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Archive 2023Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
p.2 #1Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
Desmolicious wrote:
This is what I love about CV:
"Four design variations
Type I, with its aluminum exterior for light weight and mobility, is available in matte black paint and silver, while Type II, with its massive brass construction, is available in black paint and silver finish."
I have the Leica Summicron 28 Asph v2. I think it was only offered in black as the standard production model. The matte black version - much cooler looking - was a limited release and now thousands over the standard model.
Just because.
CV don't play dat.
Sometimes Leica appears to be a particularly shallow company in terms of price gouging their customers. I think it’s hard to take because at the same time they are an incredible company with great support and genuine customer consideration. There’s making a profit and there’s taking the piss!
This is what I love about CV:
"Four design variations
Type I, with its aluminum exterior for light weight and mobility, is available in matte black paint and silver, while Type II, with its massive brass construction, is available in black paint and silver finish."
I have the Leica Summicron 28 Asph v2. I think it was only offered in black as the standard production model. The matte black version - much cooler looking - was a limited release and now thousands over the standard model.
Just because.
CV don't play dat.
Sometimes Leica appears to be a particularly shallow company in terms of price gouging their customers. I think it’s hard to take because at the same time they are an incredible company with great support and genuine customer consideration. There’s making a profit and there’s taking the piss!
Dec 15, 2023 at 12:31 PM
p.2 #2Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
tri_fin wrote:
"Four design variations
Type I, with its aluminum exterior for light weight and mobility, is available in matte black paint and silver, while Type II, with its massive brass construction, is available in black paint and silver finish."
I have the Leica Summicron 28 Asph v2. I think it was only offered in black as the standard production model. The matte black version - much cooler looking - was a limited release and now thousands over the standard model.
Just because.
CV don't play dat.Sometimes Leica appears to be a particularly shallow company in terms of price gouging their customers. I think it’s hard to take because at the same time they are an incredible company with great support and genuine customer consideration. There’s making a profit and there’s taking the piss!
The thing is with this lens it was more the secondary market that did it, only because Leica made it limited. I think it was 'only' $1K more than the standard version. Same when they released the Summaron 28 5.6 in matte black.
I know it is their business model and works really well for them, but it just sucks if you want that finish and arbitrarily it is limited to the few who have the hotline to their Leica store whenever a ltd release is announced!
Desmolicious wrote
This is what I love about CV:"Four design variations
Type I, with its aluminum exterior for light weight and mobility, is available in matte black paint and silver, while Type II, with its massive brass construction, is available in black paint and silver finish."
I have the Leica Summicron 28 Asph v2. I think it was only offered in black as the standard production model. The matte black version - much cooler looking - was a limited release and now thousands over the standard model.
Just because.
CV don't play dat.
The thing is with this lens it was more the secondary market that did it, only because Leica made it limited. I think it was 'only' $1K more than the standard version. Same when they released the Summaron 28 5.6 in matte black.
I know it is their business model and works really well for them, but it just sucks if you want that finish and arbitrarily it is limited to the few who have the hotline to their Leica store whenever a ltd release is announced!
Dec 15, 2023 at 12:45 PM
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RustyRus wrote:
Buying the brass type 1- LFG
Type one is aluminium.
I love the feel of brass lenses but.. an M will handle much better with the aluminium version.
So for this lens, as much as I love BP and brassing, aluminium would be the better option.
Buying the brass type 1- LFG
Type one is aluminium.
I love the feel of brass lenses but.. an M will handle much better with the aluminium version.
So for this lens, as much as I love BP and brassing, aluminium would be the better option.
Dec 15, 2023 at 01:08 PM
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nehemiahphoto wrote:
Interestingly, the optical formula looks closer to that 28/2 ASPH (great lens!) than the 35/1.5 (I was less excited about this one).
I believe the optical design of the CV 28mm f/1.5 looks quite similar to the 35mm f/1.5. When you compare them side by side, you'll notice the designs are very alike, with the main difference being that the new 28mm f/1.5 has an additional low dispersion front element.
Interestingly, the optical formula looks closer to that 28/2 ASPH (great lens!) than the 35/1.5 (I was less excited about this one).
I believe the optical design of the CV 28mm f/1.5 looks quite similar to the 35mm f/1.5. When you compare them side by side, you'll notice the designs are very alike, with the main difference being that the new 28mm f/1.5 has an additional low dispersion front element.
Dec 15, 2023 at 02:47 PM
p.2 #5Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
Desmolicious wrote:
Type one is aluminium.
I love the feel of brass lenses but.. an M will handle much better with the aluminium version.
So for this lens, as much as I love BP and brassing, aluminium would be the better option.
I will be testing the brass version. It's still 100g lighter than the 28/1.4 lux. Also 10mm shorter.
RustyRus wrote
Buying the brass type 1- LFGI love the feel of brass lenses but.. an M will handle much better with the aluminium version.
So for this lens, as much as I love BP and brassing, aluminium would be the better option.
I will be testing the brass version. It's still 100g lighter than the 28/1.4 lux. Also 10mm shorter.
Dec 15, 2023 at 04:49 PM
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I was mulling over buying the 28 2.8 in the v1 version to match my 40 2.8, but now will hold off for a little bit to see how this lens shapes up.
Dec 15, 2023 at 04:52 PM
p.2 #7Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
Desmolicious wrote:
I was mulling over buying the 28 2.8 in the v1 version to match my 40 2.8, but now will hold off for a little bit to see how this lens shapes up.
Me too.
I was mulling over buying the 28 2.8 in the v1 version to match my 40 2.8, but now will hold off for a little bit to see how this lens shapes up.
Me too.
Dec 15, 2023 at 05:45 PM
p.2 #8Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
Check out these sample photos taken with the Voigtlander 28mm f/1.5 Nokton lens by photographer Shumpei Ohsugi.
© Shumpei Ohsugi
© Shumpei Ohsugi
© Shumpei Ohsugi
© Shumpei Ohsugi
© Shumpei Ohsugi
© Shumpei Ohsugi
Dec 15, 2023 at 09:20 PM
p.2 #9Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
Very nice pics. But the first one caught my eye w the barrel distortion.
Dec 15, 2023 at 09:33 PM
p.2 #10Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
Fred Miranda wrote:
I believe the optical design of the CV 28mm f/1.5 looks quite similar to the 35mm f/1.5. When you compare them side by side, you'll notice the designs are very alike, with the main difference being that the new 28mm f/1.5 has an additional low dispersion front element.
I am not sure how to read these--from what I see, the rear half of the cv 35/1.5 and 28/1.5 look closer to one another, the front half of the 28/1.5 and 28/2 look closer to one another. Interestingly, the new 28/1.5 use 4 special elements, whereas the 28/2 uses 3 and the 35/1.5 uses 2.
You'd know (or someone else) better how to read these than me, but after looking at it, can we tell if the 28/1.5 will draw like the 28/2 or 35/1.5 more?
nehemiahphoto wrote
Interestingly, the optical formula looks closer to that 28/2 ASPH (great lens!) than the 35/1.5 (I was less excited about this one).I am not sure how to read these--from what I see, the rear half of the cv 35/1.5 and 28/1.5 look closer to one another, the front half of the 28/1.5 and 28/2 look closer to one another. Interestingly, the new 28/1.5 use 4 special elements, whereas the 28/2 uses 3 and the 35/1.5 uses 2.
You'd know (or someone else) better how to read these than me, but after looking at it, can we tell if the 28/1.5 will draw like the 28/2 or 35/1.5 more?
Dec 15, 2023 at 11:11 PM
p.2 #11Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
nehemiahphoto wrote:
I believe the optical design of the CV 28mm f/1.5 looks quite similar to the 35mm f/1.5. When you compare them side by side, you'll notice the designs are very alike, with the main difference being that the new 28mm f/1.5 has an additional low dispersion front element.I am not sure how to read these--from what I see, the rear half of the cv 35/1.5 and 28/1.5 look closer to one another, the front half of the 28/1.5 and 28/2 look closer to one another. Interestingly, the new 28/1.5 use 4 special elements, whereas the 28/2 uses 3 and the 35/1.5 uses 2.
You'd know (or someone else) better how to read these than me, but after looking at it, can we tell if the 28/1.5 will draw like the 28/2 or 35/1.5 more?
If you compare the optical design images you posted, the 35/1.5 and 28/1.5 designs are pretty much the same with a few element curvature tweaks and an extra front element for the 28mm. It looks like the 28mm design was based on the 35mm.
Fred Miranda wrote
nehemiahphoto wrote
Interestingly, the optical formula looks closer to that 28/2 ASPH (great lens!) than the 35/1.5 (I was less excited about this one).You'd know (or someone else) better how to read these than me, but after looking at it, can we tell if the 28/1.5 will draw like the 28/2 or 35/1.5 more?
If you compare the optical design images you posted, the 35/1.5 and 28/1.5 designs are pretty much the same with a few element curvature tweaks and an extra front element for the 28mm. It looks like the 28mm design was based on the 35mm.
Dec 16, 2023 at 12:31 AM
p.2 #12Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
Desmolicious wrote:
Very nice pics. But the first one caught my eye w the barrel distortion.
And coma.
Very nice pics. But the first one caught my eye w the barrel distortion.
And coma.
Dec 16, 2023 at 12:31 AM
p.2 #13Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
Fred Miranda wrote:
Desmolicious wrote
Very nice pics. But the first one caught my eye w the barrel distortion.Do you encounter similar issues with the 28 Summilux?
Dec 16, 2023 at 01:02 AM
p.2 #14Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
Type 1 and Type 2 have different weights, but are they made of different materials? Is the weight difference simply due to the focus knob?
Dec 16, 2023 at 01:23 AM
p.2 #15Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
Fred Miranda wrote:
And coma.
Was picture #5 shot w/open?
Thanks.
And coma.
Was picture #5 shot w/open?
Thanks.
Dec 16, 2023 at 02:28 AM
p.2 #16Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
choijm0715 wrote:
Type 1 and Type 2 have different weights, but are they made of different materials? Is the weight difference simply due to the focus knob?
Type I is made of aluminium and Type II of brass.
Type 1 and Type 2 have different weights, but are they made of different materials? Is the weight difference simply due to the focus knob?
Type I is made of aluminium and Type II of brass.
Dec 16, 2023 at 02:36 AM
p.2 #17Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
j.liam wrote:
[barrel distortion] And coma.Do you encounter similar issues with the 28 Summilux?
There is coma wide open on the Summilux as well but I think it's better corrected. I will compared both side by side.
Fred Miranda wrote
Desmolicious wrote
Very nice pics. But the first one caught my eye w the barrel distortion.There is coma wide open on the Summilux as well but I think it's better corrected. I will compared both side by side.
Dec 16, 2023 at 09:33 AM
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Ripolini wrote:
Was picture #5 shot w/open?
Thanks.
It appears fully open. Here's a close-up displaying coma at the edges of the image 5:
For me, it's not a problem. It's just a characteristic of the lens when shooting with a wide aperture.
Fred Miranda wrote
And coma.Thanks.
It appears fully open. Here's a close-up displaying coma at the edges of the image 5:
For me, it's not a problem. It's just a characteristic of the lens when shooting with a wide aperture.
Dec 16, 2023 at 09:34 AM
p.2 #19Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
and will compare it to the Leica 28/1.4 Lux, Leica 28/2 Cron and Voigtlander 28/2.8 Color-Skopar in terms of performance and rendering.
Why not the Voigtlander 28/2, the best of them all?
Why not the Voigtlander 28/2, the best of them all?
Dec 16, 2023 at 10:42 AM
p.2 #20Cosina Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 28/1.5 VM lenses announced today
These look great, but they have introduced 3 28mm lenses recently, why not a nice 24/2 or 25/2?
Dec 16, 2023 at 10:44 AM