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p.82 #1 · Leica M EV1


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And several makers have quickly moved to take advantage of the EV equipped camera and its future variants, with sub-0.7m MFDs (Cosina, Thypoch and Leica itself are examples, others too).

EVFs will democratize focal length usage, among many other significant changes (too many for the liking of the readership at this time). EVFs are revolutionary, not incremental.



Isn't an EVF simply an evolution of live view? The screen just got smaller and closer to your eye.

Digital was a revolution, it changed how people use and shoot their cameras, what conditions they can do that, how long they go before they have to "reload" or lighting conditions make it impossible to continue. An EVF is just a convenience, yes it allows you to shoot easier under certain conditions but it does not really change how you do it.

But we're just talking semantics at this stage.



Nov 30, 2025 at 06:13 AM
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p.82 #2 · Leica M EV1


It changes everything from shot selection, range of lenses (FL and lens speed in particular) usable in a moment, fine level focus accuracy and speed. The 'certain conditions' are universal.

Being a pragmatist, I am talking about the practical impact of usage in everyday photography, and the market flow-on effects it will bring - because I have used them from the very beginning of full-frame EVFs. The LCD mini-television is far removed from an EVF. Why is it so, to say such a thing? Sony did not win, ousting the OVF DSLRs due to small camera size, you might even agree with that. It's because EVFs are so much more than 'just got smaller and closer to your eye'.

Do you know how good the average 60 year old's eyesight is, post onset of presbyopia? I use this as a possible metric of M users profiles. Even if they can manage to see the LCD as a total image, you cannot replace the rapid focus acquisition and ability to scan the entire scene you get with an EVF. EVFs replace approximation with an icy level of exactitude.

You get only an arms length glimpse of the fine points of bokeh, focus fade, transitions, filters, comps you want to reject because the lens does not agree with you. You would look like a phone addict doing the fiddle.

EVFs enable you to shape the image in a way OVFs never can, you can see who is in focus, who is not, what aperture is needed, how the background will look, view extraneous content, etc. It's more than a little different to the struggle to superimpose boxes inside another tiny box because you happen to enjoy 90mm lenses. The EVF brings you much closer to the lens, it's now a partnership of sorts.

All the tools that enable focus and a solid facsimile of the end sensor image are EVF-based. Then, the practicality of swapping back and forth from OVF/RF and LCD screen. In my activities it would not work, I'd look like a rank amateur to my purported subjects. They would walk away..

And that explains the popularity of even the monster bolt-on Visoflex unit, which so many use despite its exorbitant cost. Because they need utility, accuracy, effectiveness and efficiency - all of these, for a full range of lenses. You might be talking semantics, I am talking the practicalities of everyday usage.

M photography is utterly dominated by 35/50mm lenses - a normal distribution with very short tails. Short teles are not easy focus options, so we can expect much more interest from lens producers and users in new lenses as a result. EV1 users will be able to take full advantage of the rapid action EVF shooting style.

Lenses will grow a little larger, designers pick up extra degrees of freedom, so less expensive glass will reduce costs. These are just a handful of snippets for you, the list is very long indeed. Some cannot be envisioned yet, due to human behaviour. cheers, and thanks for your interest.



Nov 30, 2025 at 02:55 PM
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p.82 #3 · Leica M EV1


M EV1 + Voigtlander Color-Skopar 21/3.5

It's nice being able to compose the shot through the EVF rather than the LCD on my M11. It feels much more immersive to use the EVF especially for a wide shot like this one, IMO.







Nov 30, 2025 at 03:04 PM
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p.82 #4 · Leica M EV1


I shot an M EV-1 in Milan for an extended street shoot today. I used only a 75mm F1.5 lens because this is a difficult combo for street on a RF camera. I will post some images and opinions when I get home.


Dec 06, 2025 at 02:34 PM
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p.82 #5 · Leica M EV1


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I shot an M EV-1 in Milan for an extended street shoot today. I used only a 75mm F1.5 lens because this is a difficult combo for street on a RF camera. I will post some images and opinions when I get home.


And how did you like it?



Dec 06, 2025 at 02:56 PM
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p.82 #6 · Leica M EV1


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And how did you like it?


When I played with the EV-1 pre-release at an invited event I was just one of others in a group setting. We were not able to go outside and shoot as we normally do. This time I was given a loaner and able to go out for a few hours and shoot street in my usual way. I got a much deeper and more personal test this way.

For me it is clear that this is not the right Leica camera for my use. So, I passed even though I could have bought one of 2 in stock for 6,700 which is a nice discount from the 8,995 being quoted in the US. One had been bought by someone and returned so discounted, the other was new in an unopened box and after VAT refund and other things came out to about the same price.

It is a nice camera in all ways, and I am sure that a lot of what throws me off is I am so used to what I already shoot daily. I am faster, more fluid, and more accurate, with either my RF M11 or my SL3 when shooting M lenses. The M11 RF is so bright and clear. The EVF-1 is nicer than using the VisoFlex on my M11, but not by much. It is still a bit jumpy and not smooth, especially when zoomed in with a long lens. It is far inferior to shooting M lenses on my SL3. The amazing EVF on the SL3 is brighter, has more contrast, a better eye cup, and because of it's faster refresh rate and IBIS much smoother and easier on the eye. This makes a huge difference. Because of the lower contrast on the EV-1 the focus peaking is often difficult to see meaning I had to zoom in to confirm focus. Te SL3 EVF is much larger, has a near perfect eye cup which blocks light leaking in and improves visibility immensely. I found the EV-1 to EVF to much less easy to see in.

The form factor of the EV-1 is full stop M11. It is native M mount so my library of lenses are native, all my accessories and much of my workflow would remain the same. I loved this about it the camera. For those who don't love the RF experience, or are coming from a Q or even a system other than Leica I believe the EV-1 is a very viable choice. It should do well in the leica lineup. It is my sense that this line of camera will begin to iterate, and improve, on a schedule not directly tied to the RF M cameras like the other M cameras do. It will develop as it's own thing eventually. Maybe even slightly in form factor to enable features that are hugely beneficial to mirrorless a camera experience. I believe we are see the birth an a mirrorless camera line that shotts M mount natively. I am guessing that is why it is named the way it is.

Back to my test. I decided to shoot a lens that is difficult to shoot on an RF camera. Long, fast, and character rich. So, I chose my Voigtlander 75 mm f/1.5 Nokton and went people street shooting around the beautiful Duomo are of Milano Italy. To make it even more difficult I shot at mostly very wide apertures so narrow DOF. After all, my goal was to test the focusing workflow and results. Maybe I went to far with this on an unfamiliar platform. I missed more that I succeeded to be honest. Because I was too slow moments often escaped me. Because I was unaccustomed to the view finder framing was often off. Because I was having trouble with pixel peaking and zooming using this low contrast lens I missed focus a little way too often.

Anyway below is a small collections of images from the test to illustrate my experience. Nothing artistic the goal was to test the workflow. I hope you all enjoy them and they help you understand this new Leica camera. Feel free to ask specific questions and I will do my best to answer them. No YouTube or reviewer agenda here with me.





Tomas, one of the wonderfull staff at the Milano Store. A classic close up portrait shot wide open. Very shallow DOF. I think I just missed it, slight motion blur because low light required slow shutter or the lens is not that sharp in this situation.







Typical random street portrait where I got focus correctly. It was shot with no contact with the subject. But I was slow so he did notice. He was very nice about it.







Typical street shot of holiday shoppers accross the street from the Duomo. Crowd in motion test. I had trouble keeping focus fast enough. For sure this would improve with practice.







Easy shot from further away static subject and stopped down to F/40. I could easily shoot this style with a good success rate.







Nuns in front of the Duomo, shot with street style stealth so the never noticed me. I think I hit focus on this one and wanted to do a B&W.







Fail. Way too many of these. I was trying to focus on the man and missed slightly. I think focus is some in front of him. I am guessing I would do better with practice and a more appropriate lens.



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Dec 07, 2025 at 06:00 AM
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p.82 #7 · Leica M EV1


A German owner is currently selling his EV1 in a P version ✨
If that one were in silver… (and ideally with a tilting screen)… I’d be in




Dec 07, 2025 at 06:04 AM
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p.82 #8 · Leica M EV1


1bwana1 wrote:
When I played with the EV-1 pre-release at an invited event I was just one of others in a group setting. We were not able to go outside and shoot as we normally do. This time I was given a loaner and able to go out for a few hours and shoot street in my usual way. I got a much deeper and more personal test this way.

For me it is clear that this is not the right Leica camera for my use. So, I passed even though I could have bought one of 2 in stock for 6,700 which
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I hear you and much of what you say I agree with! I wish the EVF were as big and respondant as the SL3. Yet, I really enjoy the immersive experience with wide angle and longer lenses in the EVF. I've shot a lot in my past with focus peaking (Sony) so for me, I can be as fast as with the M11. I'm going to ride the EV-1 for a while yet before deciding whether to sell it or my M11.



Dec 07, 2025 at 09:34 AM
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p.82 #9 · Leica M EV1


rji2goleez wrote:
I hear you and much of what you say I agree with! I wish the EVF were as big and respondant as the SL3. Yet, I really enjoy the immersive experience with wide angle and longer lenses in the EVF. I've shot a lot in my past with focus peaking (Sony) so for me, I can be as fast as with the M11. I'm going to ride the EV-1 for a while yet before deciding whether to sell it or my M11.



I think that you are taking a reasonable path with this. As I said the EV-1 will be a great choice for many.



Dec 07, 2025 at 10:02 AM
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p.82 #10 · Leica M EV1


1bwana1
Could you specially explain how you shoot the RF versus the EV1? For me it would take a few weeks to determine a differences worth talking about, but you seem to have dialed in your preferences quickly. So I kindly ask you some questions as I must really decide this week if I get one or not.

I too have the SL3, M11P and also both Q's as well as an M11M. I use the Viso2 most of there time on any M11. That said I have no trouble using my M6's, M3 etc so the RF experience is not all bad for me. That said I mainly now use my X2DII for landscape/travel and often leave any M behind unless I want a Mono.

I do WAY LESS street than I used to so my zone focusing methods seldom apply anymore. To me FP creates confusion all too often so I turn it off and just judge if I am in focus or not. Sure if wide open, then I zoom in to confirm focus when allowed.

Thanks for your further comments.



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p.82 #11 · Leica M EV1


1bwana1 wrote:
When I played with the EV-1 pre-release at an invited event I was just one of others in a group setting. We were not able to go outside and shoot as we normally do. This time I was given a loaner and able to go out for a few hours and shoot street in my usual way. I got a much deeper and more personal test this way.

For me it is clear that this is not the right Leica camera for my use. So, I passed even though I could have bought one of 2 in stock for 6,700 which
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Nice write-up.

I'm inclined to think that my approach will be split with my SL2-S (future SL3-S) and M-10R. I mostly appreciate your chose of the VM 75/1.5, as I previously shot that (pre-SL2-S) lens on my M240P. I've come to a place where I'm starting to have a dividing line between focal lengths vs. bodies. Meaning that I'll likely load up my M's mostly with 24 - 50 glass, and my SL with other glass. Your input regarding the M-EV1 (as an alternate to SL) is well regarded ... and the use case (i.e. when afforded time vs. more reactive) is also well appreciated.

As to the Visoflex ... I haven't mounted mine to my M's (M246 / M10-R) since getting my SL2-S, but I still have them as an option. Instead, I tend to just mount the glass to the SL2-S (which, as you know, the IBIS with longer glass can be nice, too), as well as the EVF for critical focus, etc. Shorter glass, the M's and I get along just fine. Longer glass, pushes the envelope a bit more ... which I can do, just not as rapidly, particularly when a lens has focus shift in play (such as the referenced VM 75/1.5).

That said, I think your inputs align with my (proposed) direction to the SL3-S + M10R vs. $$$ for an M-EV1.

Thanks again for the nice write-up.




Dec 07, 2025 at 11:10 AM
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p.82 #12 · Leica M EV1


stgrove wrote:
1bwana1
Could you specially explain how you shoot the RF versus the EV1? For me it would take a few weeks to determine a differences worth talking about, but you seem to have dialed in your preferences quickly. So I kindly ask you some questions as I must really decide this week if I get one or not.

I too have the SL3, M11P and also both Q's as well as an M11M. I use the Viso2 most of there time on any M11. That said I have no trouble using my M6's, M3 etc so the RF experience is not all
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Actually I tried to shoot the EV-1 as closely as possible the same way I shoot my M11 in similar circumstances. That is the reason I chose the 75mm f1.5 lens. Shooting lenses 50mm and shorter is easy and natural using a Range Finder. We have excellent frame lines and reasonable DOF so it is fast and the success rate is high. Using the distance/DOF scales to shoot zone focusing methods are the same on all cameras. So shooting this long focal length with shallow DOf was to test whether the EV-1 provided advantage in focus speed and accuracy in circumstances where the RF based M11 is challenging. I found that for me it did not. I acknowledge that it might with more practice. However, I find that my SL3 does provide the desired advantage currently. This is primarily because of its far superior EVF, IBIS, and faster processor. These attributes are all because of superior hardware. I don't believe Leica can reach this level of advantage with the current EV-1 hardware as a platform.

I hope this answers your questions. If not, ask and I will try to clarify.



Dec 07, 2025 at 04:35 PM
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p.82 #13 · Leica M EV1


Thanks


Dec 07, 2025 at 04:47 PM
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p.82 #14 · Leica M EV1


I think trying out an E EV1 for a couple of hours isn't sufficient to tell how well it works. I got an M EV1 three days ago and I'm still experimenting with it. I've used an M11 for the past three years so I wouldn't say I'm world class on focusing it but I am proficient.

I wanted a small system (both camera and lenses), that was high quality in both build and images produced. I've used many mirrorless cameras over the years and I prefer being able to preview the final image both in composition and exposure. An SL was never a consideration since I see no advantage compared to my Nikon Z system (I used an SL2 for a couple of months a couple of years ago).

So far the M EV1 seems to be ticking my boxes so far. I've only been testing indoors (due to a lot of rain) but my opinion doesn't match what I see on all these forums (mostly from people who have never tried it). I'll be curious to see how sales for Leica go and if it meets their expectations.



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bcaslis wrote:
I think trying out an E EV1 for a couple of hours isn't sufficient to tell how well it works. I got an M EV1 three days ago and I'm still experimenting with it. I've used an M11 for the past three years so I wouldn't say I'm world class on focusing it but I am proficient.

I wanted a small system (both camera and lenses), that was high quality in both build and images produced. I've used many mirrorless cameras over the years and I prefer being able to preview the final image both in composition and exposure. An SL
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As I acknowledged I think with practice my results would improve. I beleive that the EV-1 will be a nice camera choice for many. But a couple of hours is more than adequate to compare the core behavior of the EV-1 against another EVF based camera that one is very familiar with. In my case, the SL3.

It is very clear the EV-1 view finder's optics are not up to the SL3 view finder. Instantly noticable.

It is very apparent that the EV-1 view finder has a lower refresh rate than the SL3 so there is noticable lag in the EVF.

It is instantly noticed that the EV-1 isn't as smooth as the SL3 due to the lack of IBIS. The longer the focal length and the more one zooms for focus confirmation the bigger an issue this is. This is a huge item for me.

The contrast in the EV-1 EVF is lower than the SL3 so the pixel peaking is not as effective resulting in slower less accurate focusing. This at least in part is due to size and eye cup differences.

It is easy to see that the start up and wake from sleep in the EV-1 is significantly slower than the SL3. This results in missed shots. It is processor power based.

So, yes one can easily compare the EV-1 to the Szl3 (or another camera) in a very short time. These are all hardware based behaviors so they cannot be fixed with either firmware or practice time with the camera.

This leads me to my conclusion that for me the SL3 is my prefered platform for shooting M lenses through an EVF. I feel I had adequate time to evaluate that narrow comparison. Again, that doesn't mean that the EV-1 is flawed or a poor camera. It's performance characteristics will work very well for many people. One thing for sure, I greatly prefer the EV-1 form factor over the SL3.

I would also like to congratulate you on your new camera. It should bring you many years of great photography.




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p.82 #16 · Leica M EV1


bcaslis wrote:
I think trying out an E EV1 for a couple of hours isn't sufficient to tell how well it works. I got an M EV1 three days ago and I'm still experimenting with it. I've used an M11 for the past three years so I wouldn't say I'm world class on focusing it but I am proficient.

I wanted a small system (both camera and lenses), that was high quality in both build and images produced. I've used many mirrorless cameras over the years and I prefer being able to preview the final image both in composition and exposure. An SL
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Appreciate comments from actual owners who not only committed the funds, but also will commit the time necessary to deicide if the EV1 is a keeper for them.

Will I be one of these? Time will tell. I love my M11M +Viso2 and Q43. Will I keep my M11P is the big question I must answer.

As an SL3 and SL3S owner I must decide whether to keep one or both as I own the X2Dii which is my favorite camera to date even though I have owned about 15+ Leica digital M's. I have way too much M glass I like(very old and very new) to just abandon the M series.




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p.82 #17 · Leica M EV1


1bwana1 wrote:
As I acknowledged I think with practice my results would improve. I beleive that the EV-1 will be a nice camera choice for many. But a couple of hours is more than adequate to compare the core behavior of the EV-1 against another EVF based camera that one is very familiar with. In my case, the SL3.

It is very clear the EV-1 view finder's optics are not up to the SL3 view finder. Instantly noticable.

It is very apparent that the EV-1 view finder has a lower refresh rate than the SL3 so there is noticable lag in the EVF.

It
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I agree with your comments on the hardware, it's clear that the M EV1 is not leading edge. But that is not my reason for buying and I suspect would be the same for many other buyers. The question will be if it is good enough given the size benefits. For me, if I was basing only on technical merits I would never consider it over my Nikons, heck an original Z7 in AFS is better for focus than the EV1 (or any rangefinder despite what some say) but it's not as much fun. What I was commenting on was it takes time to evaluate the experience (why would you buy any Leica except for the experience) and I think the EV1 will be better than the sum of it's parts for that.



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bcaslis wrote:
I agree with your comments on the hardware, it's clear that the M EV1 is not leading edge. But that is not my reason for buying and I suspect would be the same for many other buyers. The question will be if it is good enough given the size benefits. For me, if I was basing only on technical merits I would never consider it over my Nikons, heck an original Z7 in AFS is better for focus than the EV1 (or any rangefinder despite what some say) but it's not as much fun. What I was commenting on was
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I agree 100%. If you enjoy the shooting experience then it is a good fit.



Dec 08, 2025 at 01:05 AM
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p.82 #19 · Leica M EV1


1bwana1 wrote:
One thing for sure, I greatly prefer the EV-1 form factor over the SL3.



It always comes down to this as the main debit of the SL series in general especially in comparison to the EV-1. To me personally, the native M-mount in the EV-1 is another big plus for this camera if someone is vested in the M- but not the L-lens system. The SL series - especially older predecessor versions - have the big benefit of lower price point over the EV-1 - but so does the Nikon Zf......



Dec 08, 2025 at 07:56 AM
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p.82 #20 · Leica M EV1


One thing I started thinking about with the EV-1 is to compare my 'comfort' shooting this camera which increases more and more as I use it. It reminded me of when I first started shooting with a rangefinder. Specifically, it took some time to get used to the rangefinder experience coming from the Sony (or any other non-rangefinder system). After a while, using the rangefinder felt natural and easy to use.

I'm finding a similar experience with the EV-1. When I first started to use it, I felt a little awkward and slow coming from my M-11. As I use it more, it is becoming more second nature using the EV and enjoying the ability to see what the camera/lens sees no matter the lens attached.

So, it makes me wonder if some of the EV-1 naysayers are jumping the gun and not giving themselves more time with the camera in the hand. I certainly am not discrediting some of the highlighted negatives that others are noting. Some are from direct comparison to a traditional M. Some are just the technical specs of the EV-1. But like with any new tool, it sometimes takes a bit of time to get to our maxiumum efficiency in using a tool before passing judgement.

I'm still in assessment mode with the EV-1 vs my M11.



Dec 08, 2025 at 08:07 AM
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