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 p.8 #17 · Do you feel Sony is falling behind on the low to mid range FF market? | |
For a long time the sony had the a9 and 200-600, which both canon and nikon had no answer for. Even now, the a9 is cheap and sony also has the 400-800, so they are well equipped..and the 300 gm has no parallel elsewhere.
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I have the Sony A7r V and I would call it a midlevel FF camera and I am very happy with it. I not particularly interested in shooting action. I don't need a silent shutter, and I appreciate its excellent high resolution sensor, excellent EVF, useful flippy LCD, and excellent IBIS. For me and my large hands, I also find the size just about right. I don't think it falls behind anything else in the market, and I think the price is competitive too.
If, however, you want a camera with higher frames per second, a silent shutter that doesn't have motion distortion, and especially if you also want higher resolution, and you want midlevel FF you are out of luck with Sony. I don't think this is anything new, however. For the past 10 years Sony has developed excellent cameras and lenses for this action oriented type of shooting, but the prices have always been high. The original A9 at the time was unique in what it offered for this type of shooting, but it was expensive. The original A1 was a great camera but it was expensive. The A9 II was a modest upgrade on the original A9, and it was expensive. Now the A1 II is a modest upgrade on the original A1 and it is expensive and the A9 III has unique technology and it is expensive. Even the lenses typically used for this type of shooting have been expensive with Sony only offering the 400 f/2.8 GM and 600 f/4 GM for a long time and at prices above $12,000. If anything it is only recently that Sony has offered some modest price relief with the 300 f/2.8 GM, although this lens is still more expensive than the Nikon 400 f/4.5 S or the 600 f/6.3 S PF. Basically, if you want to be an action oriented shooter, Sony has consistently said, "bring a wheel barrow full of money." There is nothing new here, IMO.
Nikon in particular has tried to chip away at Sony's dominance in this market by offering less expensive alternatives. The Z8 certainly has much of the capability of the A1 at a clearly cheaper price. The new Z6 III offers a partially stacked sensor for this type of shooting at an even cheaper rate. They offer a much wider range of telephoto lenses with several that are considerably less expensive than what Sony provides. Canon too, has tried to chip away at Sony's dominance. The R5 was an interesting attempt to create a high resolution action oriented camera and it helped Canon. The R5 II followed this up nicely and did so at again a very compelling price point.
So, yes Nikon and Canon offer some compelling products at a lower price if you are an action oriented shooter. Sony mostly ignores, in my view, these lower priced alternatives. Perhaps they think action oriented shooter are just willing to shell out for the high level and at that level Sony more than competes. Perhaps they think Sony shooters can rely on older models, and those are at least fairly competitive in price. I'm not sure why Sony doesn't really compete with the likes of the Nikon Z8 or Canon R5 II, but that they don't do so I see as nothing new. I think it has been their approach for about a decade ever since they introduced the original A9....Show more →
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