docusync wrote:
Yep, that's odd, right? Apparently they decided to resurface the thing from DSLRs.
Have you tried to shoot soccer with the new action mode yet?
I prefer to just focus on shooting so for me that feature was missing in the R5I, I know a lot of people don't care but for me, the automation (as long as it works) is positive.
I did not shoot soccer with it yet, the session is over for us. I tried it on a fast-moving subject and it works well.
Yaniv wrote:
I prefer to just focus on shooting so for me that feature was missing in the R5I, I know a lot of people don't care but for me, the automation (as long as it works) is positive.
I did not shoot soccer with it yet, the session is over for us. I tried it on a fast-moving subject and it works well.
It didn't work well on the 5DsR as far as I remember. Sometimes it failed to switch to Servo and remained in One Shot. It was a while ago, when PDAF had like under 60 pixels or something I'm pretty sure it should work just fine in new cameras.
rscheffler wrote:
Is there an advantage to this over using Servo all the time, which has been my method for ages? Servo used to be twitchy on stationary subjects but I haven't noticed this with recent cameras. My concern with such an 'AI' mode is that on occasion it might not switch to Servo when it should.
I think it is more helpful to those who don't use back button focus. As a long-time BBF user, I agree with your assessment and generally just keep my camera on AI-Servo.
I think newer cameras and lenses are generally less twitchy but not all, unfortunately. I still see this behavior from time to time on Canon's STM primes. I have actually used AI Focus at times with those lenses.
rscheffler wrote:
Is there an advantage to this over using Servo all the time, which has been my method for ages? Servo used to be twitchy on stationary subjects but I haven't noticed this with recent cameras. My concern with such an 'AI' mode is that on occasion it might not switch to Servo when it should.
If you shoot a static subject, you need to move the focus point to it, I don't like to do it as it takes too much time, I look through the EVF, find the subject, and move the focus point to it by moving the camera, (in a field of flowers, for example, the camera does not know where the subject is) recompose, and shoot.
I know you can remove your eye from the EVF touch the screen to move the focus point or scroll the wheel to get the focus to the right place but for me I prefer the old way of moving the camera and recomposing.
Yaniv wrote:
If you shoot a static subject, you need to move the focus point to it, I don't like to do it as it takes too much time, I look through the EVF, find the subject, and move the focus point to it by moving the camera, (in a field of flowers, for example, the camera does not know where the subject is) recompose, and shoot.
I know you can remove your eye from the EVF touch the screen to move the focus point or scroll the wheel to get the focus to the right place but for me I prefer the old way of moving the camera and recomposing. ...Show more →
There is nothing wrong with focus-and-recompose per se. It was my go-to method on cameras that were inconsistent with anything other than the center AF point, like the 5D Mark II and the 6D. However, it tends to fail when using very wide apertures at close distances, and fortunately we don't need to rely on it today.
FWIW, on bodies so equipped, the simplest way to control the AF point is with the AF joystick usually. (Weirdly, Canon still requires you to turn on direct AF point selection via a custom function, despite that being the whole raison d'etre of this control.) You don't have to remove your eye from the EVF while using it.
garyvot wrote:
There is nothing wrong with focus-and-recompose per se. It was my go-to method on cameras that were inconsistent with anything other than the center AF point, like the 5D Mark II and the 6D. However, it tends to fail when using very wide apertures at close distances, and fortunately we don't need to rely on it today.
FWIW, on bodies so equipped, the simplest way to control the AF point is with the AF joystick usually. (Weirdly, Canon still requires you to turn on direct AF point selection via a custom function, despite that being the whole raison d'etre of this control.) You don't have to remove your eye from the EVF while using it....Show more →
You are right, I am aware of that, but for me choosing a focus point is too complicated on a mirrorless body.
I know I should just try to move to the new way of doing things but so far the old way is working for me so I keep using it :-)
Yaniv wrote:
You are right, I am aware of that, but for me choosing a focus point is too complicated on a mirrorless body.
I know I should just try to move to the new way of doing things but so far the old way is working for me so I keep using it :-)
Yaniv wrote:
You are right, I am aware of that, but for me choosing a focus point is too complicated on a mirrorless body.
I know I should just try to move to the new way of doing things but so far the old way is working for me so I keep using it :-)
There's this newfangled feature in the R5II called eye control focus. Try it. It's super fast at putting the focus point wherever you look and is absolutely uncomplicated.
rscheffler wrote:
Is there an advantage to this over using Servo all the time, which has been my method for ages? Servo used to be twitchy on stationary subjects but I haven't noticed this with recent cameras. My concern with such an 'AI' mode is that on occasion it might not switch to Servo when it should.
garyvot wrote:
I think it is more helpful to those who don't use back button focus. As a long-time BBF user, I agree with your assessment and generally just keep my camera on AI-Servo.
I think newer cameras and lenses are generally less twitchy but not all, unfortunately. I still see this behavior from time to time on Canon's STM primes. I have actually used AI Focus at times with those lenses.
For me this was one of the major benefits of BBF - just release the button and focus is locked just like in One Shot, but you could instantly go back to Servo when needed.
Yes, I noticed that the RF 50/1.8 can be kind of twitchy in Servo...
artsupreme wrote:
Was down at the beach for a maternity shoot and saw some cool looking birds. These RAW files were converted on an old machine that can't handle heavy editing in LR without crashing so there has been no NR or proper processing done on them.
Those Skimmer images look great. What kind of keeper rate were you getting on the in-flight shots?
vbnut wrote:
Those Skimmer images look great. What kind of keeper rate were you getting on the in-flight shots?
Thanks. I would say I got a high hit rate considering it was a 300 with a 2x TC. I don't like bird photos against a plain blue sky so I was shooting low flying sequences against backgrounds, which is harder work for the camera. The only issue I encountered was infamous ML focus rack issue where if your telephoto is far off the focus plane it won't snap quickly onto a bird that's much closer/farther away. The R1 might address this issue but other than that I would say the R5II did a good job with BIF sequences from all angles.
I believe the real R5II AF test will be when those of you who shoot the small/fast erratic birds get your R5II's next week.
Sashi wrote:
Absolutely. As I mentioned in the other thread, I am going on a trip starting Aug 22nd. That's why I did not pre-order, since deliveries were supposed to start Aug 20th. The plan is to come back from my trip in Sep, walk into B&H and then pick one up. Will be a hefty purchase (camera, RF-EF control ring adapter, CFExpress card and reader and a spare battery). My 40D will be passed onto my oldest and eventually my three EF lenses as I switch over to RF.
I gave in. Just got off the phone with B&H. They have 300 cameras coming in to the store on the 20th, and their backorder is 130. I got in an order to pick up in the store on the 20th or the 21st. To confirm, this is not a guaranteed order, but is based on the stocks estimates they are expected to receive and the in-store orders they have on hand.
REITERATING that this is for IN-STORE pickups only. Hopefully, I'll get mine on the 20th or the 21st before I leave for my trip in the 22nd.
If there are is anyone in the NY/NJ area, heads-up that they can call B&H and hopefully land one from the physical store.
I'm pretty sure it should work just fine in new cameras.
