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p.13 #1 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


@gammarART I only have the CV APO-50. The Leica APO 50 is an amazing lens, but unfortunately it's beyond my budget.


Jul 31, 2025 at 04:15 AM
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p.13 #2 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


Looks like an interesting lens. Cheaper than the Leica Elmarit too, which is the only Leica lens I have. Still, it's heavier and larger and I can't find it for sale in Austria, Germany or Holland.


Jul 31, 2025 at 04:19 AM
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p.13 #3 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


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Today is my third day using the APO 28, and I'm still amazed at what a great lens it is. My first impressions are very positive. But now comes the hardest part: deciding whether to keep the new APO 28 as a great addition to my existing APO 50, or to keep my current Nokton 28/1.5. Has anyone else faced a similar dilemma? How did you decide?


Where did you buy it?



Jul 31, 2025 at 04:20 AM
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I'm from the Czech Republic, so this is probably not applicable anywhere else and not relevant.

Just a small observation for interest's sake. I assumed that the lens hood from the APO28 would also work on the APO50 and that I would use it on this lens, as I don't want to have it attached to the APO28. Unfortunately, this is not the case and this lens hood cannot be attached to the APO50



Jul 31, 2025 at 04:40 AM
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jhonzatko wrote:
Today is my third day using the APO 28, and I'm still amazed at what a great lens it is. My first impressions are very positive. But now comes the hardest part: deciding whether to keep the new APO 28 as a great addition to my existing APO 50, or to keep my current Nokton 28/1.5. Has anyone else faced a similar dilemma? How did you decide?


Optics are almost always a series of quid pro quo in one regard or another ...

I've been shooting my Q2 and watching the 28mm segment unfold for a while now. Elmarit, Summicron, Summilux, Ultron, Nokton, APO, Thypoch, etc. From technical matters to aesthetic rendering to haptics to $$$ there are a plethora of aspects under consideration that you can get wrapped around the axle about.

I think we now have what I'd consider a "complete" set of choices, ranging from the very small to the very lovely to the very technical. Figuring out what combination is right for you can be a bit tricky. Here's how I see the options in approach.

1) Own more than one lens of the same focal length, for different reasons.

2) Own one of the lenses that sits a bit more "middle of the road" among attributes.

3) Own more than one for a period of time and wait / watch to see what your use case is, then let the other go.

4) Own the matched set to the APO, etc.

5) Mix / match with a near focal length (i.e. 28 Nokton + 35 APO vs. 28 APO + 35 Cron). In my case, I've got the 35 Cron ASPH and the 28 APO would be the complement replacement to my Q2 (superb lens rendering, but I'dl prefer less distortion) and the 50 VM Nok, so that three different renderings (technical, middle, aesthetic) are spread across three diff focal lengths. This is of course, the opposite of matching lens renderings (i.e. all Cron's or all APO's, etc.).


Some of this lands in the realm of left side / right side of the brain decision making. If you KNOW what it is you are after, then your brain should dictate to you what that is. If you don't KNOW what it is ... then, keep both until your HEART TELLS YOU which one you DON'T want to part with. Then, you can let the other one go.


Me, I'm right there with ya ... tough call with so many options. Personally, I think the decision between the VM APO and the Nokton comes down to size / blockage. The rendering of each is close enough in aesthetic that the bokeh quality is still very nice for the APO, and the fringing of the Nokton isn't so terrible that I'd hate owning it. (Fringing from Voigt has been a pain point for me). That said ... if you're needing the corners, I think the APO tips the scales.

Which, then begs the question of when do I need the corners (for real). And, in those use cases, does the size / weight / blockage matter, etc. ... ad nauseum.




Recommendation ... DON'T be in a HURRY to decide. Just keep both for however long it takes till your bag gives you the answer.

HTH





Jul 31, 2025 at 06:43 AM
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RustyBug wrote:
Optics are almost always a series of quid pro quo in one regard or another ...

I've been shooting my Q2 and watching the 28mm segment unfold for a while now. Elmarit, Summicron, Summilux, Ultron, Nokton, APO, Thypoch, etc. From technical matters to aesthetic rendering to haptics to $$$ there are a plethora of aspects under consideration that you can get wrapped around the axle about.

I think we now have what I'd consider a "complete" set of choices, ranging from the very small to the very lovely to the very technical. Figuring out what combination is right for you
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I`ll be in this spot very shortly, I have been happy with my Ultron 28 II but corners i tend to need (hip shooting etc) but i`m in no rush to sell either one, i`ll keep it for a few months and see what happens... First thing i`ll be doing with this APO 28 is sticking a focussing tab on, I just wish Voigtlander included them





Jul 31, 2025 at 08:00 AM
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Optics are almost always a series of quid pro quo in one regard or another ...

I've been shooting my Q2 and watching the 28mm segment unfold for a while now. Elmarit, Summicron, Summilux, Ultron, Nokton, APO, Thypoch, etc. From technical matters to aesthetic rendering to haptics to $$$ there are a plethora of aspects under consideration that you can get wrapped around the axle about.

I think we now have what I'd consider a "complete" set of choices, ranging from the very small to the very lovely to the very technical. Figuring out what combination is right for you
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Sound Advice. I'm a Sony user and have the Nokton, but also shoot a lot of architectural work and will certainly pick up the 28mm APO when it comes out in e-mount. I like the Nokton a lot and use it for mostly B&W work where things like purple fringing are less of an issue.



Jul 31, 2025 at 09:42 AM
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Reminds me how the whole premise of Breaking Bad would make no sense in Germany as Walter‘s cancer treatment would be paid for, as would the college for his kids. Different concepts of society

What does it have to do with the 28mm APO again? Sounds like a topic for a different thread. Different forum actually..


I was only responding to the post above mine. Government gets their money one way or another and nothing is “free”.



Jul 31, 2025 at 10:40 AM
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RustyBug wrote:
Today is my third day using the APO 28, and I'm still amazed at what a great lens it is. My first impressions are very positive. But now comes the hardest part: deciding whether to keep the new APO 28 as a great addition to my existing APO 50, or to keep my current Nokton 28/1.5. Has anyone else faced a similar dilemma? How did you decide?


Great post. I agree that having more choices often leads to more confusion and indecision about what to carry or own. Detailed reviews with real results, samples, and tests can be more helpful than videos that focus mostly on personal opinions.

Me, I'm right there with ya ... tough call with so many options. Personally, I think the decision between the VM APO and the Nokton comes down to size / blockage. The rendering of each is close enough in aesthetic that the bokeh quality is still very nice for the APO, and the fringing of the Nokton isn't so terrible that I'd hate owning it. (Fringing from Voigt has been a pain point for me). That said ... if you're needing the corners, I think the APO tips the scales.

I'd have to respectfully disagree here...the rendering difference between the 28/1.5 Nokton and the 28/2 APO is more than subtle. They're easy to distinguish even in casual sample comparisons. The 28 APO delivers a far more corrected and refined look: CA correction is in a completely different league (virtually absent on the APO), and bokeh transitions are smoother, cleaner, and more neutral. The Nokton leans into a more classic and structured rendering (which I love), with stronger outlining and some visible fringing wide open. Now, if you had said the APO is close to the Ultron, I would completely agree. Those differences are much smaller.

As for viewfinder blockage, they're about the same without hoods. But from a rendering standpoint, they only begin to look somewhat similar when stopped down...and even then, the APO maintains its edge in overall precision and refinement. The Nokton gives you that unique f/1.5 blur, yes, but it comes with its own trade-offs.

5) Mix / match with a near focal length (i.e. 28 Nokton + 35 APO vs. 28 APO + 35 Cron). In my case, I've got the 35 Cron ASPH and the 28 APO would be the complement replacement to my Q2 (superb lens rendering, but I'dl prefer less distortion) and the 50 VM Nok, so that three different renderings (technical, middle, aesthetic) are spread across three diff focal lengths.

As capable as the Q2's 28mm f/1.7 lens is, with the mandatory software distortion correction, it's not on the same level optically as the CV 28/2 APO. Yes, both have a modern signature, but there are clear differences beyond distortion. Edge-to-edge sharpness, microcontrast, CA handling, and overall technical rendering (setting aside subjective preferences) all favor the APO. That said, I get your point that in real world images, both have a modern look and produce beautiful results. My point is that although modern lenses can look similar, there are still noticeable differences for those of us who care about these details.



Jul 31, 2025 at 11:07 AM
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I'm in almost the exact same boat—my APO 28 is arriving tomorrow, and I'm already trying to justify keeping it alongside my 28mm Summilux f/1.4.

If the APO lives up to the hype, my plan is to keep both. Here's my thinking, which might apply to your Nokton situation as well:

Different Tools for Different Jobs. I see the APO as the lens for technical precision. For architecture, landscapes, or group shots, having that perfect corner-to-corner performance and flat field is a massive advantage. On the other hand, the Summilux (like your Nokton) has a special character. Its rendering has a way
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I agree with your overall thinking but have found for me, in practice, having separate 'families' of lens types is inconvenient or impractical in normal use. First of all is the problem of deciding ahead of time which to bring on an outing or trip, especially if to a new location or experience where it's uncertain what will be encountered. Or, one could bring a couple 'families' but can still result in day-of uncertainty when heading out.

At least for me, I opted for a 'mixed' family of lenses across the typical M focal length range. I went with fast and (some) character at 28 and 50 (both Luxes) and slower and modern performance at 21, 35 and 90. Over the years I just found that using the M in low light social settings benefitted from having a fast 28, which I prefer for getting more environment in the image than a 35 allows, particularly in relatively tight indoor environments. And a fast 50 is useful for available light portraits or candids from a more truly candid working distance. And these focal lengths are in the M series cameras' 'sweet spot' for rangefinder shooting. Previous to the 28 Lux's release I was drawn to the 21 Lux for indoor social coverage, but found I was cropping it a lot, though on occasion I did like how I could capture so much while in the middle of the action. Most of my 21 use was non-social settings so found that the 21 SEM was a more logical match (yet I still have the 21 Lux for some reason ). At the other end, at 90, even with the 90 Cron AA's relatively good speed, I found it somewhat difficult to use wide open in social settings, so pretty much gave up on 90 and instead use 50 and crop if necessary. 90 is more a daytime stopped down use for me, so the very compact Macro made more sense.

That said, before the 28 Lux I had the 28 Cron v1 and have since acquired a VM 28/2 Ultron v2 and find I often bring it instead of the Lux.

With regard to the VM 28 APO. I'm still on the fence. In your case, keep both it and the Lux for a while to figure out your usage preferences. I don't see any harm in keeping both indefinitely. I'm on the fence because if I'm going to accept that much viewfinder blockage, I might as well bring the Lux for the extra speed while accepting its technical performance tradeoffs for all the times I won't need the speed. But often I don't need the speed and prefer the size of the Ultron. Images posted here from the APO look really amazing, but when I'm using the Ultron stopped down, I'm not convinced the minute technical benefits of the APO will override the degraded user experience (IMO). I'm also still only shooting 24MP. With the 60MP M11, you're likely to see more performance differences between the APO and other 28mm options that may sway your preference towards the APO across a broader range of scenarios.

Whatever the case, it's aways fun to add a new lens, learn its capabilities and potentially upset the state of balance in your current lens kit.

Enjoy!




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p.13 #11 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


Got my 28mm APO on Saturday and now have that, the F1.5 Nokton, and F2 Ultron. For me it's an easy choice to keep the APO and Nokton. I'll be keeping the Nokton for when I need the extra speed on my film bodies. It will be the Ultron that will likely find a new home in the not so distant future.


Jul 31, 2025 at 01:52 PM
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I have 35, 50, and 90mm APO lenses. As great as this 28 APO is - it would make a nice combo with my 50 and 90 - right now I've been happy having more of a character lens at 28 (the Nokton). I can lean on my 35 apo when I need something more technically perfect, at around the same focal length.

The 'what lens to take' issue is a real one, especially when all these lenses are similarly sized. Usually I can at least factor how light or heavy I want to go into the equation, no dice here



Jul 31, 2025 at 01:55 PM
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p.13 #13 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


For those that have this lens and hate the fact that there's no focusing tab, consider tossing one of the 7Artisans Lens focus ring tabs (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1424612-REG/7artisans_photoelectric_ring_f_lens_focus_ring.html)

At first I didn't think it would work given the design of the lens barrel, but so far so good.



Jul 31, 2025 at 04:03 PM
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It works. I use the same focustab on my 40mm Nokton with this barrel design.


Jul 31, 2025 at 04:11 PM
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A couple of quick observations from a few hours on an a7rII UT mod and a7rII full-spectrum mono mod:

On the UT mod, it appears to be everything shown in Fred's use on M11, but I suspect it's a little more prone to flare on the mod. I'll be better able to tell once I meet up with my guy this weekend and we can try it out on his M11. The good news is that controversial hood is useful.

On the bare-sensor FS mono mod it suffers quite a bit on the edges thanks to FC, but it's reasonably good across the frame by f/5.6. It's fine with me since the lens was mostly purchased for the color camera. It will see some use on this one because it is a fantastic IR lens. No hot spots, no reflections (and I did everything I could think of to induce them) even with my cheap Fotga 550-750nm variable IR filter. That's a nice bonus.



Jul 31, 2025 at 04:44 PM
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jhonzatko wrote:
Today is my third day using the APO 28, and I'm still amazed at what a great lens it is. My first impressions are very positive. But now comes the hardest part: deciding whether to keep the new APO 28 as a great addition to my existing APO 50, or to keep my current Nokton 28/1.5. Has anyone else faced a similar dilemma? How did you decide?


I have put together a few kits over the years and here is what I did and my current plan.

When I first had a Leica M10 my kit was a 16-21 f/4 WATE, 28 lux, 50 cron APO, and 90 cron APO. This was a lovely kit in many ways. I liked having the WATE especially for architecture, but I never was fully satisfied with its performance. I loved having the 28 lux and I liked its character a lot, but it was pretty big and I found the finder blockage a problem. The 50 cron APO was great for a lot of my shooting, but I never really liked it that much for portraits and that was a problem for a 50 and especially a problem paired with the 90 cron APO which was ok for portraits, but never exactly what I wanted either.

This kit was stolen, so it took me a few years to get a Leica M10 again. When I did I switched it up and got the 21 SEM, the 28 cron v1, the 50 lux Asph, and the 90 Elmarit. This too was a great kit but it had a different set of strengths and weaknesses. I loved the performance of the 21 SEM, but I wished at times I had a wider lens. I generally liked the 28 cron v1, but I didn't use it as much as I expected to use it. It was adequate but the character didn't speak to me in the way the 28 lux did. The 50 lux Asph, was a favorite of mine especially for portraits and it did alright at everything else, but it too annoyed me at times especially its propensity to flaw when used shooting into the sun and sometimes the ninja star out of focus highlights when stopped down. I felt much the same about the 90 Elmarit as I did about the 28 cron v1, it was adequate and inoffensive, but it never inspired me to use it.

Fast forward to today and I am building my kit again. I got divorced a couple of years ago and ended up selling my Leica kit to help cover the substantial cost of that. Now I am shooting mirrorless again (never really stopped actually) with the Sony A7r V, with which I am very happy. I like the larger body, like Ron argued earlier, and I like the wonderful EVF and especially for shooting wider than 28 and longer than 50mm (I still prefer the rangefinder for shooting between 28 and 50). The kit I am building will have the Sony 16 f/1.8 G, the CV 28 f/1.5, the CV 50 f/2 APO, and the CV 75 f/1.5. I also have the CV 21 f/1.4 that I can swap in to replace the 16 and 28 when I don't think I will need the ultra wide and when I want wide people shots. In time I will also add the Zeiss Otus 50 f/1.4 ML and swap that in instead of the CV 50 APO and 75 f/1.5. And I will likely add the CV 28 f/2 APO if they make it in Sony E mount and the CV 90 f/2 APO (even if they don't make it in E mount).

My thoughts are the Sony 16 and CV 28 f/1.5 will give me much of what I liked in my original Leica kit and when I swap them out for the CV 21 f/1.4 I will get much of what I liked in my second Leica kit. The CV 28 f/2 APO would give me a different look and based on this review one I think I would really like. I think for me I would take that lens if I wanted to focus on architecture and landscapes, but wasn't going to be shooting people. From Fred's tests it would be fine for that, but I am pretty sure I would prefer the CV 28 f/1.5 and its character for people shots. Across the board I generally prefer highly corrected lenses like the Leica 50 cron APO, 90 cron APO, and the CV 50 f/2 APO, and I am pretty sure this 28 f/2 APO for architecture, landscape and nature, but I like lenses with a bit more character for people shots.

I know I like the CV 50 f/2 APO as I have used it on both Leica M and Sony E mount, for years, but it isn't my favorite for portraits. That is why I am pairing it with the CV 75 f/1.5, which I have also used on both Leica M and Sony E mount and know I like for portraits. It has just enough character that it is one of my favorite portrait lenses. When I get the Otus, however, I expect there will be times I will swap out both the CV 50 f/2 APO and the CV 75 f/1.5 for the Otus, and doing so even as heavy as the Otus is, will save me a bit of weight. I think the Otus will be one of the few lenses that I will like for architecture, landscape, and nature, *and* for portraits. I'm not getting this lens for a couple of years, because I expect it to take that long to drop to the price I am willing to pay for it, but we will see when I do how that affects my kit. Maybe I won't like it as much as I expect and won't keep it. Maybe I will like it so much that I will sell the CV 50 f/2 APO and the CV 75 f/1.5. We'll see.

I do think I want a 90 for times when I want that extra telephoto reach. I am skeptical that Cosina will ever make a 90mm Sony E mount lens but from Fred's review I think I would be happy with the CV 90 f/2 APO adapted to Sony E mount even though the corners suffer a bit when it is adapted. Corner sharpness is not ever one of my main concerns, but I am pushing this decision down the road as I would rarely use this lens with the CV 50 f/2 APO (see some of my frustrations with my first Leica kit) and even though this lens intrigues me I might want a different 90mm. In my plans I think the CV 90 f/2 APO would go best with the Otus 50 ML, but that would make a kit that may be a bit too big and too much weight for what I would like.

So that is my balancing act. I might scrap all those plans and get a Leica M again too, although I don't think my lens plans would be that different. I do like rangefinders especially for shooting 28 to 50, but I appreciate the excellent EVF of the A7r V and especially for shooting wider and longer, and one thing holding me back from a rangefinder kit is that I am not impressed by any of the ultra wide options available for rangefinders. I think I will like the Sony 16 f/1.8 G better than anything for Leica M, but maybe as I use that lens I will feel differently.



Jul 31, 2025 at 05:23 PM
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p.13 #17 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


Is https://cosina.co.jp/ down? I can't seem to connect since yesterday.


Jul 31, 2025 at 07:06 PM
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Is https://cosina.co.jp/ down? I can't seem to connect since yesterday.


It just hangs for me, even when I VPN into Japan.



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Is https://cosina.co.jp/ down? I can't seem to connect since yesterday.


It works for me, but I am using a slightly different URL. Try this one:

https://www.cosina.co.jp/voigtlander/en/



Jul 31, 2025 at 07:32 PM
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Great post. I agree that having more choices often leads to more confusion and indecision about what to carry or own. Detailed reviews with real results, samples, and tests can be more helpful than videos that focus mostly on personal opinions.

I'd have to respectfully disagree here...the rendering difference between the 28/1.5 Nokton and the 28/2 APO is more than subtle. They're easy to distinguish even in casual sample comparisons. The 28 APO delivers a far more corrected and refined look: CA correction is in a completely different league (virtually absent on the APO), and bokeh transitions are smoother, cleaner,
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I hear about the difference. I didn't mean to suggest they were super close in rendering ... I guess I meant they were both "within range" of my goals / tolerance of rendering. One leaning one way a bit vs. the other.



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