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p.12 #1 · Leica M EV1


i just posted first pics with the 50 pre-asph here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1866017/0#16797843

Answer, no I'm going to sell the rigid as much as I love it because the pre-asph is that much better for reasons I expressed in that post.



Apr 18, 2025 at 01:06 PM
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p.12 #2 · Leica M EV1


Fred Miranda wrote:
I'm glad you are enjoying this lens. It's one of my Leica's favorite.


thanks, and especially thanks for talking me into waiting for a v3 when I was thinking one wasn't going to come along and I was about to settle for v2!



Apr 18, 2025 at 01:07 PM
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p.12 #3 · Leica M EV1


brick33308 wrote:
i just posted first pics with the 50 pre-asph here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1866017/0#16797843

Answer, no I'm going to sell the rigid as much as I love it because the pre-asph is that much better for reasons I expressed in that post.


Thanks for taking the time to reply. That makes complete sense. The two lenses have different strengths, of course, but I can certainly understand why you'd prefer the v3.

(I really don't need another 50mm lens, but I dare say I'll have to buy one eventually. I fear that the high regard for the v3 here on FM may be pushing up the price on *Bay, though .... )



Apr 19, 2025 at 03:30 AM
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p.12 #4 · Leica M EV1


For sure something new is coming next week.


Apr 25, 2025 at 09:47 AM
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p.12 #5 · Leica M EV1


Any new information on the rumored M11-V?


May 20, 2025 at 11:24 PM
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p.12 #6 · Leica M EV1


Any truth to the rumours that Leica will introduce a new battery for the 11-V?…

I kid! I kid! Imagine that…



May 20, 2025 at 11:44 PM
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p.12 #7 · Leica M EV1


Desmolicious wrote:
Any truth to the rumours that Leica will introduce a new battery for the 11-V?…

I kid! I kid! Imagine that…


If they do then it will cost $490. I don't kid.



May 22, 2025 at 07:27 AM
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p.12 #8 · Leica M EV1


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If they do then it will cost $490. I don't kid.


And they’ll stop making batteries for the regular M11 series hoping you will upgrade…



May 22, 2025 at 11:34 AM
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p.12 #9 · Leica M EV1


Not me making a spreadsheet of folks openly annoyed with Leica's business practices, to be updated and shared on the launch of the M11-V so we can see who is fully Stockholm Syndrome'd


May 22, 2025 at 11:42 AM
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p.12 #10 · Leica M EV1


New camera registered in China. Could be the one?
https://leicarumors.com/







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p.12 #11 · Leica M EV1


In case it matters, translation using Google Gemini:

Here's the translation of the Chinese text in the image:
* 核准证编号: Approval Certificate Number: 2025-9734
* 设备名称: Device Name: 2.4GHz Wireless Local Area Network/Bluetooth Device
* 设备型号: Device Model: 4246
* 申请单位: Applicant: 德国 Leica Camera AG (Germany Leica Camera AG)
* 备注: Remarks:
* 有效期: Validity Period: 五年 (Five years)
* 频率容限: Frequency Tolerance: ≤20ppm; ≤20ppm
* 频率范围: Frequency Range: 2400-2483.5MHz; 2400-2483.5MHz
* 发射功率: Transmit Power: ≤20dBm (e.i.r.p.); ≤20dBm (e.i.r.p.)
* 占用带宽: Occupied Bandwidth: ≤40MHz; ≤2MHz
* 杂散发射限制: Spurious Emission Limit: ≤-30dBm; ≤-30dBm
* 发证日期: Issue Date: 2025-05-30
* 核准代码: Approval Code: 25J991ZZ4246
* CMIIT ID: CMIIT ID:
* 调制方式: Modulation Method: BPSK/QPSK/16QAM/64QAM/DBPSK/DQPSK/CCK/GFSK
* 技术体制/功能模块: Technical System/Functional Module: 无线局域网/蓝牙 (Wireless LAN/Bluetooth)


Fred Miranda wrote:
New camera registered in China. Could be the one?
https://leicarumors.com/




May 31, 2025 at 05:30 PM
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p.12 #12 · Leica M EV1


Using Nikon Zf a bit more in last few days, i like how the focus aids are implemented in Zf.
Hope Leica can have similar or better system ans not just relying on magnification and focus peaking



Jun 01, 2025 at 12:17 AM
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p.12 #13 · Leica M EV1


With so much at stake, they will see the need to do a high end job of it, it is not just this camera body but as a foundation for future releases. So it won't be an amateur hour production.

But they might not want it to look too much like an electronic gadget either. Leica is all about class, in both senses of the word. If too many flashing lights, menu bloat..I don't know, it seems like they would be jumping straight to the other end of the spectrum from the RFs.

People don't buy Leica Ms to get ever more 'aids' and to emulate the mainstream makers - to follow the leader. Nikon style focus automation might be a bridge too far. I hope so. I feel it needs to have a solid hands on experience, for the likely clientele.



Jun 01, 2025 at 12:54 AM
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p.12 #14 · Leica M EV1


Well if they have SL3 VF and green box confirmation, that might just be swell…..


Jun 01, 2025 at 01:05 AM
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p.12 #15 · Leica M EV1


Nick YR wrote:
Using Nikon Zf a bit more in last few days, i like how the focus aids are implemented in Zf.
Hope Leica can have similar or better system ans not just relying on magnification and focus peaking


If you like the implementation in the Zf, check out the one from Canon:

?si=LKFGYI0-GM3IBNAZ

I want exactly this in every camera with phase detect pixels 😅



Jun 01, 2025 at 02:43 AM
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p.12 #16 · Leica M EV1


I'd like to see the inverse ... a pseudo ground glass presentation.

By that, I mean instead of highlighting / pointing to the area in focus (with boxes, colors, arrows, etc.) .. defocus the rest of the image. Electronically adjustable from slight to heavy. This is likely not on someone's radar and won't happen. I suppose it could be implemented via firmware, though.

But, with the RF, we have a partial patch for misalignment / alignment ... and we have the view that doesn't show us our DOF, so we have to "imagine it" in our mind's eye, per our understanding of our aperture setting. The point being that we function without seeing everything, yet we know what we have. Similar to sighting a firearm, the visual effect is learned for seeing the sharp vs. oof.

Many folks haven't shot with ground glass, and have no idea what that experience is like. But, depending on the variance in the chosen glass, focus can "pop' into place really nice, imo. In a "Leica" esque kind of manner, NOT having colored contrast or boxes turning green or arrows lining up ... less is more ... the experience (electronically emulated) of ground glass would allow you to see your focus very clearly and still have the view of the framing composition. Our present "aids" (boxes, colors, arrows, etc.) are all interruptions to the scene. Losing those visual interruptions would be Leica-esque ... rather than more like Nikon or Canon or Sony or Panny, etc. Given that DFD technology is in existence to confirm focus, a visual presentation of that, inversely presented would provide for a clear visualization of that which is in focus ... no other (distracting) aids required.


You could electronically choose from none / off (allowing you to visualize dof) to mild to heavy (making the focal plane very easy to see) ... it would be the most innovative move that would use today's technology to harken back to the ease of use legacy approach. Additionally, you'd clearly see the plane of focus, not just a focusing point. So, where you have field curvature, etc. ... it would reveal well also. Part of the M experience is that the RF offers an experience that is not found elsewhere. An electronic ground glass implementation in an M body would be an experience, not found elsewhere as well, keeping the ethos of the M as a unique experience.


And, since it could be electronically implemented, folks could roll with the other aids if they so choose. But, an electronic ground glass ... that could be the cat's meow for focusing aids, imo.


Now, if any of our fine members has Leica's ear, there's a seed to be planted.



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Jun 01, 2025 at 06:19 AM
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p.12 #17 · Leica M EV1


This being Leica and not wanting to kill their M line, I’m pretty sure they will still try to replicate the rangefinder depiction. If they combine it with a green focus light and do a better job of the rangefinder patch than Fuji does, it may work. This would mean you could only focus in the middle of the frame, just like with the M.


Jun 01, 2025 at 06:32 AM
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p.12 #18 · Leica M EV1


johnvanr wrote:
This being Leica and not wanting to kill their M line, I’m pretty sure they will still try to replicate the rangefinder depiction. If they combine it with a green focus light and do a better job of the rangefinder patch than Fuji does, it may work. This would mean you could only focus in the middle of the frame, just like with the M.


They could take make the field for the electronic ground glass optionally sized (i.e. FF, 2/3, patch) or user adjustable. Imaging having a 2/3 sized ground glass. You could clearly see the surround composition edges / entering frame activity, and a heavy ground glass to yield critical focus to pop in place. Combinations and applications could become very beloved, once folks got their head space out of Nikon / Sony / Panny / Canon / Fuji for what an EVF could / would / should be.



Jun 01, 2025 at 06:39 AM
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p.12 #19 · Leica M EV1


RustyBug wrote:
I'd like to see the inverse ... a pseudo ground glass presentation.

By that, I mean instead of highlighting / pointing to the area in focus (with boxes, colors, arrows, etc.) .. defocus the rest of the image. Electronically adjustable from slight to heavy. This is likely not on someone's radar and won't happen. I suppose it could be implemented via firmware, though.

But, with the RF, we have a partial patch for misalignment / alignment ... and we have the view that doesn't show us our DOF, so we have to "imagine it" in our mind's eye, per our understanding of
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Hm how is Canon's focus guide any more obtrusive than the rangefinder patch in an M? One has two indicators lining up, the other has two images lining up.

Imo the Canon solution makes it easier to keep track of the overall composition as it's easier to see when the indicators line up, so you have to concentrate / focus (!) less on the MF aid. And it takes up less space in the viewfinder.


The virtual ground glass idea sounds nice, but also very complex to implement. Is this supposed to apply Gaussian blur with different strength depending how far in- or out of focus the image is? And how do you deal with different DOF depending on the lens used and aperture set? Seems hard to create a consistent experience.


It's quite likely that Leica will "just" recreate the rangefinder patch digitally (i.e. two images lining up) but they'll probably enable you to move the patch around. It will still be a bit weird compared to the optical rangefinder due to DOF, so imo would be better to create something new that solves the same problems rather than trying to imperfectly mimic an optical solution. But happy to be convinced otherwise by their implementation




Jun 01, 2025 at 06:52 AM
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p.12 #20 · Leica M EV1


Very nice, indeed!

fjablo wrote:
If you like the implementation in the Zf, check out the one from Canon:

?si=LKFGYI0-GM3IBNAZ

I want exactly this in every camera with phase detect pixels 😅




Jun 01, 2025 at 07:26 AM
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