p.80 #5 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
Obvious disclaimer: if you like the camera and enjoy the output, it's a good camera for you...
That said, I haven't seen a single example in this thread that couldn't have been shot equally well with an X100. Certainly nothing with a medium format look, and nothing that seems to obviously benefit from the extra resolution. There really appears to be no "special sauce" with the lens. Increasingly, it seems like a missed opportunity at best, and a total non-starter at the new insane price.
p.80 #6 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
At full resolution, the amount of detail from the gfx100rf compared to the x100vi is night and day better especially for landscapes. It’s probably not full medium format quality but way better than the x100vi, which has a fairly mediocre lens.
p.80 #7 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
tzhang4284 wrote:
At full resolution, the amount of detail from the gfx100rf compared to the x100vi is night and day better especially for landscapes. It’s probably not full medium format quality but way better than the x100vi, which has a fairly mediocre lens.
Since everyone is completely allergic to posting actual high quality photos on FM, I guess we'll never know
At the munchkin resolutions used so far in this thread, any meaningful gains are completely obliviated. I don't disagree that the lens of the X100 holds it back for critical review, but for web-viewed photos, it all seems to be a wash.
p.80 #8 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
RoamingScott wrote:
Since everyone is completely allergic to posting actual high quality photos on FM, I guess we'll never know
At the munchkin resolutions used so far in this thread, any meaningful gains are completely obliviated. I don't disagree that the lens of the X100 holds it back for critical review, but for web-viewed photos, it all seems to be a wash.
That I agree actually. I have examples in my Flickr but I don't pay for Pro so the resolution is limited these days and FM's upload resolution is absurdly low so I didn't bother.
I suppose I can share with you some raws if you're really interested for some reason- not direct comparisons since I no longer have the X100VI but I can share some similar compositions.
With all that said, these days I prefer the Sony RX1RIII to the X100VI or GFX100RF for day to day use although I still have the GFX100RF. I debate whether to keep or sell it all the time - it really shines for landscapes above 5.6 and the details are there if you look for it but I think the image rendering falls flat for people photos and anywhere you want subject separation, which is what I shoot mostly day to day these days.
p.80 #9 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
RoamingScott wrote:
Obvious disclaimer: if you like the camera and enjoy the output, it's a good camera for you...
That said, I haven't seen a single example in this thread that couldn't have been shot equally well with an X100. Certainly nothing with a medium format look, and nothing that seems to obviously benefit from the extra resolution. There really appears to be no "special sauce" with the lens. Increasingly, it seems like a missed opportunity at best, and a total non-starter at the new insane price.
Medium format benefits only really show in very large prints or when viewing on very large, high resolution screens. For most uses APS-C is more than enough. I really wonder about the use case for the 100RF? What are the situations where someone is going to need 100mp but is also happy to only have a fixed 28mm f4? I suppose cropping gives different focal lengths, but then one could take an X-e5 with a few small primes for half the cost and similar output.
p.80 #10 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
RoamingScott wrote:
Obvious disclaimer: if you like the camera and enjoy the output, it's a good camera for you...
That said, I haven't seen a single example in this thread that couldn't have been shot equally well with an X100. Certainly nothing with a medium format look, and nothing that seems to obviously benefit from the extra resolution. There really appears to be no "special sauce" with the lens. Increasingly, it seems like a missed opportunity at best, and a total non-starter at the new insane price.
None of them can shoot with X100, simply because of the different FOV.
If you mean you can shoot with any, even 6MP ancient camera with 28mm f2.8 eq. lens you are completely right, since none of web posted image has higher resolution. So if you don't need, don't want 100MP for cropping, printing large, for small details able to capture, there is absolutely no reason for buying GFX100RF.
Same go for RX1RIII, if you don't want the smallest FF F2 package with latest AF tech., absolutely you don't need that camera.
p.80 #11 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
I have to say I love this camera. I’ve had mine since soon after it became available. My other systems are a Leica M10 with several lenses, and a Nikon Z8 that I really only use with the 24-120/4, sometimes the 14-30/4. The 100RF is a fantastic middle ground camera for travel. The AF is accurate, 28mm is about as wide as I like to shoot unless going for a specific composition where I’d use the 14-30. The sensor gives quite a bit of latitude, such that I can just shoot with auto-ISO up to 12,000 with 2 minimum shutter speeds, one at 1/40 for still scenes, and one at 1/125 for anything with movement, or in windy conditions. Easy to swap with the front control dial. This compensates for the absence of IBIS for my needs. Lastly, I use the crop modes and aspect ratio dial all the time. It helps with composition and gives adequate resolution (more than my M10!! up to 50mm equivalent) for my needs. I really don’t have a need for 100mp images for how I shoot, but more pixels never hurt anybody. This is my first Fuji, and I’d be remiss to ignore the jpeg recipe possibilities. I just swap between Provia and Reggie’s Portra so I can immediately shunt an unedited image to my wife, who is a bit less patient than I am haha.
I’m now completing a 2-week trip in Scotland, and the RF100 got the most use. When the weather turned or I knew I’d want to shoot some short telephoto, I brought out the Z8, which of course performed like a champ in pouring rain with 30-40mph winds. But the size difference between systems cannot be ignored, and the Fuji is the camera I generally always had with me.
p.80 #13 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
RoamingScott wrote:
... I haven't seen a single example ... that seems to obviously benefit from the extra resolution ...
For some people, the main benefit is the high pixel count as this allows them to make larger prints. For those people, the example is not a jpg posted at forum resolution, instead it is a print that is hanging on a wall.
p.80 #14 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
Geoff D F wrote:
Medium format benefits only really show in very large prints or when viewing on very large, high resolution screens. For most uses APS-C is more than enough. I really wonder about the use case for the 100RF? What are the situations where someone is going to need 100mp but is also happy to only have a fixed 28mm f4? I suppose cropping gives different focal lengths, but then one could take an X-e5 with a few small primes for half the cost and similar output.
Or an X-E5 with just the kit 23/2.8 if you like that FOV and call it a day. The X-E5 kit is the most satisfying camera/lens combo I've shot in some time.
100RF shot from the other day below. Was having to shoot at 1/30 sec. to get a workable ISO, so I had one shot without the lighting that was sharp, and the shot with the lightning was slightly soft, so this is a Photoshop merging of the lightning from the soft shot into the sharp shot. On a camera with IBIS, this would have been a one and done shot.
p.80 #15 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
If this camera is perfect for you then that’s wonderful but I do think it should have been the “W” version to a normal that has a 45 or 50mm 3.5. You’re basically right, the only people who are going to see what this camera can do are those who see very large prints made of landscape shots.
p.80 #16 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
theHUN wrote:
For some people, the main benefit is the high pixel count as this allows them to make larger prints. For those people, the example is not a jpg posted at forum resolution, instead it is a print that is hanging on a wall.
I have an EXTREMELY hard time believing that people are buying the RF as a printed-picture-generator instead of a glorified travel cam in the vein of the Q and X100 lines. Most people with high res full frame cameras don't even print as large as they could with those systems by their own admission.
I also think that printing large isn't going to show you the edge greatness of any medium format camera...only a very high resolution monitor will do that, as printer/paper resolution falls far short.
p.80 #17 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
I don't print. I had the idea getting a fixef prime lens camera with 100MP sensor for cropping ability, but the end of the day I rarely crop. Instead I love the ability of zooming on a 4k monitor for details on a scene, it's like getting closer to a hge panoramic print.
p.80 #18 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
highdesertmesa wrote:
Or an X-E5 with just the kit 23/2.8 if you like that FOV and call it a day. The X-E5 kit is the most satisfying camera/lens combo I've shot in some time.
100RF shot from the other day below. Was having to shoot at 1/30 sec. to get a workable ISO, so I had one shot without the lighting that was sharp, and the shot with the lightning was slightly soft, so this is a Photoshop merging of the lightning from the soft shot into the sharp shot. On a camera with IBIS, this would have been a one and done shot....Show more →
Hi Highdesertmesa,
I'm wondering what you find so enjoyable about shooting with the X-E5? I'm interested in getting one. My heart says yes, but my head keeps telling me it can't do anything better than my X-T5. Though I acknowledge there is a lot to be said about shooting with a camera one enjoys shooting with.
p.80 #20 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
Geoff D F wrote:
Hi Highdesertmesa,
I'm wondering what you find so enjoyable about shooting with the X-E5? I'm interested in getting one. My heart says yes, but my head keeps telling me it can't do anything better than my X-T5. Though I acknowledge there is a lot to be said about shooting with a camera one enjoys shooting with.
Geoff
I like the X-E5 because it feels like a small M film camera. I got the SmallRig thumb grip and hand grip, but I prefer using it without them, unlike on the X-M5 or 100VI. I don’t think I’d like it as much with big lenses, but as a p&s with the 23 2.8, it’s great. Build quality is like the 100RF, so it feels like a step up even from the X100VI. The 23 2.8 matches it perfectly — didn’t realize how much so until I tried the 27 2.8 on it, and that lens looks older and out of place by comparison. In any case, it’s definitely not something I would replace an X-T5 with if I were shooting a kit with a diverse set of X lenses. But on its own as a travel camera, I prefer it over something like the M11 with a small 35mm M lens.
