p.26 #1 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!
moby59 wrote:
Same idea here: I don't see how a digital stabilization could work on stills.
The pictures in the video are nothing exceptional.
If you are steady shooter, and even more, if you have a way to push the camera against something still (pole, bench...) you can achieve that sort of slow shutter speeds without any stabilization.
The B&H ad has been edited, it is now more than a minute shorter and does not talk about stabilization anymore :-) I imagine that they were a little bit too happy by the money they got by Sony... and went a little too far.
Thanks for posting. I too see the stabilization chapter from the originally posted B&H video has now been removed which tells us it was indeed an error. But it was fun to think of the possibilities, at least for a minute 😎
p.26 #6 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!
bwcolor wrote:
I raise this topic in that many seem to express a concern that Sony seems to have slowed innovation and is now using off the shelf technology and components(like the unmodified 35mm Sonnar lens). This circles back to price and many prefer to pay for proven technology/features that are widely available with other cameras.
Leica recently re-issued a 1960s-designed lens, the 35mm "Steel Rim". It costs almost as much as the RX1III and seems to be selling well. It can be put in front of the 60 megapixel sensor on the Leica M11. I think there's something different about the way we should think about lenses versus electronics.
p.26 #7 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!
On a separate note, I see that the resolution can be set to 60 MP, 29 MP and 15 MP. If it works the same as APS-C crop on recent Sonys, shooting at 29 MP would mean that both the 35mm and 50mm crops would be 29 MP. Shooting at 15 MP would mean all three crops would produce a 15 MP file.
Of course, it might not work that way. I'll be interested to see.
p.26 #8 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!
kenthomson wrote:
Leica recently re-issued a 1960s-designed lens, the 35mm "Steel Rim". It costs almost as much as the RX1III and seems to be selling well. It can be put in front of the 60 megapixel sensor on the Leica M11. I think there's something different about the way we should think about lenses versus electronics.
The lens can not only be attached, but also removed. Above all, with the M Leica is selling a myth that Sony never had and never will, and now stands more for lifestyle and luxury than for photography, while Sony stands for pure, cutting-edge technology. Whatever the case, let's wait until Leica releases a Q with a fixed Steel Rim before making inappropriate comparisons.
p.26 #10 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!
Sharif Abdou wrote:
I'm also curious about the EVF. On paper it's similar to the EVF in the A7c.2/A7cR, though with smaller magnification. Is it tolerable?
Closest thing I could find off the top of my head was the Fuji X-E3, which was fine by me. Maybe the refresh rate has improved, but I'm not sure.
Fujifilm X-E3: 0.39-inch 2.36 million-dot OLED panel, 100% coverage, 0.62x magnification, eye point 17.5mm from eyepiece (not sure whether that's the lens or frame)
RX1R III: 0.39-inch 2.36 million-dot XGA OLED panel, 100% coverage, 0.70x magnification, eye point 22 mm from eyepiece lens, 17.9mm from eyepiece frame
p.26 #11 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!
I'm hoping that since Sony apparently doesn't consider the RX1RIII a competitor to the A7cR, they'll refresh the 28 f/2 into a smaller/sharper package, which would pair great with the A7cR IMO, and provide a small f/2 lens. Plus, I'd rather have 28mm than 35mm for a fixed lens anyways.
p.26 #12 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!
kenthomson wrote:
On a separate note, I see that the resolution can be set to 60 MP, 29 MP and 15 MP. If it works the same as APS-C crop on recent Sonys, shooting at 29 MP would mean that both the 35mm and 50mm crops would be 29 MP. Shooting at 15 MP would mean all three crops would produce a 15 MP file.
Of course, it might not work that way. I'll be interested to see.
The RAW sizes available on the other 61MP cameras are 61, 26, and 15, which have nothing to do with cropping. I believe they're using pixel binning to achieve that. The 61/29/15 are what results with the crop modes (35/50/70mm) shooting large RAWs. If you shoot M or S RAW, then the resulting MP count with the crop mode will be significantly smaller.
p.26 #13 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!
I thought the EVF was clear and fine. AF similar to newer sony bodies.
Buttons and all feel haptically great. Material is grippy so I probably won't get the grip or case or thumb attachment. Just a filter and no hood.
The store let me take some size comparison photos of the C series with a small lens next to it. In hand it's quite noticeable, the C series feels bulky.
I went to Yodobashi camera section afterwards to try all of the new cameras and the closest camera I could compare it to size was the m43 Olympus Pen F.
weezintrumpete wrote:
Any other immediate impressions? How does the evf look in person? How is the af?
p.26 #16 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!
It's the 28-60 ff which is similar size to the 40 2.5 g. The sigma 35 f2 isn't in the same volume class at all imo, so I didn't mount one similar to those dimensions.
If resolution didn't really matter the original A7C with the 40 2.5 is probably closest in terms of size for full frame compact.
If you happen to be traveling the price seems to be $4,500 via tax free.
p.26 #17 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!
I hope the reviews would be promising. For an edc premium compact I'd expect nothing less than a very rugged camera built to last, endlessly thrown in and out of the bag and suit many environments. Something you don't need to baby and used to ones content. Alas the previous versions been plagued with issues so much that people have selling it for lack of longevity. I hope this new version has fixed those issue given it's 10yr hiatus
p.26 #18 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!
Since this thread came out, I've been using my RX1rII and getting to learn the features and shoot with it. It is a totally different experience than the A7CR and significantly smaller, with a higher quality feel. Closer to a Leica M camera feel than other Sony cameras.
Besides the size and the obvious advances in sensor and autofocus, switching between the cameras, I immediately notice the autofocus motors of newer lenses on the A7CR are dramatically faster and silent. I also noticed that the tactile feel of the RX1 and the Zeiss lens is really nice and it is possible to get a mechanical focusing ring if you go to infinity and use the macro ring.
Bottom line. If you take the time to learn how to use the RX1rII, it is still a great camera if you mostly take composed shots, and like to use autofocus assist. However, if I was going for a mini-A1, I wouldn't consider it and would get reach for the A7CR, which I use as a second body to the A1.
Thanks for the thread. It has really inspired me to take the time to fiddle with the RX1RII. I spent about the same getting both an RX1RII (used) and the A7CR as the new RX1RIII. It is worth considering the RX1RII for anyone upset about the cost of the RX1RIII. Also, due to the unique aspects of the RX1RIII, it is still a dream compact 35mm that is smaller than anything else.
p.26 #19 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!
Didnt notice any noise or lag with the AF system or lens during quick racks on the M3 (was pretty instant) but I'll double check if I visit another Sony store and compare it to the A1ii or A9iii
