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Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

Sony just announced the highly anticipated A7C II (33MP), A7CR (60MP) cameras and the FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II lens.
The new a7C II has a design similar to its previous version. It uses the excellent 33MP BSI sensor found in the bigger Sony a7 IV. It also comes with impressive abilities for taking photos and shooting videos. On the other hand, the Sony a7CR is a new and compact full-frame mirrorless camera with very high resolution. It takes many of the great features of the a7R V and puts them into a smaller body, all at a noticeably lower price.

View the Explora article and video from B&H Photo.

Official Specifications:

Sony A7C II: ($2,498)

Pre-order at B&H Photo

33MP Full-Frame Exmor R BSI Sensor
Bionz XR processor and dedicated 'AI Processing Engine'
AF tracking with subject recognition
Shooting Up to 10 fps, ISO 50-204800
10-Bit Full-Frame 4K30p Video (from 7K)
S-Log3, S-Gamut3, S-Cinetone, User LUTs
7 Stops of In-Body Image Stabilization
759-Point Phase Detection, 94% Coverage
2.36m-Dot OLED Electronic Viewfinder with 0.7x magnification
3" 1.03m-Dot Vari-Angle LCD Touchscreen
No mechanical first curtain shutter
1/4000s Mechanical shutter, 1/8000 Electronic shutter
Single UHS-II SD card slot
Weight: 515g

A7CR: ($2,998)

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61MP Full-Frame Exmor R BSI Sensor
Bionz XR processor and dedicated 'AI' processing unit
Lossless Raw options in multiple sizes
Shooting Up to 8 fps, ISO 50-102400
240.8MP Pixel Shift Multi Shooting
'Auto framing' video cropping modes
10-Bit Full-Frame 4K60p Video
S-Log3, S-Gamut3, S-Cinetone, User LUTs
7 Stops of In-Body Image Stabilization
1/8000s Mechanical shutter, 1/8000 Electronic shutter
693-Point Phase Detection, 79% Coverage
2.36m-Dot OLED Electronic Viewfinder with 0.7x magnification
3" 1.03m-Dot Vari-Angle LCD Touchscreen
Single UHS-II SD card slot
Weight: 513g

Sony FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II Lens ($2,298)
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Full-Frame | f/2.8 to f/22
Fast Wide-Angle Zoom
20% Lighter, 10% Smaller than Previous
Four XD Linear AF Motors, Floating Focus
Aperture De-Click and Lock Switches
Zoom Smoothness Switch
XA and Super ED Elements
Fluorine Coating
Dust and Moisture-Resistant Construction
Filter Size: 82 mm
Dimensions (ø x L): 3.5 x 4.4" / 87.8 x 111.5 mm
Weight: 1.2 lb / 547 g

Aug 29, 2023 at 09:27 AM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

Copying this message from the rumour thread:

The A7CR definitely brings something new to the table... but isn't the gap between A7C and A7Cii minimal if you only care about stills?

- Slightly? better sensor (24Mp vs 33Mp)
- Significantly? better AF
- Slightly? better EVF
- Extra dial, extra custom button and new menus

In Europe, I just bought a new A7C for 1500 euro from Amazon, the A7CII is 2400. Is the above worth it the 900 extra euros?

Aug 29, 2023 at 09:33 AM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

$3000 for the R is a great price!

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Aug 29, 2023 at 09:38 AM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

I’ve got an A7C on sale in the FM buy and sell forum if you want to save over $1000 compared to the A7C II.

Aug 29, 2023 at 09:39 AM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

Waiting for a7cR2 ...

Aug 29, 2023 at 09:39 AM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

genjy wrote:
Damn why would anyone not buy the R for only $500 more?

The R version is $3000 vs $2200 for the II.

Aug 29, 2023 at 09:40 AM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

swldstn wrote:
The R version is $3000 vs $2200 for the II.

Oh I see. The $2500 one is with kit lens.

Aug 29, 2023 at 09:41 AM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

swldstn wrote:
The R version is $3000 vs $2200 for the II.

Makes that 61 mpx far more attractive. That would be my choice by far. I’m fine though

Aug 29, 2023 at 09:45 AM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

I believe the magnification on the EVF is up to .70!

Aug 29, 2023 at 09:45 AM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

a7cII still with 4K with 30fps... only 4K60 with a APS-C crop, WHY?!

and that grip is still smaller than 6700!

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Aug 29, 2023 at 09:45 AM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

I'm glad Sony was able to increase the EVF magnification from 0.59x to 0.7x!

Aug 29, 2023 at 09:47 AM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

Yikes. The price on the A7CII is HORRIBLE. Should have been $1799 max given the competition and the specs. How do they think they can price themselves SOOOOO high compared to Canon etc.?

Aug 29, 2023 at 09:48 AM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

I'm surprised the a7CR isn't getting a better viewfinder. A high res EVF similar to what the other "R" bodies have would make more sense. I guess that will be the upgrade in the a7CR II.

Aug 29, 2023 at 09:50 AM

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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

JustAnother wrote:
Copying this message from the rumour thread:

The A7CR definitely brings something new to the table... but isn't the gap between A7C and A7Cii minimal if you only care about stills?

- Slightly? better sensor (24Mp vs 33Mp)
- Significantly? better AF
- Slightly? better EVF
- Extra dial, extra custom button and new menus

In Europe, I just bought a new A7C for 1500 euro from Amazon, the A7CII is 2400. Is the above worth it the 900 extra euros?

don't forget menus and connectivity, very specific differences but could be a big deal for some it is for me, and most are praising the better optics on the EVF this time, doesn't make it great just much better

Aug 29, 2023 at 09:51 AM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

Sony A7C R: 3699 EUR
Sony A7R V: 4199 EUR

Aug 29, 2023 at 09:58 AM

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

jeffbuzz wrote:
I'm surprised the a7CR isn't getting a better viewfinder. A high res EVF similar to what the other "R" bodies have would make more sense. I guess that will be the upgrade in the a7CR II.

It's my biggest disappointment about the 7cR, ie. the lack of high/higher res EVF, I mean, even the Nikon Z7 from 4 years ago beats it.

Also, the 3" 1M dot LCD is so outdated too, but I guess there's no room to squeeze in the 3.2" screen without making the camera bigger?

I do understand Sony has to keep manufacturing costs down by producing the same body parts for c2 and cR, but hopefully in 3-4 years we will see the 3.2" 2.1M articulating+tilting screen added.

Aug 29, 2023 at 10:02 AM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

For me “2.36m-Dot OLED Electronic Viewfinder with 0.7x magnification” even on the a7cr sounds like a no go for photographers. Or does the EVF have optical qualities beyond the data sheet? To me VF adds tremendously to the fun of shooting.

Aug 29, 2023 at 10:07 AM

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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

Too bad A7CR does not have two card slots.

Aug 29, 2023 at 10:19 AM

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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

phinix wrote:
a7cII still with 4K with 30fps... only 4K60 with a APS-C crop, WHY?!

and that grip is still smaller than 6700!

Same reason 4k60p is crop on the a7IV, the sensor readout speed is too slow for 4k60fps in FF.

The slow readout is what I dislike most about the a7IV, rolling shutter is bad, it’s too slow for FF 4k60 and it makes the electronic shutter mostly unusable.

Chris

Aug 29, 2023 at 10:20 AM

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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

They've addressed my only gripes with the original A7c.

1. Added a front dial
2. Added the stacked mode dial to make switching between photo and video quicker
3. And even increased the magnification on the EVF from 0.59x to 0.70x. Did not expect that.

Awesome.

I hope the EVF will allow the attachment of an eye cup. Love the grip attachment that comes included with the A7cR.

Aug 29, 2023 at 10:23 AM

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