p.4 #1 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
I have a ton of Sony gear, and I ended up pre-ordering this camera. I've recently been bringing my Mamyia 6 on jobs and loving the experience. While this camera is totally different from that, it also allows for a high IQ, has a small form factor, and is easy to pack. Much like the Mamiya. I can bring this along with my typical Sony setup and not tell the difference.
p.4 #2 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
spyderphil wrote:
- i love the crop dial with the magnification lever on the front, you can make any focal length with any crop you want instantly
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- i've no idea about the image quality etc. as it was a store demo
Phil, thanks for the nice bullet list. On your second point above, I can tell you the IQ is great. Beyond great. How do I know? Because it is the same sensor I have been shooting since the day the original GFX 100 came out and that I shoot now with the 100 II and 100S (IR). I haven't seen the lens output, but if Fuji designed a 35 (28) fixed-lens specifically for that camera, it is going to be outstanding IQ. Better than outstanding. It is going to be the very best.... Except for P1, and no one has that camera except 4 Unicorns I know that have popped up on other MF camera forums and that laugh when I call them Unicorns, but those guys don't count, and that camera doesn't count. Why? Because no one has it except a few corporations and some strangely driven very rich Unicorns (even richer than The Tyrant King James Kasson, who is also a Unicorn because he shoots GFX and Hassy!) that only are seen in the wild about as often as snow leopards. 😁
Your point about the crop dial on the back and the mag lever on the front....
I am shocked that Fuji did that. Two physical controls just so people can crop in camera. Astonishing. I just don't get it. I would never change the EVF view to some kind of fake crop for jpeg output because I've shot nothing but raw for so long and for me, cropping is in post and can be done in 3 seconds to a degree that is tailored for each shot vs some predetermined fake established crop that is just for jpeg output. I know some people. especially new shooters, want to see that crop in the frame to help compose.... OK. But not me. Two physical dials just for fake in camera jpeg cropping purposes? No no no no..... Just amazing - but not as amazing as not having stabilization.
OK.... Why am I here on this thread if I'm not buying the camera (the first GFX camera I will not buy)? Well, because it is so beautiful, and I want it so badly. I have dreamed of it for so long. I can't stop thinking about the GFX Q4. But I'm in shock over the no stabilization decision. I just can't get over it. And two physical external controls for fake cropping that no one does min camera? Who does that? Who? Why? When?
Oh, by the way, our official name for the camera in the wild is the GFX Q4. I think we can all agree on that....
p.4 #3 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
Does anyone own the gfx100ii+50mm f3.5 and has considered either buying or not buying this camera? Im still on the fence as the gfx100ii without evf seems comparable in size minus the width from front to back (as maybe the ibis and interchangeable lens mount makes it fatter front to back). Would like to know about some of the experiences or thought processes as to if the gfx100rf would be a good everyday camera for documenting life/family.
p.4 #4 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
Point understood. I like the 'fake' crop as I always like to make the photo what I visualize. The JPEG crop is reference to the moment. The RAW gives you the option to apply what you wanted in the moment or to do something different. Best of both worlds. No downside to me.
Good to hear about the GFX 100 image quality!
p.4 #5 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
hsiunghsiung wrote:
Does anyone own the gfx100ii+50mm f3.5 and has considered either buying or not buying this camera? Im still on the fence as the gfx100ii without evf seems comparable in size minus the width from front to back (as maybe the ibis and interchangeable lens mount makes it fatter front to back). Would like to know about some of the experiences or thought processes as to if the gfx100rf would be a good everyday camera for documenting life / family.
Yes, I do own that camera and lens and yes you should get it if you can afford it and want that image fidelity and that small lens slapped on a big camera, which is sort of cool.
As far as the GFX Q4 being used for documenting travel / family / life? Yes, that is what I do and why I dreamed of the GFX Q4 replacing my Leica Q3. But for travel, documentation, life, family, etc (any handheld shooting really in the Year 2025) why would anyone buy a camera that doesn't have stabilization since you will need it.
Well, the answer is you can't buy a new camera without stab unless you pay 5 grand for the GFX Q4. It does not have stab, which is an incredible development that shocks this Fuji GFX Fanboy into absolute depression.
I want it..... I want it..... I want it..... But it doesn't have stab.
But I might get it anyway, even with those two useless fake and completely unnecessary crop controls sticking out of the camera. 🥸
I think I'm going to get it..... But it has no stab.... I want it. But it has no stab.... It's so pretty.....
p.4 #6 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
hsiunghsiung wrote:
Does anyone own the gfx100ii+50mm f3.5 and has considered either buying or not buying this camera? Im still on the fence as the gfx100ii without evf seems comparable in size minus the width from front to back (as maybe the ibis and interchangeable lens mount makes it fatter front to back). Would like to know about some of the experiences or thought processes as to if the gfx100rf would be a good everyday camera for documenting life/family.
I want a compact camera like this but I don't see any reason to get one since I have gfx100s2+gf50 or gf35-70 for travel. Both are far greater value for me than 100rf, and all of them could fit into the same relatively compact bag.
Maybe Fujifilm will make another RF with 35-70/5.6 (with aperture ring and IBIS). I will get one and it will never leave my side ever
p.4 #7 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
For my use, lack of ibis is not the end of the world. I’d be shooting documentary and travel images with the camera…most times needing a faster shutter to freeze movement. I do very little still photography of buildings or other subjects during my travels…and when I do I usually am shooting off a tripod.
I love the size of the camera, the focal range covered by digital cropping and ultimate image quality. I wish it had a faster lens…but that’s not a deal breaker as most of my images include the environment surrounding the subject.
Now to decide between this camera or an A7Cr with 3 compact primes.
p.4 #8 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
Greg7579 wrote:
Yes, I do own that camera and lens and yes you should get it if you can afford it and want that image fidelity and that small lens slapped on a big camera, which is sort of cool.
As far as the GFX Q4 being used for documenting travel / family / life? Yes, that is what I do and why I dreamed of the GFX Q4 replacing my Leica Q3. But for travel, documentation, life, family, etc (any handheld shooting really in the Year 2025) why would anyone buy a camera that doesn't have stabilization since you will need it.
Well, the answer is you can't buy a new camera without stab unless you pay 5 grand for the GFX Q4. It does not have stab, which is an incredible development that shocks this Fuji GFX Fanboy into absolute depression.
I want it..... I want it..... I want it..... But it doesn't have stab.
But I might get it anyway, even with those two useless fake and completely unnecessary crop controls sticking out of the camera. 🥸
I think I'm going to get it..... But it has no stab.... I want it. But it has no stab.... It's so pretty........Show more →
You might do what I did and go through some segment of your shooting … for me it was three weeks in South Korea with my X2D and XCD 38mm f/2.5 v. I looked at my metadata and it made clear that I need the stabilization. On the other hand I took the Leica M11 Monochrom, which I used a good bit more than the X2D and I didn’t have stabilization, but that camera shoots at ISO 12000 without any issues at all. Between the two cameras I had three lenses, so I certainly missed lots of images that might have needed longer glass..or cropped. All that said, I considered taking only film cameras, in which case I would have returned with many good images, but they would have been of differing subjects, environments and so on. My point is that no IBIS is a limitation as is a fixed focal length f/4.0 lens, You can work around these limitations, or take other cameras, such as another medium format with IBIS and increased weight/size, or a small camera like the A7CR with great small lenses and IBIS..but lower MPix. Part of the joy of shooting is choosing your equipment and making the most of it. What won’t work is someone buying this camera as a do-all camera, because it isn’t that, but since you want it, have a clear use for it and based upon your history, your family will still have a roof to sleep under.. why not get it… Make it work.. Me.. I have the A7CR for small and IBIS.
p.4 #9 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
Jun Zhou wrote:
i will wait for another 5 years when version II is released with IBIS
! Me too. We will call it the GFX Q5.
Five years from now? We won't need IBIS because we might not need a sensor. We won't need OIS because there might not be a lens.
The GFX Q5 will just be a little box with a chip and a microphone. Just pick it up and say, "Generate me a picture of the Pyramids with a giraffe at the top and pink skies in the background with U2 playing at the base in front of 50,000 people."
You get a perfect shot sent to your device at whatever resolution you state.
The GFX Q6. No IBIS. No OIS. No lens. No sensor. No crop knob. No zoom lever.
p.4 #11 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
A part of me is inclined towards the gfx100rf over the gfx100ii without evf for:
1) leaf shutter so even in quiet places, there won't be sound like from the gfx100ii mechanical shutter. Im not a fan of electronic shutter unless it proves to not degrade image quality as much or have weird lines from light flicker or something.
2) Looks like its nicer to hold in the hand vs a bulky gfx100ii (but again, I havent held either). I might have to add a handle or use the rx100 sticker grip or something for extra grip.
3) I might feel less embarassed taking out the gfx100rf instead of the gfx100ii for its compact size? So in theory, I might take it out more in public to take stills. Might be more fun this way.
4) Cheaper package all around as the used prices of the gfx100ii with lens might be closer to 6000+
Some negatives:
1) No IBIS (well established in these threads). Might need to experiment with what my minimal confortable shutter speed is.
2) F4 (doesnt bother me too much I think as I hope post recovery is ok with the MF sensor)
3) I will prob have to always have the extra filter adapter on (adding bulk) as I'd prefer some front filter to protect the lens
4) 4k 30p video limitation (as I usually like mine to be 4k60p) for videos in a pinch
p.4 #12 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
RoamingScott wrote:
This is the EXACT use case this camera solves, to be fair.
Especially if you’ve already stated you don’t care about the IBIS. I will say that I use both 17mm and 21 mm with my A7CR. My fastest lens is the 24mm f/1.4 ..not small and longest the Sigma 90mm small and a great lens. Also, full line of Loxia lenses available..but this is a totally different approach than the Fuji. Downside of the Sony is the EVF and back to carrying a camera bag.
p.4 #13 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
Ok I am writing this reply from the hotel where all the other X summit guests and myself are staying in Prague.
I had the chance to toy & test the camera for the last ten days and I'll enjoy it a few extra ones back in Belgium.
p.4 #14 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
RoamingScott wrote:
It seems that most of the youtube reviews mention that the lack of IBIS, while unfortunate, is somewhat mitigated by the leaf shutter.
I think most people who are used to using the X100V will know exactly what they mean. You can get slow, but not IBIS-capable slow.
Nice to see lots of love for the aspect ratio dial. I do wish 65:24 was closer to 4:3 instead of 3 clicks away, with lowly 16:9 between them.
During my long test at no point at all was I worried by the lack of IBIS.
Just push the ISOS, it holds super great.
p.4 #15 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
Greg7579 wrote: . 1/30 second with no stabilization? Maybe with a monopod like I used to use with the 50r. Or maybe if you shoot a 10mm lens. 😁
That is, unless you don't want a GFX file to look at like a GFX file at full res.
I don't know if on this thread I already mentioned about how unhappy I am with this terrible decision approved by the Fuji CEO concerning lack of stabilization on the GFX Q4. And I hope this response is to my old friend - High Desert Mesa! (I've been responding to the wrong guys a lot as I attempt to correct their often-mistaken notions). . ...Show more →
Hey Greg! You need the monopod with the 50R for all the reasons outlined already – giant shutter, awkward handling, and large lenses. The 100RF will be fine at 1/30 if you're steady, pay attention to technique, and take a few extra frames as insurance. I hope to find out anyway
p.4 #16 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
bwcolor wrote:
Especially if you’ve already stated you don’t care about the IBIS. I will say that I use both 17mm and 21 mm with my A7CR. My fastest lens is the 24mm f/1.4 ..not small and longest the Sigma 90mm small and a great lens. Also, full line of Loxia lenses available..but this is a totally different approach than the Fuji. Downside of the Sony is the EVF and back to carrying a camera bag.
A big part of photography and getting unique shots is lowering friction. If you can punch in with the flick of a toggle, you're not futzing with exchanging a 28mm lens with a 50mm.
This camera puts so many little things at your fingertips that it feels like a camera that will get you more shots than you'd usually get. Many times on my X100 I feel hamstrung by the 26mp when it comes to cropping or even playing with other aspect ratios, but those worries evaporate here, and they can all be done in the field, instantly.
p.4 #19 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
RoamingScott wrote:
Most people who have the most experience with this line of tech aren't concerned, me included.
How'd you find the AF motor performance? About the same as the X100 line?I do own 2 Fuji bodies back in Brussels and it's far better/quicker than my X100V/GFX50SII. I would say it's pretty much the same as the GFX 100 II or GFX 100s II that I worked with on commercial jobs. But that's a feeling I got, not from precise tests back to back in the same situations.
Don't worry about it it's super fast.
p.4 #20 · Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion and Image Thread
RoamingScott wrote:
This is the EXACT use case this camera solves, to be fair.
Yes, sort of. I can take faster primes with the A7cr. But like I said, most of my shooting includes the environment and at f5.6 or f8…but there are instances where I had to go to ISO 12,800 and f2 t get the shot.