p.1 #2 · Is it wise to buy a Hasselblad X2D 100C now?
The X1DII if I recall had an original retail price of around $8k. As the X2D was nearing release the X1DII price dropped to $6k new.
After the X2D was released the X1DII price dropped again and here in NY, B&H Photo had a clearance sale for a new X1DII and the XCD 45P lens with a price of $4200.
I was tempted but couldn’t pull the trigger at that time. However, about 6 months later I was able to buy that same X1DII / 45P outfit gently used from another photographer locally for $3200.
So my assumption is the X2D will follow a similar downward price path. I believe that the way Hasselblad is giving away X2D’s to every YT and IG influencer is kind of an inventory clearance. I’m actually hoping and waiting for an X2D clearance sale myself.
p.1 #3 · Is it wise to buy a Hasselblad X2D 100C now?
The X2D is already an incredible camera, and if it fits your needs, I’d go for it. Rumors are always around, but nothing confirmed. You could wait months with nothing new in hand. Unless you really need faster AF or some major update, I’d say don’t overthink it. Shoot now.
p.1 #4 · Is it wise to buy a Hasselblad X2D 100C now?
A different way to look at it might be relative to time.
By that, I mean if you willing to wait 6 months (arbitrary example) to see a $600 price drop, could you rent an X2D for $100 / month in the mean time to be making images now, instead of waiting 6 months before making images with the X2D.
That might seem kinda silly (just an example), but in the realm of the "long term rental program" ... there is an assessment of $$$ now vs. time now vs. $$$ later vs. time later. Which it boils down to how big of a hurry are you to get it in your hands? Meh, someday ... or, I've got images I need (or would really like) to be making with it sooner, rather than later.
So, if you "overspend" now, realize that you'll have the value of the images made between now vs. someday. Conversely, you could buy glass for the Hassy now, and stockpile it while waiting for the body price to drop.
Always a tough call to "time the market", so to speak ... so, sometimes it is easier to place a value on your time / opportunities / missed opportunities ... to help get some perspective on things.
p.1 #5 · Is it wise to buy a Hasselblad X2D 100C now?
RustyBug wrote:
A different way to look at it might be relative to time.
By that, I mean if you willing to wait 6 months (arbitrary example) to see a $600 price drop, could you rent an X2D for $100 / month in the mean time to be making images now, instead of waiting 6 months before making images with the X2D.
That might seem kinda silly (just an example), but in the realm of the "long term rental program" ... there is an assessment of $$$ now vs. time now vs. $$$ later vs. time later. Which it boils down to how big of a hurry are you to get it in your hands? Meh, someday ... or, I've got images I need (or would really like) to be making with it sooner, rather than later.
So, if you "overspend" now, realize that you'll have the value of the images made between now vs. someday. Conversely, you could buy glass for the Hassy now, and stockpile it while waiting for the body price to drop.
Always a tough call to "time the market", so to speak ... so, sometimes it is easier to place a value on your time / opportunities / missed opportunities ... to help get some perspective on things. ...Show more →
I wish you could rent one for $100/month. It is more like $600/week. I’d love to try out shooting with one and a couple of lenses, to see it would be a big difference for me, but that would be the price of a good lens. Alas…just dream, I guess. I do like the sound of a $4200 X2D but likely too much to hope for.
p.1 #6 · Is it wise to buy a Hasselblad X2D 100C now?
Grenache wrote:
I wish you could rent one for $100/month. It is more like $600/week. I’d love to try out shooting with one and a couple of lenses, to see it would be a big difference for me, but that would be the price of a good lens. Alas…just dream, I guess. I do like the sound of a $4200 X2D but likely too much to hope for.
Jim
Yup, thus the "long term rental" ... i.e. if you go ahead and buy it, even if you only keep it for a month (or longer), and you were to sell it for a small loss, it'll be less than the $$$ you'd be out for a month's rental. Never mind the cost of a rental to get started shooting now vs. waiting 6 months or a year till prices drop, and how that would "offset".
Time vs. money ... they each have their merits of value. Something everybody has to assess for their own situation.
So, given the lag time waiting on the rumor. Then, the lag time waiting on release to market. Then, the lag time for X2D pricing to move ... it could be a while before we see a significant drop. Particularly when (imo) it might be a situation similar to the M10R vs. M11 ... in that, the M10R pricing held pretty strong, as folks felt it served their needs well enough that there wasn't THAT much reason to upgrade to the M11.
So, if you do purchase the X2D now, and say the price does go down by another $600 ... that amortizes to about $50 / month over a year. And, if you plan on keeping the X2D for say 5 years, that rolls down to about $10/month of "overpayment" vs. waiting for the $$$ to drop that $600. However, if the pricing doesn't come down. But, that also means you've got that amount of more time / sooner to be using the X2D than while you're waiting for a "hmmm, might ... might not" to happen.
Always a tough call to answer what someone "should" do ... but, as long as you have your head wrapped around why you do (or don't do) a given decision, you should be good either way.
p.1 #7 · Is it wise to buy a Hasselblad X2D 100C now?
Just my opinion, but I think it's fair to say that moving from full-frame to medium format won't make a huge difference for most people, especially outside the world of photographers. The subtle gains in image quality are often lost on anyone who isn’t actively looking for them. What really makes a noticeable impact is understanding light, shooting at the right time of day, nailing your composition, and being truly comfortable with your gear. Those elements will elevate your work far more than a sensor upgrade ever will.
p.1 #9 · Is it wise to buy a Hasselblad X2D 100C now?
Even if Hassy announced the replacement tomorrow (I don't think that's going to happen) you wouldn't have it in your hands for six months to a year. If you're hoping used prices will drop on the current model once the new one's announced, that impact isn't likely to be immediate either and may not happen if the upgrade is underwhelming and/or posts a higher MRSP.
If it's the camera you want and it's in budget, do it.
p.1 #10 · Is it wise to buy a Hasselblad X2D 100C now?
Surfnsun wrote:
Just my opinion, but I think it's fair to say that moving from full-frame to medium format won't make a huge difference for most people, especially outside the world of photographers.
The same can be said about moving from APS-C to full frame, or about moving from m43 to APS-C.
I am not sure why people continuously and almost exclusively keep bringing this up in medium format discussions.
p.1 #12 · Is it wise to buy a Hasselblad X2D 100C now?
SlowDriver wrote:
The same can be said about moving from APS-C to full frame, or about moving from m43 to APS-C.
I am not sure why people continuously and almost exclusively keep bringing this up in medium format discussions.
That ... and it wasn't even remotely close to the OP question, which was about rumors / releases / market pricing / timing. Not about gear IQ or merits thereof.
Personally, I think everyone should experience for themselves the differences in varying formats (to their temperament / budgets). Then, they know how it fits (or not) into their own paradigm of wants / needs. Sometimes the bear just needs to go over that mountain ... even, if they don't remain there.
But, again ... that wasn't the OP's question, either.
p.1 #13 · Is it wise to buy a Hasselblad X2D 100C now?
Surfnsun wrote:
Just my opinion, but I think it's fair to say that moving from full-frame to medium format won't make a huge difference for most people, especially outside the world of photographers. The subtle gains in image quality are often lost on anyone who isn’t actively looking for them. What really makes a noticeable impact is understanding light, shooting at the right time of day, nailing your composition, and being truly comfortable with your gear. Those elements will elevate your work far more than a sensor upgrade ever will.
All that said, the X2D is damn sexy.
Why do you shoot Sony FF?
Why not ASP-C?
No one will notice that you are shooting with a smaller sensor-
p.1 #15 · Is it wise to buy a Hasselblad X2D 100C now?
RoamingScott wrote:
Is that an unusually good price in spain? That's the going used rate here, you can find them all day at that price, if not cheaper.
To be honest it is really hard to find this Camera in the 2nd hand market. The price offered is good, Brand new is around $8K.
p.1 #17 · Is it wise to buy a Hasselblad X2D 100C now?
If you are coming from the world of Leica, or you’re a considered shooter then you’ll enjoy the X2D as is. The IQ, handling, UI and menus are superb. The main flaws are a lack of a joystick, a poorly implemented flip screen and an inconsistent startup speed. For me it’d have to have all of these plus an AF speed bump for me to get one. And it they over complicate it with video etc, that would be a negative for me. My X2D’s (three) have provided rock solid performance and reliability since release day. Basically nothing they do annoys me, which I can’t say about any other camera I own.
If you are coming from a Sony/Canikon or you need a camera that responds as close as possible to one then no, you won’t enjoy the camera. Wait and see or look at a GFX100S. They also have all the features like eye detect, video and shooting options. Expect the menus that match cameras with it *all*. These things matter to some. If they do to you and you want them then the X2D isn’t the camera and the compromises in features and speed will just frustrate, regardless of how pretty it is.
The third thing is, if you can afford to have both, you can get going with the X2D and add the new one later. The current model should make an ideal backup. Or sell it on and take the hit as a usage charge.
You’ll also need to budget in lenses. AF performance is extremely lens dependant with the X2D. What lenses are you looking at?
p.1 #19 · Is it wise to buy a Hasselblad X2D 100C now?
RustyBug wrote:
Yup, thus the "long term rental" ... i.e. if you go ahead and buy it, even if you only keep it for a month (or longer), and you were to sell it for a small loss, it'll be less than the $$$ you'd be out for a month's rental. Never mind the cost of a rental to get started shooting now vs. waiting 6 months or a year till prices drop, and how that would "offset".
Time vs. money ... they each have their merits of value. Something everybody has to assess for their own situation.
So, given the lag time waiting on the rumor. Then, the lag time waiting on release to market. Then, the lag time for X2D pricing to move ... it could be a while before we see a significant drop. Particularly when (imo) it might be a situation similar to the M10R vs. M11 ... in that, the M10R pricing held pretty strong, as folks felt it served their needs well enough that there wasn't THAT much reason to upgrade to the M11.
So, if you do purchase the X2D now, and say the price does go down by another $600 ... that amortizes to about $50 / month over a year. And, if you plan on keeping the X2D for say 5 years, that rolls down to about $10/month of "overpayment" vs. waiting for the $$$ to drop that $600. However, if the pricing doesn't come down. But, that also means you've got that amount of more time / sooner to be using the X2D than while you're waiting for a "hmmm, might ... might not" to happen.
Always a tough call to answer what someone "should" do ... but, as long as you have your head wrapped around why you do (or don't do) a given decision, you should be good either way.
p.1 #20 · Is it wise to buy a Hasselblad X2D 100C now?
RustyBug wrote:
A different way to look at it might be relative to time.
By that, I mean if you willing to wait 6 months (arbitrary example) to see a $600 price drop, could you rent an X2D for $100 / month in the mean time to be making images now, instead of waiting 6 months before making images with the X2D.
That might seem kinda silly (just an example), but in the realm of the "long term rental program" ... there is an assessment of $$$ now vs. time now vs. $$$ later vs. time later. Which it boils down to how big of a hurry are you to get it in your hands? Meh, someday ... or, I've got images I need (or would really like) to be making with it sooner, rather than later.
So, if you "overspend" now, realize that you'll have the value of the images made between now vs. someday. Conversely, you could buy glass for the Hassy now, and stockpile it while waiting for the body price to drop.
Always a tough call to "time the market", so to speak ... so, sometimes it is easier to place a value on your time / opportunities / missed opportunities ... to help get some perspective on things. ...Show more →
If we apply financial management to our hobby "photography", then we urgently need to sell all our equipment, because we do not receive income. I say this as a CEO with 35 years of experience)) Life is short, live one day at a time, guys!
