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Nikon Z 35mm 1.2 S - Official Image Thread

  
 
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I will take one Joe McNally over 10 Julia's. Nikon actually added a few more over the years, they're not all old people. One of the newer ones I like is this person here: https://www.instagram.com/d.annboal/



Not my cup of tea but D'Ann's photos are heavily stylized and as such they're heavy on post production/photoshop. Nothing natural about them but then again that's okay.



Feb 06, 2025 at 02:25 AM
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p.6 #2 · Nikon Z 35mm 1.2 S - Official Image Thread


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For $2800 I think I'll stick with my CV 35/2 APO.


I own the Z CV 35/2 APO and I too will not swap it for an excessively large and heavy lens. I agree with those who say that the two lenses (MF CV 35/2 and AF 35/1.2 S) are not comparable. However, I wonder how Nikon photographers have managed to produce images over the past decades without a 35/1.2 lens in F- or Z-mount

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Feb 06, 2025 at 03:01 AM
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robert_in_ca wrote:
Not my cup of tea but D'Ann's photos are heavily stylized and as such they're heavy on post production/photoshop. Nothing natural about them but then again that's okay.


The images that I've seen from her seem mostly natural to me, a couple have had obvious edits (beauty dish in a girl's arms replaced by the moon, strings that are used to hang the flowers in air seem to have been edited out in post, but most images seem to me just photographs (there is lighting and some props, but also a lot of natural light).



Feb 06, 2025 at 03:01 AM
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p.6 #4 · Nikon Z 35mm 1.2 S - Official Image Thread


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Nikon have Matt Irwin. From Stralia.

His "first look" video on the 1.2 S didn't convince me. There was absolutely no objectivity, just all praise for the lens. It's very well presented, but it's as if the presentation took over the content. At least Julia spotted a few issues with it, even if they're somewhat minor and one of them (the fringing) should be expected of a wide-open 1.2.

She's often doing models because that's her job, granted, but the locations are varied and there are vlogs not involving models. Many other reviewers have their own "monotonous" way of reviewing lenses, like Christopher Frost, Dustin Abbott, PetaPixel (which is more a show than a serious review channel), etc. That's not really a bad thing; they have their own methodologies and provide complementary points of view, so I know what sort of information I can expect from each of them. If I want to buy a new lens, I'm not going to listen to just one reviewer.



Feb 06, 2025 at 04:01 AM
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It makes no sense that the 35 would be that much more expensive than the 85 1.2 or Plena. I assume a bit of this depends on where it's made...if it's Japan, they can skirt the tariffs, but if it's China...


I don't know if that'd apply to a Japanese brand, though? I have no idea of that works, really. Anyway, the good news is that in one video review - I think Matt Irwin's - you can spot a "made in Thailand" on the lens.



Feb 06, 2025 at 04:19 AM
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Exactly. You get more of a full picture by watching multiple videos on something. There's never just one good source for these things. You basically take them all, roll them together and get one giant opinion about it and make your decision from there.
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His "first look" video on the 1.2 S didn't convince me. There was absolutely no objectivity, just all praise for the lens. It's very well presented, but it's as if the presentation took over the content. At least Julia spotted a few issues with it, even if they're somewhat minor and one of them (the fringing) should be expected of a wide-open 1.2.

She's often doing models because that's her job, granted, but the locations are varied and there are vlogs not involving models. Many other reviewers have their own "monotonous" way of reviewing lenses, like Christopher Frost, Dustin Abbott, PetaPixel
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Feb 06, 2025 at 06:41 AM
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Unscript wrote:
His "first look" video on the 1.2 S didn't convince me. There was absolutely no objectivity, just all praise for the lens. It's very well presented, but it's as if the presentation took over the content. At least Julia spotted a few issues with it, even if they're somewhat minor and one of them (the fringing) should be expected of a wide-open 1.2.

She's often doing models because that's her job, granted, but the locations are varied and there are vlogs not involving models. Many other reviewers have their own "monotonous" way of reviewing lenses, like Christopher Frost, Dustin Abbott, PetaPixel
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I honestly do not find the fringing acceptable given the size and price of this lens. It should not be there.



Feb 06, 2025 at 08:16 AM
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I honestly do not find the fringing acceptable given the size and price of this lens. It should not be there.


I think the bigger problem there was the overexposure of the sky (it seemed to be completely blown out at that point where Julia was talking about the fringing). I would be surprised if any comparable lens survived that test without any fringing. If you do a similar thing in log video at base ISO (800) exposing for the face, there might not be any visible fringing evident since in those photos, it was likely triggered by saturating the sensor (which is much more likely to happen in SDR). Anyway, a lens is a compromise of characteristics, you pick the set of characteristics which works best for your needs.



Feb 06, 2025 at 08:56 AM
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I always got the sense that a lot of her work is 85% actual planning the concept and depending on the image 10% photoshop. She is excellent in all aspects of it.
robert_in_ca wrote:
Not my cup of tea but D'Ann's photos are heavily stylized and as such they're heavy on post production/photoshop. Nothing natural about them but then again that's okay.





Feb 06, 2025 at 11:04 AM
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Julia's whole look is shooting natural light, even in a situation where actually incorporating some off camera flash would actually benefit the image. She is one photographer that I wouldn't swear by for judging a lens. Her work is good at least, it's just recognizing what her look is tailored for.
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I think the bigger problem there was the overexposure of the sky (it seemed to be completely blown out at that point where Julia was talking about the fringing). I would be surprised if any comparable lens survived that test without any fringing. If you do a similar thing in log video at base ISO (800) exposing for the face, there might not be any visible fringing evident since in those photos, it was likely triggered by saturating the sensor (which is much more likely to happen in SDR). Anyway, a lens is a compromise of characteristics, you pick the
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Feb 06, 2025 at 12:50 PM
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This video just shows how good the Sigma is- Crazy how good that lens looks in a side by side-

For half the price, if you don't mind the adapter, the Sigma looks impressive. If I was Nikon, I wouldn't let that become a native mount lens. Seems a bit odd honestly to compare it when its an initial launch video.

Hey look at this new Nikon lens, also check out this Sigma that looks just as good-









Feb 06, 2025 at 01:38 PM
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I do think the Nikon looks slightly better there. But not $1,800 better. I also think it does look slightly better than my 35/1.4 GM….but again, not twice the weight and size and $1,700 better.


Feb 06, 2025 at 02:37 PM
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I laughed out loud when I saw the size of this lens.

Yikes.



Feb 06, 2025 at 03:21 PM
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RustyRus wrote:
This video just shows how good the Sigma is- Crazy how good that lens looks in a side by side-

For half the price, if you don't mind the adapter, the Sigma looks impressive. If I was Nikon, I wouldn't let that become a native mount lens. Seems a bit odd honestly to compare it when its an initial launch video.

Hey look at this new Nikon lens, also check out this Sigma that looks just as good-




All opinion, but the Sigma looked to have busy, slightly distracting bokeh to me and the swirly look. However, I’m not going to pass judgment on lenses based on two side by side pictures. That would be crazy.



Feb 06, 2025 at 03:41 PM
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Jman13 wrote:
I do think the Nikon looks slightly better there. But not $1,800 better. I also think it does look slightly better than my 35/1.4 GM….but again, not twice the weight and size and $1,700 better.


Where are you finding the Sigma 35 1.2 for $1,000 and the Sony 35 1.4 for $1,100? Even on sale the Sony is $1,300 (MSRP $1,400). The Sigma is $1,500. The Nikon is still much more expensive, but then again all of Sigma's lenses are significantly less than the Nikon/Sony/Canon equivalents. The Canon and Sony f/1.2s are in the same price range as Nikon's f/1.2s. Until Sony or Canon make a 35 f/1.2 that's significantly less, it's hard to say that Nikon is overcharging for this new lens.



Feb 06, 2025 at 03:45 PM
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Wezre wrote:
Where are you finding the Sigma 35 1.2 for $1,000 and the Sony 35 1.4 for $1,100? Even on sale the Sony is $1,300 (MSRP $1,400). The Sigma is $1,500. The Nikon is still much more expensive, but then again all of Sigma's lenses are significantly less than the Nikon/Sony/Canon equivalents. The Canon and Sony f/1.2s are in the same price range as Nikon's f/1.2s. Until Sony or Canon make a 35 f/1.2 that's significantly less, it's hard to say that Nikon is overcharging for this new lens.


Clearly talking about the used market, which doesn't yet exist for the Z. The GM is easily findable under $1000 if you're patient: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1890193/0?keyword=35,gm#16745411



Feb 06, 2025 at 03:50 PM
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Wezre wrote:
Where are you finding the Sigma 35 1.2 for $1,000 and the Sony 35 1.4 for $1,100? Even on sale the Sony is $1,300 (MSRP $1,400). The Sigma is $1,500. The Nikon is still much more expensive, but then again all of Sigma's lenses are significantly less than the Nikon/Sony/Canon equivalents. The Canon and Sony f/1.2s are in the same price range as Nikon's f/1.2s. Until Sony or Canon make a 35 f/1.2 that's significantly less, it's hard to say that Nikon is overcharging for this new lens.


The Sigma is actually discontinued in e-mount right now, so I was looking at used prices on MPB, where it's available for $1,000. The Sony I did use the amount I paid for my used copy, so you are correct that the better comparison would be '$1,500 better' for the current new price for the Sony.

Ultimately, this Nikon does look to be really, really outstanding optically (though still not perfect, with some longitudinal CA creeping in here and there). Perhaps the best AF 35mm lens on the market. I still think they priced it about $600-$700 too high given what else is out there.

Looking at about the only other f/1.4 top tier lens to f/1.2 top tier lens from a 1st party manufacturer, Sony charges $1,300 for their 50mm f/1.4 GM, and $2,000 for their 50mm f/1.2 GM. That's a fairly hefty 53% markup for 1/3 stop. (Edit: I forgot, Canon just released their 50mm f/1.4 VCM L as well, which is $1,400 vs $2,300, which is a higher 64% markup...still would put a theoretical 35/1.2L at $2450.)

When you look at MSRP for the Sony 35/1.4 GM and the Canon 35/1.4 VCM, which are $1,400 and $1,500 respectively, that would put an equivalent markup for a 35/1.2 in the $2,150 to $2,300 price range. Nikon is charging an additional $500 on top of that, and that makes it a hard sell. Especially since in real world usage, the difference between f/1.4 and f/1.2 is fairly minimal.

Of course, in Nikon's case, it's much more stark, where going from 35mm f/1.4 to 35mm f/1.2 is a 367% markup, but of course, these are different lens classes in the Z system.



Feb 06, 2025 at 03:51 PM
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It will be a very nice lens to purchase on the used market at 40% off MSRP. It will likely follow similar price trajectory as 85 1.2 ($2800+tax new vs $1900 used looking at recent sales here on FM).


Feb 06, 2025 at 04:07 PM
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lukemeup wrote:
It will be a very nice lens to purchase on the used market at 40% off MSRP. It will likely follow similar price trajectory as 85 1.2 ($2800+tax new vs $1900 used looking at recent sales here on FM).


I think you are probably right- this is one of those lenses that will tempt a lot of people due to its fast aperture, but most won’t find they use it due to weight and offload it- .




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