I found that the Fotos app will drain the battery significantly quicker than anything on the M11- including using the back screen as an EVF. I wish they can optimized this app for less power consumption.
tigerlo wrote:
If you have M11 series camera, you may try using your cellphone as an EVF (through Leica FOTOS app). I consider it’s a much better option than Visoflex for *ANY* angle shots, especially for street style shooting.
dumplinknet wrote:
I found that the Fotos app will drain the battery significantly quicker than anything on the M11- including using the back screen as an EVF. I wish they can optimized this app for less power consumption.
RustyBug wrote:
Invert the SL3 vs. the EV-1 if IBIS (or flip / waist level) is a priority.
M
M EV-1
SL3
Options for M glass utilization (in the Leica ethos universe) as the desire for EVF, or EVF + IBIS accrue.
BTW ... this might seem like an odd question, given the EVF ... but, does anyone know if the Visoflex still works the same on the EV-1 as a regular M. Point being ... it is an "angle finder" in addition to being an EVF styled VF, (for low level shots, etc.), sans a flip screen on the EV-1.
No, the Visoflex does not function on the EV1. The contacts in the shoe are missing.
RustyBug wrote:
As to the price difference (previous reference), I still think I have been seeing the SL APO lenses on the B&S boards for around $3K and the Hassy V series on the B&S boards for around $3K for the 30 / 50 vs. 38 / 55. Retail new might be a bigger spread than the used market, but ...
Perhaps because the V-lenses are more recent?
Retail price wise the Leica SL APO lenses are between $5,450 and $6,200 whereas the Hasselblad V lenses are between $3,699 and $4,299.
Still expensive but at the same time also significantly cheaper (between $1k and $2K) I find.
SlowDriver wrote:
Perhaps because the V-lenses are more recent?
Retail price wise the Leica SL APO lenses are between $5,450 and $6,200 whereas the Hasselblad V lenses are between $3,699 and $4,299.
Still expensive but at the same time also significantly cheaper (between $1k and $2K) I find.
I am sure both SL and V- lenses are great and a good fit if someone needs/uses either of them. What confuses me is how this relates to this thread with focus on smaller manual M-lenses? It might compare regarding the pricing itself, but I have doubt that a convinced Leica M user actually considers more bulky DSLR-like lenses if they are not needed for either AF, video, medium format etc. To me Leica M is about compact size AND high full-format based image quality. Compact size is where the other cameras discussed - SL and Hasselblad - are IMO in a different league.
The EV1 fits the bill for compactness and using M-lenses directly without adapter on high res FF sensor. I predicted this camera a few years ago exactly like this one, and I am happy that we have it now on the market. The main thing I dislike is its price tag as mantioned earlier - much too high. It should range around $4K covering the space between Leica M and Q2 IMO.
retrofocus wrote:
I am sure both SL and V- lenses are great and a good fit if someone needs/uses either of them. What confuses me is how this relates to this thread with focus on smaller manual M-lenses? It might compare regarding the pricing itself, but I have doubt that a convinced Leica M user actually considers more bulky DSLR-like lenses if they are not needed for either AF, video, medium format etc. To me Leica M is about compact size AND high full-format based image quality. Compact size is where the other cameras discussed - SL and Hasselblad - are IMO in a different league. ...Show more →
You are right. It is completely off topic. Discussion closed as far as I am concerned.
LBJ2 wrote:
One of my favorite topics "The Leica M-Look"
"Leicalook" is synonymous with "The main subject, focused at wide aperture, is located in the center of the image".
LBJ2 wrote:
One of my favorite topics "The Leica M-Look" this time with the M EV1 and some well loved Leica M lenses.
I like it when some people praise the ‘Leica glow’ they are getting from their old lenses. Then find out after they got a CLA that it was just haze in the lens that gave the glow!
Desmolicious wrote:
I like it when some people praise the ‘Leica glow’ they are getting from their old lenses. Then find out after they got a CLA that it was just haze in the lens that gave the glow!
Maybe this explains why I was never a fan of the glow 😜
stgrove wrote:
I am using the Fotodiox Pro L/M-HB(Xcd). It is solid and weighs about 100 grams. Yes many lenses vignette, but when composing I try to keep that in mind so that I can crop the vignetting out in post without upsetting my composition.
For real. The Hasselblad seems like a great camera, but the odds of me buying one are approximately nil. The idea of another system, that is mega expensive, and significantly larger has zero appeal to me.
EchoLocation wrote:
The Hasselblad seems like a great camera, but the odds of me buying one are approximately nil. The idea of another system, that is mega expensive, and significantly larger has zero appeal to me.
Same here. As a friend told me, you need a photographic project to buy specialised gear. If not, you are better off with a standard DSLR/Mirrorless.
In my case, I bought the M for street pictures several decades ago and to this day, it has been up to the task, in fact the best tool for the job for me.
So I have a small micro 43 beside for everyday stuff, when I need AF, zooms, etc.
And I've noticed that I do not use everything else or hardly, I play with it but nothing more: no project.
The X2D is great if you have the project for it and I've seen a friend shoot great pictures with it when we were visiting a city. But of course, his pictures were different than mine, his way of shooting too.
I wonder why we talk so much about a big, AF camera in a thread about a Leica M.
Not same here. I now use my X2Dii for landscape and my M's for street/city use. Now wondering why I even have the SL3/SL3S and Q28 and Q43 as they are collecting dust.
algrove wrote:
Not same here. I now use my X2Dii for landscape and my M's for street/city use. Now wondering why I even have the SL3/SL3S and Q28 and Q43 as they are collecting dust.
Horses for courses I guess.
Raining here in Italy today which makes for fantastic street, city, night, landscape photography. The perfect system for that is the SL and SL lenses.
1bwana1 wrote:
Raining here in Italy today which makes for fantastic street, city, night, landscape photography. The perfect system for that is the SL and SL lenses.
Agree, as that is one weakness of the M system in steady or heavy rain.
pmeheut wrote:
Same here. As a friend told me, you need a photographic project to buy specialised gear. If not, you are better off with a standard DSLR/Mirrorless.
In my case, I bought the M for street pictures several decades ago and to this day, it has been up to the task, in fact the best tool for the job for me.
So I have a small micro 43 beside for everyday stuff, when I need AF, zooms, etc.
And I've noticed that I do not use everything else or hardly, I play with it but nothing more: no project.
The X2D is great if you have the project for it and I've seen a friend shoot great pictures with it when we were visiting a city. But of course, his pictures were different than mine, his way of shooting too.
I wonder why we talk so much about a big, AF camera in a thread about a Leica M.
RoamingScott wrote:
Probably because both are equally unneeded for the majority of their buyers, who are desperately trying to validate their expenditures
Probably because they are so much cheaper than the EV1 by many thousands less and might give some owners more use in multiple environments.
Reasons for owning systems other than the M are many and varied and offer a place in the discussion about the new M camera since it is for some a so-so offering compared to their current M and other EVF cameras.
I use my systems and that's what validates whether I keep it or not as it has nothing to do with expenditure.
