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p.7 #1 · Canon R5 Mark II Image Thread


gkinard1952 wrote:
Don't know about the 100-300 lens. No experience. But, I was never impressed with the 300II with converters. Or the 300 IS for that matter. My copies showed a huge hit when using a TC. Unless you were right on top of the bird.
IMO once you really get into it you will not want to use TC's on any Canon lenses for birding.
just take a look at the quality of the RF 800 and 1200 mm lenses. If you want to see what a 2x is like on a Canon lens.



I see no difference with the 1.4x and there is a small hit with the 2x, but this is based on the ML era bodies. I believe you still shoot with an old 7D and that makes a huge difference. I was never fond of using TC's in the DSLR days, but as someone else mentioned TC's have a new life with ML and I have no problem using them. Something else that has changed dramatically is the editing software. So nowadays any small hit you might take with a 2x TC can be much easier rectified in post processing. The photos above were not processed very well other than some levels adjustments and could look much better if properly denoised, sharpened, etc.



Aug 11, 2024 at 12:49 PM
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p.7 #2 · Canon R5 Mark II Image Thread


Interesting set up! I did not know there was a option for an RF teleconverter + EF lens combo. I am still using EF teleconverters on my EF prime lenses. Very curious to see if the R5m2 helps the autofocus of the EF combos I use.


Aug 11, 2024 at 01:00 PM
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p.7 #3 · Canon R5 Mark II Image Thread


BokehBeauty wrote:
Let me ask, are you happy with skintone? To me it‘s too pale or may be it’s the green reflection from the gras. If you made a similar observation, is it a R5 II characteristic or of the RAW converter. Does DPP already support the camera?


That's probably just me / my processing. I didn't use a gray card or a color checker, so I'm not quite sure if WB is accurate, I just processed to my taste
Based on my experience with the original R5, the successor requires less temp/tint corrections (but again, to my eyes).



Aug 11, 2024 at 01:58 PM
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p.7 #4 · Canon R5 Mark II Image Thread


artsupreme wrote:
A few more randoms


Nice shots! I recognise that these photos were taken in the Huntington Beach area that is about and hour+ drive from where I am at.



Aug 11, 2024 at 02:04 PM
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p.7 #5 · Canon R5 Mark II Image Thread


docusync wrote:
That's probably just me / my processing. I didn't use a gray card or a color checker, so I'm not quite sure if WB is accurate, I just processed to my taste
Based on my experience with the original R5, the successor requires less temp/tint corrections (but again, to my eyes).


Thank you for reporting your observation. Better AWB is always much appreciated by me.

On the DR side the R5 II is no surprise, see my message on Bill Claff‘s sensor measurement
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1868101/3#16614710.



Aug 11, 2024 at 02:12 PM
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p.7 #6 · Canon R5 Mark II Image Thread


The sunset . . .






Edited on Aug 11, 2024 at 08:53 PM · View previous versions



Aug 11, 2024 at 04:26 PM
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p.7 #7 · Canon R5 Mark II Image Thread


artsupreme wrote:
Yes, RF 2x was in place and those shots were all at 600mm handheld. It just doesn't report properly with the RF 2x and adapter.


Are the RF converters better than the EF TC's? As far as sharpness goes? Optically.




Aug 11, 2024 at 04:46 PM
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p.7 #8 · Canon R5 Mark II Image Thread


gkinard1952 wrote:
Are the RF converters better than the EF TC's? As far as sharpness goes?



No, I can't tell a difference when using them on EF lenses. But I will say the EF TC vIII's came alive with ML. I'm just trying to get rid of all my EF stuff so I'm using the RF TC now.



Aug 11, 2024 at 04:48 PM
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p.7 #9 · Canon R5 Mark II Image Thread


artsupreme wrote:
No, I can't tell a difference when using them on EF lenses. But I will say the EF TC vIII's came alive with ML. I'm just trying to get rid of all my EF stuff so I'm using the RF TC now.


Good to know , Thanks



Aug 11, 2024 at 08:54 PM
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p.7 #10 · Canon R5 Mark II Image Thread


gkinard1952 wrote:
Don't know about the 100-300 lens. No experience. But, I was never impressed with the 300II with converters. Or the 300 IS for that matter. My copies showed a huge hit when using a TC. Unless you were right on top of the bird.
IMO once you really get into it you will not want to use TC's on any Canon lenses for birding.
just take a look at the quality of the RF 800 and 1200 mm lenses. If you want to see what a 2x is like on a Canon lens.


It's much more noticeable on a crop sensor body. The pixels are much smaller, and in order for each pixel to "resolve" the lens quality should be flawless.

5DsR vs 7D EF300II+2x resolution test: https://bit.ly/4dIl1IV

I was testing a big motorized gimbal on my backyard birds ~5 years ago. The photos below were shot with the 300/2.8II + 2x mounted on the EOS R (5Dmk4 sensor), no sharpening or extra processing. To my eyes the birds' eyes are quite sharp. I don't want to post actual pictures since they are not related to the R5II, but here are the links:

1/50s, f/6.3, ISO 500 https://photostream.us/#/photo/3577
1/200s, f/5.6, ISO 400 https://photostream.us/#/photo/3584

I can't wait to get the 100-300, but my dealer let me down lol. Hopefully next week, or I'll just buy from B&H... The soccer season starts next Sunday!



Aug 11, 2024 at 09:24 PM
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p.7 #11 · Canon R5 Mark II Image Thread


A little bit of macro with the RF100/2.8, no flash.
F/4, ISO1600-2000 denoised in LR

https://gallery-api.medolap.com/api/file/any/3a0c64c9-2dcf-4591-815d-208637a89964?width=4000&height=3000&quality=100&ext=.jpg
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BTW the camera can recognize an insect as an "object" but unlike the A9III does not specifically supports insect AF (in the "Animal" category). I.e. it won't focus on the head/eyes.



Aug 14, 2024 at 02:35 AM
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p.7 #12 · Canon R5 Mark II Image Thread


R5210510.jpg by Dmitry Brodsky, on Flickr


Aug 14, 2024 at 10:35 AM
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p.7 #13 · Canon R5 Mark II Image Thread


I tested the AI Focus, the newly added feature to the Mark II. The idea is to let the camera switch between one shot and Servo.
It works surprisingly well, when you focus and recompose it acts like one shot but when the subject moves it acts as Servo.

Nicely done Canon.







Aug 15, 2024 at 12:10 AM
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R5211735 by Dmitry Brodsky, on Flickr

R5211834.jpg by Dmitry Brodsky, on Flickr




Aug 15, 2024 at 12:11 AM
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p.7 #15 · Canon R5 Mark II Image Thread


I typically shoot just raw on my R5 l, will take a look at cRaw and educate myself on the differences.

artsupreme wrote:
BTW, is there anyone who doesn't shoot 99% cRAW anymore?




Aug 15, 2024 at 10:15 AM
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skasol wrote:
I typically shoot just raw on my R5 l, will take a look at cRaw and educate myself on the differences.




https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-R5-Mark-II.aspx#FileSizeandMedia

The RAW vs. C-RAW image quality difference Canon has shared with me is that the C-RAW file format may potentially show more noise in shadows when increasing brightness during post-processing. I processed Canon EOS R3 standard RAW and CRAW images with a +3 EV setting, pushing the exposure by three stops. Even at high ISO settings, it is challenging (impossible?) to find a difference in this comparison, and even darker subjects than those shared from the same test images showed no discernable disadvantage to the C-RAW format.

In a very high percentage of uses, you will struggle to see any difference in your C-RAW vs. RAW results. I've asked Canon to provide a C-RAW output option in Canon Digital Photo Professional (DPP), allowing the photographer to later determine which archive format to select. This option would enable mass compression of entire archives, saving considerable amounts of disk space.[/I]


https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Canon-Cameras/Canon-C-RAW-Image-File-Format.aspx



Aug 15, 2024 at 11:47 AM
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Yaniv wrote:
I tested the AI Focus, the newly added feature to the Mark II. The idea is to let the camera switch between one shot and Servo.
It works surprisingly well, when you focus and recompose it acts like one shot but when the subject moves it acts as Servo.

Nicely done Canon.


Is there an advantage to this over using Servo all the time, which has been my method for ages? Servo used to be twitchy on stationary subjects but I haven't noticed this with recent cameras. My concern with such an 'AI' mode is that on occasion it might not switch to Servo when it should.


docusync wrote:
I can't wait to get the 100-300, but my dealer let me down lol. Hopefully next week, or I'll just buy from B&H... The soccer season starts next Sunday!


It's a fabulous lens. If you don't already have them, get at least the 1.4x TC, which I found essential for field sports, at least on 24MP. I did not see any drop in image quality compared to non-TC images.

I'll be interested to see your results and thoughts on how the AF system compares to the competition (a9III) for sports. Be sure to shoot some with fast ball action to give an idea whether the 'slow' stacked sensor (compared to the competition) has any real world impact on fast object distortion.



Aug 15, 2024 at 02:14 PM
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p.7 #18 · Canon R5 Mark II Image Thread


Yaniv wrote:
I tested the AI Focus, the newly added feature to the Mark II. The idea is to let the camera switch between one shot and Servo.
It works surprisingly well, when you focus and recompose it acts like one shot but when the subject moves it acts as Servo.

Nicely done Canon.


I believe the 5D series DSLRs have this feature. At least my 5DsR had it for sure.
I even checked the manual just in case https://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/9/0300018669/05/eos5ds-5dsr-im6-en.pdf page 86.


While looking at the LCD panel or in
the viewfinder, turn the dial.
One-Shot AF
AI Focus AF
AI Servo AF



Aug 15, 2024 at 03:08 PM
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docusync wrote:
I believe the 5D series DSLRs have this feature. At least my 5DsR had it for sure.
I even checked the manual just in case https://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/9/0300018669/05/eos5ds-5dsr-im6-en.pdf page 86.


While looking at the LCD panel or in
the viewfinder, turn the dial.
One-Shot AF
AI Focus AF
AI Servo AF


The original R5 did not have it This is new for Mark II







Aug 15, 2024 at 03:15 PM
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p.7 #20 · Canon R5 Mark II Image Thread


Yaniv wrote:
The original R5 did not have it


Yep, that's odd, right? Apparently they decided to resurface the thing from DSLRs.

Have you tried to shoot soccer with the new action mode yet?


rscheffler wrote:
It's a fabulous lens. If you don't already have them, get at least the 1.4x TC, which I found essential for field sports, at least on 24MP. I did not see any drop in image quality compared to non-TC images.

I'll be interested to see your results and thoughts on how the AF system compares to the competition (a9III) for sports. Be sure to shoot some with fast ball action to give an idea whether the 'slow' stacked sensor (compared to the competition) has any real world impact on fast object distortion.


The lens should be here tomorrow!
I got both TCs, Lifeguard-design wrap and a replacement foot with a QD socket. Fully prepared . I will definitely try the 1.4x because it'll be close to what I currently have with Sony (400GM).
The R3 (rental) was very close to the A9III hit rate at 30fps, so I'm expecting the R5II to surpass, but we'll see... I'll report back on Sun/Mon.

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