Me I am a life long photographer since I was 13 now 68, So I want one I always said bury me with my Leica and my 35 but actually I will want them to be used after I go
RexGig0 wrote:
Beautiful images, sir! It is good to see you write "Its the first Noctilux that is truly an everyday lens." I was already expecting this to be true, and, so, I like seeing an "everyday" photographer, rather than a you-tuber, confirming this to be so.
Edited to add: Of course, if I can ever get to the point that I can justify spending ~$11K US, after taxes, on a lens, I will have a case of "Paralysis of Analysis," deciding between the APO M 35 and the Noctilux M 35...
HAHA- You can always ship it to my place I live in Oregon with no sales tax
Thanks for the kind words as well!!!!
Taking just the Noctilux with me next week to Tokyo- in town for about 8 days. Looking forward to really shooting with it for multiple days across day/night in the city. Its a lens that just feels like the 35 Lux hanging from you- Its really impressive what Leica was able to do with this one!
Ne314satel wrote:
I offer an easy solution: get both APO and Noctilux.
I'm glad I already own the APO and don't have this dilemma, at least. FWIW, the APO is truly incredible, and so tiny, it's deserving of its reputation.
FWIW and may have already been mentioned, but when I check the list on my EV1 when looking on Manual M lenses, I cannot find the 21/1.4 (11647) nor the new 35/1.2 (11635) even though I have upgraded my FW to 2/6/1. Any suggestions?
Leica only makes the codes available for user selection if the lens is older and was widely in use before 6 bit coding became the norm. All newer lenses will have the capability to be recognized by the camera, but only if the 6 bit coded lens is attached to the camera. Obviously, you can easily code your own lenses (Voigtlander, etc) to sidestep this issue.
In reality, it's just a subtle method for Leica to steer you toward their own lenses.
josh-himes wrote:
Leica only makes the codes available for user selection if the lens is older and was widely in use before 6 bit coding became the norm. All newer lenses will have the capability to be recognized by the camera, but only if the 6 bit coded lens is attached to the camera. Obviously, you can easily code your own lenses (Voigtlander, etc) to sidestep this issue.
In reality, it's just a subtle method for Leica to steer you toward their own lenses.
Yea only the true vintage lenses will be added- Just like the 35 APO isn't on the list either.
Seriously, that image was shot against bright sun. Exactly where is the LOCA and why is it a problem in this image?
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Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 is a very good lens and many users loving it a lot.
Regarding CA, under challenging condition (strong sunlight), it unavoidably exhibit with non-apo lenses (the bottom of the mug in the left rising hand of the lady, in fact Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 has handled the CA very well and I don’t see it a problem for this photo).
Back to Noctilux 35mm f/1.2, I am following this thread and looking forward to seeing more users sharing pictures this lens can produce.
This AI-translated video was tolerable for the most part:
How are people finding focussing at f1.2 using the rangefinder / EVF? Or seeing the benefits vs the lux asph/similar at smaller apertures?
Or the weight and bokeh/sharpness vs the distagon 1.4?
Yogifi wrote:
This AI-translated video was tolerable for the most part:
How are people finding focussing at f1.2 using the rangefinder / EVF? Or seeing the benefits vs the lux asph/similar at smaller apertures?
Or the weight and bokeh/sharpness vs the distagon 1.4?
Hi Yogifi,
Actually a very good video despite ai. Liked his photos and presentation.
Would like to see if he did a similar shoot with the apo summincron.'
Thanks for sharing.
Joe D
I liked it too, it's more like what it'd be like if you actually had it and were going through snaps you took, zooming in etc.
Very useful format - I subbed.
Just like like like like some glitching with the AI when I listened to it but it's worth it. I shouldn't have been so harsh.
Not sure about the 35 apo, his titles are often english, there was a 50 apo video. And a 35/1.2 nokton one.
He has another video where he uses it with the EVF:
describes it as "unlocking the potential" im guessing focussing at 1.2 with the rangefinder is a significant difficulty.
After the dust has settled, with many picking up the Leica 35mm f/1.2 Noctilux and plenty of reviews from Leica influencers out there, I'm curious how others are seeing it. This is just my personal take, and I may be in the minority, but I wonder if it could end up being the least "character-driven" Noctilux so far.
I've always seen Leica's goal as pushing for maximum optical performance and aberration correction in ultra fast lenses, but in the past, the technology simply couldn't fully get there. Those limitations introduced imperfections, and over time, that became part of the character and signature rendering of older Noctilux lenses...
Today, with modern design and manufacturing tolerance, Leica is much closer to that ideal. That is why I can't help but wonder if this lens represents a shift away from the more imperfect rendering many of us associate with the Noctilux line.
Looking at images from it, I don't immediately recognize a distinct Leica signature in the same way. I hear people say it has that unmistakable Noctilux "look" but I'm not really seeing it. To me, it feels very well corrected, similar to many modern fast lenses from other brands. Aside from some slightly 'rectangular-shaped' specular highlights off axis, there aren't many obvious optical fingerprints.
I have always appreciated a bit of imperfection in Leica rendering, even in their modern lenses. A good example in the 35mm lineup is the Leica 35mm f/1.4 ASPH. FLE, so for me, technical progress doesn't always translate into more personality, and sometimes it even moves away from it.
Fred Miranda wrote:
After the dust has settled, with many picking up the Leica 35mm f/1.2 Noctilux and plenty of reviews from Leica influencers out there, I'm curious how others are seeing it. This is just my personal take, and I may be in the minority, but I wonder if it could end up being the least "character-driven" Noctilux so far.
I've always seen Leica's goal as pushing for maximum optical performance and aberration correction in ultra fast lenses, but in the past, the technology simply couldn't fully get there. Those limitations introduced imperfections, and over time, that became part of the character and signature rendering of older Noctilux lenses...
Today, with modern design and manufacturing tolerance, Leica is much closer to that ideal. That is why I can't help but wonder if this lens represents a shift away from the more imperfect rendering many of us associate with the Noctilux line.
Looking at images from it, I don't immediately recognize a distinct Leica signature in the same way. I hear people say it has that unmistakable Noctilux "look" but I'm not really seeing it. To me, it feels very well corrected, similar to many modern fast lenses from other brands. Aside from some slightly 'rectangular-shaped' specular highlights off axis, there aren't many obvious optical fingerprints.
I have always appreciated a bit of imperfection in Leica rendering, even in their modern lenses. A good example in the 35mm lineup is the Leica 35mm f/1.4 ASPH. FLE, so for me, technical progress doesn't always translate into more personality, and sometimes it even moves away from it....Show more →
After initial enthusiasm for the Noctilox 35, I started thinking somewhat similar thoughts. The Re-Edition Steel Rim Summilux-M 35mm Classic, which I bought in mid-2023, really "checked the boxes," for me, for a Leica-brand 35mm lens, making me abandon/postpone plans to acquire an FLE. For the times that a high degree of optical correction is desirable, and/or flare resistance is needed, I have the Zeiss Distagon 35mm f/1.4 ZM.
Encouraged by the lovely images posted by my fellow Chihuahua owner, the Cosina-Voigtlander 40mm Nokton II has my attention. (Well, to be more accurate, one does not own a Chihuahua. Chihuahuas own susceptible humans.)
I absolutely love the Noctilux now that I got it back. It absolutely feels like multiple lenses in one, where wide open and at f/1.4 it’s extremely sharp in the center with very nice falloff and bokeh off center, stopped down it has similar rendering to the 35 Cron APO. Very contrasty and extremely sharp going out to the edges. I far prefer what I’m getting over the Summilux, the structure in the Lux often rendered too harsh for my liking. Wide open its absolutely a tool, being able to shoot wide open at distance while keeping the ISO down low.
Fred Miranda wrote:
I have always appreciated a bit of imperfection in Leica rendering, even in their modern lenses. A good example in the 35mm lineup is the Leica 35mm f/1.4 ASPH. FLE, so for me, technical progress doesn't always translate into more personality, and sometimes it even moves away from it.
In our world, a little better usually means twice the price. I also prefer a strong character in lenses—a perfect lens is often just boring. The new Noctilux is a good lens, it can replace two lenses at once, but it costs the same as two lenses. Does it have character? Certainly less than other Noctiluxes.
I’ve never had any of the other Noctiluxs, but it seems the recent 75/90/35s are a new breed, favoring optical performance rather than character. The 50 f.95, f1 and f1.2 all are full of what we call character, but are really just imperfections because they didn’t have the technology/know-how to create such optical performance as they do today. I think it would be foolish of Leica to assume every shooter desires optical perfection over character, but that is where things seem headed with the recent releases. Are the ‘character’ lenses solely resolved to the Classic line going forward
I've had many Noctilux's and the 75mm Noctilux definitely stood head & shoulders above the rest in terms of wide-open sharpness. I've not tried the new 35mm Noctilux, so can't say how it compares relative to the 75mm. The 75mm Noctilux's size is quite polarizing though.
