (it doesn't have electrical contacts, however). Several people on the forum like that manual focus lens as well and it seems to be a quality performer as well. Fred has a review of that lens on Leica M mount as well.



Aug 03, 2025 at 07:20 AM
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Would you be ok with a manual focus lens? If you would I have the Voigtlander 28 f/1.5 in Sony E mount and I really like it, and it is pretty small. Voigtlander just came out with a 28 f/2 APO for Leica M mount that is exceptional optically (see Fred's review) and I think we may get that in Sony E mount within the next year as well. So, Cosina (who makes Voigtlander) seems to have begun to address the need for a quality 28mm.

In addition Thypoch has brought out their Simera 28 f/1.4 in Sony E
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No not in this case as one of the whole reason for me to possess high end Sony cameras is the AF system. 28mm has always been my most used focal length starting back in the late 70's with the Olympus OM system then Nikon, Leica and now I have the Q2 monochrom which goes everywhere with me.


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Aug 03, 2025 at 07:35 AM
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Viramati wrote:
No not in this case as one of the whole reason of me to possess high end Sony cameras is the AF system. 28mm has always been my most used focal length starting back in the late 70's with the Olympus OM system then Nikon, Leica and now I have the Q2 monochrom which goes everywhere with me.


there is always the cv 28 APO with an AF m-adapter on thin sensor modded sony. fred seems to indicate that the AF works pretty well on modern sonys, no experience myself.



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there is always the cv 28 APO with an AF m-adapter on thin sensor modded sony. fred seems to indicate that the AF works pretty well on modern sonys, no experience myself.

Indeed there are options but all the same it is a mystery to me why Sony or and other makers have not released a high quality FE lens as the only native mount one available is the original FE 28/f2 lens released in in 2015



Aug 03, 2025 at 07:50 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
I often hear photographers comparing the RX1 series to the Q series, but honestly, aside from both having built-in lenses, they belong in completely different categories. Size really is the key here. Once you see in hands, shoot with it, and carry it around, you realize there's nothing else like the RX1. It's the smallest full-frame camera of its kind (built-in lens). The difference in size is huge compared to the Q2, which is actually closer to the size of a Leica M...

What some people miss is that the RX1's main strength is exactly that...giving you a full-frame sensor
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No doubt an important way to characterize fixed lens cameras is by size, but when I do I see three clear sizes:

1) As small as possible - and here we have phone cameras and the Richo GR series that can fit in most pockets.

2) Mid sized - these are clearly bigger than as small as possible and don't fit in most pockets, but clearly smaller than most interchangeable lens cameras (ILCs) -- and here we have the Fuji X100 and the Sony RX1R which are almost the same size.

3) Almost ILC sized -- and here we have the Leica Q3's and the Fuji GF100RF.

But I think another way to characterize fixed lens cameras is by price, and when we do I see three clear price tiers:

1) Essentially free - I think this is what most people who use their phone as a fixed lens camera see it as they would have bought it anyway and they alway have it in their pocket.

2) Moderate - here we have the Ricoh GR and Fuji X100 - at around $1,000 ish in price.

3) Luxury - here we have the cameras that cost more than $5,000 and that includes the Leica Q3s, the Fuji GF 100RF, and the RX1R III.

If you just segment this market into size and price in this way, you see that a lot of the market is getting sucked into the small as possible and free cell phone camera segment. We know this has happened on a massive scale. Enough so it wasn't clear there was any market left for fixed lens cameras.

What I find interesting is that in the last couple of years the luxury price segment has seemed to grow at least in products if not in sales. Leica, then Fuji, and now Sony seem to think there is a market there. What is this market? It seems to me Leica and Fuji are approaching this market by offering their fixed lens cameras as a way for photographers to have a piece of their high end cameras. You can almost have a Leica M with a Leica Q. You can get a medium format sensor with a Fuji GF 100RF. Leica and Fuji haven't really focussed on small, but on creating a bit of the experience of using their high end systems. It seems that for both these companies part of the strategy could include getting the fixed lens camera might entice people to get more high end gear. You start with a Leica Q, but that naturally leads to a Leica M or a Leica SL. You start with the Fuji GF100RF, but that leads to a GF 100S II, and a bunch of GF lenses.

Sony seems to be going a different direction. The RX1R III isn't that much like their current ILCs. Instead it stands out by being smaller. I don't see it as likely to lead many people into buying an A1 II or a A9 III. Perhaps their strategy is to get people to use it along side their ILCs, but I don't see it as leading them into higher end gear. If you care primarily about size and you want a high end/high price fixed lens camera then the RX1R III seems like the clear choice. Sony seems to think there is a decent market of such people. We will see by how this camera sells whether they are right.



Aug 03, 2025 at 07:56 AM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
Sony seems to be going a different direction. The RX1R III isn't that much like their current ILCs. Instead it stands out by being smaller. I don't see it as likely to lead many people into buying an A1 II or a A9 III. Perhaps their strategy is to get people to use it along side their ILCs, but I don't see it as leading them into higher end gear. If you care primarily about size and you want a high end/high price fixed lens camera then the RX1R III seems like the clear choice. Sony seems to think
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Since I already owned an a7cR, the RX1R MkIII is now extending that reach and replacing not only Sony APS-C, but also the Fuji X-E line. The RX1 offers incredible IQ in a very small package, 35mm to 105mm. At social events and with the second to none AF, people won't really notice me taking pictures w/o flash since I can go to ISO 12400 (likely more) w/o much (if any after Enhance in LR) noise. Never thought this would happen. Price? Someone willing to pay USD3.400 10 years ago will pay USD 5.000 today. Initially I was reluctant because of the price. But When I was able to trade in my RX1R MkII for more than I paid for it, I couldn't resist. Canceled my Fuji X-E5 pre-order. Intended to use that as small set-up with the 23f2 and crop. But the RX1R MkIII delivers better quality and has the "Replay" button, in fact all controls, where I want them :-)



Aug 03, 2025 at 08:20 AM
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p.46 #14 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!


Exactly the same. It looks like Camera Raw did not include the RX1Riii, despite the release claiming it.

Ed

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html



Aug 04, 2025 at 12:50 AM
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p.46 #15 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!


Well, I learnt something today. Lightroom Classic has a built-in Camera Raw that does not update when Camera Raw is updated, according to the Adobe Forum. It will be in the next update for LR, apparently.

Ed



Aug 04, 2025 at 02:30 AM
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DPReview Gold Award


Aug 04, 2025 at 01:28 PM
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Constable wrote:
Well, I learnt something today. Lightroom Classic has a built-in Camera Raw that does not update when Camera Raw is updated, according to the Adobe Forum. It will be in the next update for LR, apparently.

Ed


Yeah - I didn't know that either. I can open the files with Ps, which has the latest, but not with Lr.



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hncc.photo wrote:
For some reason, I still can’t open those files in LR All apps and plug‑ins are updated to the latest version.


Camera Raw is on 17.4.2, which can open them. This is what Ps uses.

Lr is still on 17.4, so it won't work, but likely will with the next update.



Aug 04, 2025 at 03:23 PM
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architekt wrote:
I think the lens design patent for both Q3 and Q3 43 are designed by Panasonic optic engineers. I think Leica probably give a large sum of money to Panasonic to not release a LUMIX Q.


prove your statement , you cannot of course but its fun to make things up i guess?



Aug 04, 2025 at 05:18 PM
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vertigo1959 wrote:
prove your statement , you cannot of course but its fun to make things up i guess?


This is the patent for Leica Q's 28mm lens, designed by Tomoko Iiyama and Masafumi Sueyoshi and assigned to Panasonic Intellectual Property Management Co Ltd
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160266350A1/en?oq=15160812

Leica Q's SUMMILUX 28mm f/1.7 ASPH Lens schematic design used to be on Leica's website, but was recently pulled, but I am happy Ken Rockwell kept a copy in his review (in the mid section of the review).
https://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/q2.htm

This the patent for Leica Q3 43's 43mm lens, also assigned to Panasonic (Google translate works well enough for design patents like this)
https://www.j-platpat.inpit.go.jp/c1801/PU/JP-2024-038542/11/ja

Leica Q3 43's lens schematic design can be found in Q3 43's technical data download section
https://leica-camera.com/en-US/photography/cameras/q/q3-43-black/downloads?

All the patent data is either from Google Patent or Japanese patent agency. I tried to cite Q3 and Q3 43's official lens design schematic from official source, but Q3's technical data was missing from Leica's official website, so I have to find a third party source.

You can compare lens schematic design and simulated MTF chart between these Panasonic patents and Leica's published data sheets yourself.

It is pretty common for camera manufactures to outsource low end lens design to a different company, Tamron designed a lot of low end lens for Sony and Nikon. Leica do design their high end product such as 35AA or 50AA in house.

From the schematic, design of these two lenses are very similar in style, especially where APSH elements are located. in general, design is a lot more complex compared to Zeiss ZX1.

Did I answer your question? Did I provide enough envidences showing that I am at least not completely making things up?

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