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p.3 #1 · p.3 #1 · New Pixii camera launch


Stacked sensor seems possible because of Nikon using it. But another, maybe lower cost alternative, would be Alpha 7S III sensor which has very little rolling shutter. Maybe far fetched to use a 12pm sensor but it's a thought.

If could be a home run if they addressed the short base-length RF and it's blockage problem with larger lens barrels.


Jul 03, 2024 at 03:53 PM
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p.3 #2 · p.3 #2 · New Pixii camera launch


It's official.
Jul 03, 2024 at 06:26 PM
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p.3 #3 · p.3 #3 · New Pixii camera launch


Yes, from Pixi email:

"The production of the camera has already started, but the main activities will extend throughout the Summer as we gradually gather all of the components on the Bill Of Materials. It will take us about 2 months, ie 8 weeks, to get there. That’s the average lead time of our supply chain.

The main course, the sensor, takes relatively more time to be produced. We have secured an allocation for the first production runs, but initial quantities will still be limited.

We anticipate a very high demand for Pixii Max.

So we will start taking pre-orders this week, on July 5, with initial deliveries planned for September."
Jul 03, 2024 at 06:45 PM
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p.3 #4 · p.3 #4 · New Pixii camera launch


So, uhhh, why didn’t they make this from the beginning?
Jul 03, 2024 at 07:44 PM
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p.3 #5 · p.3 #5 · New Pixii camera launch


Ask Leica about the M8?


Jul 03, 2024 at 07:45 PM
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p.3 #6 · p.3 #6 · New Pixii camera launch


I think (3,999) $4,300 euros new with $1,200 for"

* Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Type II Aspherical Lens $599
* Voigtlander 50mm f/2.2 Color-Skopar $599(?TBD?)

Is a very fun, very small/lite, very sharp kit for $5,500 and it's NEW.


Jul 03, 2024 at 07:58 PM
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p.3 #7 · p.3 #7 · New Pixii camera launch


So interesting to see the contrasting opinions here vs. Reddit (more so a reflection of different POVs and positioning around new, and relatively innovative product). So much of their argument is that "I can buy a used M10, and Leica's heritage means quality is amazing!"

https://www.reddit.com/r/Leica/comments/1dup91j/new_fullframe_pixii_m_mount_announced/

I'm happy to see them evolve though. So kudos to Pixii for keeping it going.
Jul 03, 2024 at 08:38 PM
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p.3 #8 · p.3 #8 · New Pixii camera launch


rscheffler wrote:
Ask Leica about the M8?

Leica didn’t have anything to work off or base their digital M off of.
Pixii had the M8. And the M9. And the M240. And the M10.

It’s like a new car manufacturer entered the market, and based their first car off the Ford Model T somehow not noticing that Ford had made other cars since then.
Jul 03, 2024 at 09:48 PM
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p.3 #9 · p.3 #9 · New Pixii camera launch


ottokbre wrote:
I think (3,999) $4,300 euros new with $1,200 for"

* Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Type II Aspherical Lens $599
* Voigtlander 50mm f/2.2 Color-Skopar $599(?TBD?)

Is a very fun, very small/lite, very sharp kit for $5,500 and it's NEW.

Yes but does Pixii include a cute little hand signed quality inspection card like Leica does?
Jul 03, 2024 at 09:51 PM
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p.3 #10 · p.3 #10 · New Pixii camera launch


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Unless they somehow got their hands on the stacked sensor from the A9/A9II (1/152 sec), which would be ideal.

Would be "something" ... if their 64 bit architecture is even faster than that. The lack of a mechanical shutter may be a concern for some, so they hopefully have brought a fast readout to the table.
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p.3 #11 · p.3 #11 · New Pixii camera launch


Desmolicious wrote:
Leica didn’t have anything to work off or base their digital M off of.
Pixii had the M8. And the M9. And the M240. And the M10.

It’s like a new car manufacturer entered the market, and based their first car off the Ford Model T somehow not noticing that Ford had made other cars since then.



I would like to think that they were starting off as a niche maker, unsure if the camera would sell much during initial development, while also trying some new ideas (the handling of B&W etc). Once they realized initial success, they had the backing to move into full frame territory.


Jul 03, 2024 at 10:36 PM
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p.3 #12 · p.3 #12 · New Pixii camera launch


intangiblethin wrote:
So interesting to see the contrasting opinions here vs. Reddit (more so a reflection of different POVs and positioning around new, and relatively innovative product). So much of their argument is that "I can buy a used M10, and Leica's heritage means quality is amazing!"

https://www.reddit.com/r/Leica/comments/1dup91j/new_fullframe_pixii_m_mount_announced/

I'm happy to see them evolve though. So kudos to Pixii for keeping it going.



While they are trying something new, some of the complaints are valid. No screen is very Leica M-D like, always polarizing. And not removable storage is wild to me; I love the idea of internal storage but not without even a microSD card as backup.


Jul 03, 2024 at 10:38 PM
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p.3 #13 · p.3 #13 · New Pixii camera launch


rscheffler wrote:
Ask Leica about the M8?

Desmolicious wrote:
Leica didn’t have anything to work off or base their digital M off of.
Pixii had the M8. And the M9. And the M240. And the M10.

It’s like a new car manufacturer entered the market, and based their first car off the Ford Model T somehow not noticing that Ford had made other cars since then.




They had to start somewhere. I'd guess various costs were a factor contributing to the first model being an APS-C 'proof of concept' camera, that enough people apparently bought, to encourage development of this FF version. Or someone backing Pixii has deep pockets financing it as a passion project. Perhaps more importantly, they were unproven in the market. Recall that there was another M mount digital camera in the works some years ago that remained vaporware (remember Konost?). While virtually everyone at the release of the original Pixii basically said they would have bought it had it been FF, talk is cheap and I doubt many would have backed their words with ~$5K to an unproven company. From my own point of view, only since B&H added Pixii to their inventory have I even given it consideration because it would be an easy return within their evaluation period. Not so much if having to post it back to France.
Jul 03, 2024 at 10:44 PM
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p.3 #14 · p.3 #14 · New Pixii camera launch


Anyone know what the "Interactive Rangefinder Viewfinder" means?
Jul 03, 2024 at 11:22 PM
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p.3 #15 · p.3 #15 · New Pixii camera launch


Will they use a parabolic microlens design and extremely thin cover glass? This is really important for full frame M lens performance, without which I won't be the least bit interested. At least with the APS-C versions, this wasn't an issue.
Jul 03, 2024 at 11:45 PM
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p.3 #16 · p.3 #16 · New Pixii camera launch




torifile wrote:
Anyone know what the "Interactive Rangefinder Viewfinder" means?

My guess is this refers to having various frame lines, and exposure info displayed in the viewfinder.
Jul 04, 2024 at 12:54 AM
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p.3 #17 · p.3 #17 · New Pixii camera launch


This camera is more compact than a Leica but still feels solid. The absence of an LCD is a bonus for those who prefer shooting without one. My main issue with the previous version was the cropped sensor, but the new full-frame sensor seems promising.
Jul 04, 2024 at 03:48 AM
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p.3 #18 · p.3 #18 · New Pixii camera launch


I’m very excited for full frame, but disappointed by the lack of 28mm framelines. I’ll wait to see if there is color shift in the corners with 28mm lenses.
Jul 04, 2024 at 08:35 AM
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p.3 #19 · p.3 #19 · New Pixii camera launch


I think this is a very interesting camera. Especially having seen how the original version(s) have been recieved. Will definately consider one if reviews are positive. Need to sell off some other stuff first though.
Jul 04, 2024 at 09:11 AM
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p.3 #20 · p.3 #20 · New Pixii camera launch


intangiblethin wrote:
So much of their argument is that "I can buy a used M10, and Leica's heritage means quality is amazing!"



This is really rich considering the past years of Leica manufacturing woes.
Jul 04, 2024 at 09:12 AM
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