Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
p.19 #1Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Here are some samples using my Sony A7R II UT with the Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar:
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Jul 25, 2024 at 05:08 PM
p.19 #2Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
An in thin filter converted camera? My impression is not good about that lens...
Malabito wrote:
The 35mm skopar f2.5 works perfectly on an m digital, no color cast and is actually quite sharp on the corners. On mirrorles like the Sony/Panasonic suffers from terrible corner smearing but on a m is beautiful lens, and priced very low 
Malabito wrote:
photonc wrote
Yeah, I think that design is a little long in the tooth and designed for film. For non-m bodies I believe there is significant color shift due to the sensor glass. I guess my wish list would be a 35mm 2.8 Skopar III with the same design as the 28.Jul 27, 2024 at 06:49 AM
p.19 #5Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Undoubtedly, this is an awesome compact lens!
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Jul 31, 2024 at 09:29 PM
p.19 #7Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Gorgeous shots!! I'm considering getting one for my M6 body and will most likely use it for street photography.
Can I ask for your opinion about this lens's performance on negative film? I saw someone mentioned it has heavy vignetting on film. Is that true? Thank you!
Desmolicious wrote:
MP, CV 28 2.8 v1, C200
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53898194258_18c23011e3_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53897944916_5cb886ef91_b.jpg
Can I ask for your opinion about this lens's performance on negative film? I saw someone mentioned it has heavy vignetting on film. Is that true? Thank you!
Desmolicious wrote:
MP, CV 28 2.8 v1, C200
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53898194258_18c23011e3_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53897944916_5cb886ef91_b.jpg
Aug 04, 2024 at 02:12 PM
p.19 #8Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
G_NYC wrote:
Gorgeous shots!! I'm considering getting one for my M6 body and will most likely use it for street photography.
Can I ask for your opinion about this lens's performance on negative film? I saw someone mentioned it has heavy vignetting on film. Is that true? Thank you!
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53898194258_18c23011e3_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53897944916_5cb886ef91_b.jpg
You barely see any vignetting when shooting film with this lens.
Gorgeous shots!! I'm considering getting one for my M6 body and will most likely use it for street photography.
Can I ask for your opinion about this lens's performance on negative film? I saw someone mentioned it has heavy vignetting on film. Is that true? Thank you!
Desmolicious wrote
MP, CV 28 2.8 v1, C200https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53898194258_18c23011e3_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53897944916_5cb886ef91_b.jpg
You barely see any vignetting when shooting film with this lens.
Aug 11, 2024 at 10:05 AM
p.19 #9Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Fred Miranda wrote:
Can I ask for your opinion about this lens's performance on negative film? I saw someone mentioned it has heavy vignetting on film. Is that true? Thank you!
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53898194258_18c23011e3_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53897944916_5cb886ef91_b.jpgYou barely see any vignetting when shooting film with this lens.
Yup, did not notice any. Same for the new 50 2.2.
G_NYC wrote
Gorgeous shots!! I'm considering getting one for my M6 body and will most likely use it for street photography.Can I ask for your opinion about this lens's performance on negative film? I saw someone mentioned it has heavy vignetting on film. Is that true? Thank you!
Desmolicious wrote
MP, CV 28 2.8 v1, C200https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53898194258_18c23011e3_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53897944916_5cb886ef91_b.jpg
Yup, did not notice any. Same for the new 50 2.2.
Aug 11, 2024 at 11:30 AM
p.19 #10Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
hanay78 wrote:
An in thin filter converted camera? My impression is not good about that lens...
The 35mm skopar f2.5 works perfectly on an m digital, no color cast and is actually quite sharp on the corners. On mirrorles like the Sony/Panasonic suffers from terrible corner smearing but on a m is beautiful lens, and priced very low
Yes, the 35mm f/2.5 works very well on an M11, and also performs great on my full spectrum Sony bodies with the thin filter mods. It's also a good lens for Infrared and is very tiny. I also have the 28 2.8 and the 35 really isn't far behind in performance.
An in thin filter converted camera? My impression is not good about that lens...
Malabito wrote
photonc wrote
Yeah, I think that design is a little long in the tooth and designed for film. For non-m bodies I believe there is significant color shift due to the sensor glass. I guess my wish list would be a 35mm 2.8 Skopar III with the same design as the 28.Yes, the 35mm f/2.5 works very well on an M11, and also performs great on my full spectrum Sony bodies with the thin filter mods. It's also a good lens for Infrared and is very tiny. I also have the 28 2.8 and the 35 really isn't far behind in performance.
Aug 11, 2024 at 09:02 PM
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p.19 #11Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Desmolicious wrote:
Can I ask for your opinion about this lens's performance on negative film? I saw someone mentioned it has heavy vignetting on film. Is that true? Thank you!
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53898194258_18c23011e3_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53897944916_5cb886ef91_b.jpgYou barely see any vignetting when shooting film with this lens.Yup, did not notice any. Same for the new 50 2.2.
Even wide open?
Fred Miranda wrote
G_NYC wrote
Gorgeous shots!! I'm considering getting one for my M6 body and will most likely use it for street photography.Can I ask for your opinion about this lens's performance on negative film? I saw someone mentioned it has heavy vignetting on film. Is that true? Thank you!
Desmolicious wrote
MP, CV 28 2.8 v1, C200https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53898194258_18c23011e3_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53897944916_5cb886ef91_b.jpg
Even wide open?
Aug 16, 2024 at 01:16 PM
p.19 #13Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Desmolicious wrote:
Those low light shots I posted were wide open.
50 2.2 @ 2.2 on film:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53890984652_5310c35da8_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53906457388_b8c3507c4d_c.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53901995473_2be71352e9_b.jpg
That one showing the sky is very telling. Film is so forgiving! Thanks for the samples.
Those low light shots I posted were wide open.
50 2.2 @ 2.2 on film:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53890984652_5310c35da8_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53906457388_b8c3507c4d_c.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53901995473_2be71352e9_b.jpg
That one showing the sky is very telling. Film is so forgiving! Thanks for the samples.
Sep 05, 2024 at 10:28 AM
p.19 #14Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Does it make sense to use this lens through an adapter for panasonic S9? Will the angular sharpness be the same as on native M mount carcasses?
Oct 18, 2024 at 02:58 AM
p.19 #15Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
No, it will not have Leica M sharpness in the corners per nehemiahphoto's post:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1862035/0
Sigma FP is closer to Leica SL2 performance in my use, but still not good as Leica M or Kolari mod sensor camera. I used Avenon 28mm f3.5 ltm on FP and was good at f8:
https://pbase.com/sc_20170/image/170357119
sergun wrote:
Does it make sense to use this lens through an adapter for panasonic S9? Will the angular sharpness be the same as on native M mount carcasses?
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1862035/0
Sigma FP is closer to Leica SL2 performance in my use, but still not good as Leica M or Kolari mod sensor camera. I used Avenon 28mm f3.5 ltm on FP and was good at f8:
https://pbase.com/sc_20170/image/170357119
sergun wrote:
Does it make sense to use this lens through an adapter for panasonic S9? Will the angular sharpness be the same as on native M mount carcasses?
Oct 18, 2024 at 05:00 AM
p.19 #16Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
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Oct 23, 2024 at 12:55 PM
p.19 #17Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
catacore wrote:
Guys, I was just wondering (after reading all this thread, of course) what's your opinion on adapting this lens on Sony cameras when comparing its performance against the Brightin Star 2.8/28 on a Leica M camera? I am asking because many M-mount users seem happy with the BS lens performance for their used shooting scenarios (not landscapes or flat subjects) and I was wondering if the Color-Skopar 2.8/28 on a Sony camera would look same or worse than the BS on a Leica M or Sony UT-modified camera.
I do have the Thypoch Simera 1.4/28 lens but it is for sale...Show more →
If you want a lens that performs well on Sony, then I would look at the F-mount version of this lens and use if with an F-mount to Sony E-mount adapter. It should not have sensor glass thickness issues and Sony and Nikon F-mount cameras have similar cover glass and it is an f/2.8 max aperture lens.
Guys, I was just wondering (after reading all this thread, of course) what's your opinion on adapting this lens on Sony cameras when comparing its performance against the Brightin Star 2.8/28 on a Leica M camera? I am asking because many M-mount users seem happy with the BS lens performance for their used shooting scenarios (not landscapes or flat subjects) and I was wondering if the Color-Skopar 2.8/28 on a Sony camera would look same or worse than the BS on a Leica M or Sony UT-modified camera.
I do have the Thypoch Simera 1.4/28 lens but it is for sale...Show more →
If you want a lens that performs well on Sony, then I would look at the F-mount version of this lens and use if with an F-mount to Sony E-mount adapter. It should not have sensor glass thickness issues and Sony and Nikon F-mount cameras have similar cover glass and it is an f/2.8 max aperture lens.
Oct 23, 2024 at 02:00 PM
p.19 #18Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
catacore wrote:
Guys, I was just wondering (after reading all this thread, of course) what's your opinion on adapting this lens on Sony cameras when comparing its performance against the Brightin Star 2.8/28 on a Leica M camera? I am asking because many M-mount users seem happy with the BS lens performance for their used shooting scenarios (not landscapes or flat subjects) and I was wondering if the Color-Skopar 2.8/28 on a Sony camera would look same or worse than the BS on a Leica M or Sony UT-modified camera.
I do have the Thypoch Simera 1.4/28 lens but it is for sale...Show more →
I'm quite happy with my Color-Skopar 28/2.8 VM Type II on my unmodified Sony cameras. I've used it on my A7C and A7CII. It does need f8 for best corner-to-corner sharpness at infinity shots though. I think the BS 28/2.8 is never sharp to the corners on Sony or even native M cameras based on what I've read about it (it should perform fairly similarly to MS-Optics 28/2-II which I have). There's also the Samyang Remaster Slim to be released soon for native E-mount which comes with a 28mm f3.5 lens module (I should receive my set tomorrow). It's also a very slim and low-weight option.
Some samples with CV 28/2.8 on my unmodified Sony cameras, pretty much all at f8 or wide open f2.8:
A7CII:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z4twZftmdjdF3BDH7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Rw32BF72AvHRUy6EA
A7C:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/jVUmNY419sH76Bxk9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Kegr2YUdJPpqTjAo7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/773Hog1yRqqo2exz7
I think the main issue with CV 28/2.8 is that it has quite strong vignetting especially at widest apertures but also when stopped down to some extent. It could be reduced in PP though.
F-mount version would be quite a bit bigger, longer and heavier with an F to E-mount adapter and it's not the same optical design as the VM version. In my opinion the VM version performs quite well enough on Sony as-is and I wouldn't go for adapted SLR versions if size and weight are important.
Guys, I was just wondering (after reading all this thread, of course) what's your opinion on adapting this lens on Sony cameras when comparing its performance against the Brightin Star 2.8/28 on a Leica M camera? I am asking because many M-mount users seem happy with the BS lens performance for their used shooting scenarios (not landscapes or flat subjects) and I was wondering if the Color-Skopar 2.8/28 on a Sony camera would look same or worse than the BS on a Leica M or Sony UT-modified camera.
I do have the Thypoch Simera 1.4/28 lens but it is for sale...Show more →
I'm quite happy with my Color-Skopar 28/2.8 VM Type II on my unmodified Sony cameras. I've used it on my A7C and A7CII. It does need f8 for best corner-to-corner sharpness at infinity shots though. I think the BS 28/2.8 is never sharp to the corners on Sony or even native M cameras based on what I've read about it (it should perform fairly similarly to MS-Optics 28/2-II which I have). There's also the Samyang Remaster Slim to be released soon for native E-mount which comes with a 28mm f3.5 lens module (I should receive my set tomorrow). It's also a very slim and low-weight option.
Some samples with CV 28/2.8 on my unmodified Sony cameras, pretty much all at f8 or wide open f2.8:
A7CII:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z4twZftmdjdF3BDH7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Rw32BF72AvHRUy6EA
A7C:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/jVUmNY419sH76Bxk9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Kegr2YUdJPpqTjAo7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/773Hog1yRqqo2exz7
I think the main issue with CV 28/2.8 is that it has quite strong vignetting especially at widest apertures but also when stopped down to some extent. It could be reduced in PP though.
F-mount version would be quite a bit bigger, longer and heavier with an F to E-mount adapter and it's not the same optical design as the VM version. In my opinion the VM version performs quite well enough on Sony as-is and I wouldn't go for adapted SLR versions if size and weight are important.
Oct 23, 2024 at 09:20 PM
p.19 #19Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
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p.19 #20Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
catacore wrote:
I do have the Thypoch Simera 1.4/28 lens but it is for sale because I consider it too big for a "just in case" carry situation (besides, I don't shoot much 28mm FL, if at all), but I am still eyeing this Color-Skopar (probably GAS induced) since is so small and lightweight. Even the Ultron is too big in my book, so I am not considering it at all, but this C-S is the same size as my 2.8/40 Heliar or 2.2/50 C-S, so happy to carry it with me everyday "just in case"....
Or, alternatively, do you think there is any 28mm small E-mount lens going to be launched any time soon? (No, I don't want that Viltrox 4.5/28 AF lens).If you want a lens that performs well on Sony, then I would look at the F-mount version of this lens and use if with an F-mount to Sony E-mount adapter. It should not have sensor glass thickness issues and Sony and Nikon F-mount cameras have similar cover glass and it is an f/2.8 max aperture lens.Yes, I have seen this recommandation from Bastian a couple of pages back, but that lens + adapter combo is far too big for what I want to carry.
Ok, but for those who want this option, the lens and adapter will still weigh less than 300g. Everyone has their own tastes for what it too heavy and what is ok for weight. There are not a lot of 28mm lenses available for Sony E-mount and I think this one is a solid option with a really usefully short MFD (.15m). If that lens is too big, however, then I think you aren't left with a lot of options. There are several Leica M mount lenses that could be adapted and will get you to that lower weight, but I think all of these will have a pretty short exit pupil and will be fairly negatively affected by the thicker cover glass on a stock Sony camera. You could also get the Viltrox 28 f/4.5, which is super tiny and basically a body cap. Obviously that is a very slow lens and from the samples I have seen not that strong of a performer. Then there is the Sony 28 f/2 that only weighs 200g. I think those are your options for a small (i.e., less than 300g) 28mm lens.
Personally, when I want to shoot 28mm, I just use my Voigtlander 21 f/1.4 and crop by about 1.3X to get a 28mm perspective and with my Sony A7r5 that still leaves me with lots of pixels (about 35 MP or 36 MP) with which to work. But that 21mm f/1.4 is likely much too big for your tastes.
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Steve Spencer wrote
catacore wrote
Guys, I was just wondering (after reading all this thread, of course) what's your opinion on adapting this lens on Sony cameras when comparing its performance against the Brightin Star 2.8/28 on a Leica M camera? I am asking because many M-mount users seem happy with the BS lens performance for their used shooting scenarios (not landscapes or flat subjects) and I was wondering if the Color-Skopar 2.8/28 on a Sony camera would look same or worse than the BS on a Leica M or Sony UT-modified camera.I do have the Thypoch Simera 1.4/28 lens but it is for sale because I consider it too big for a "just in case" carry situation (besides, I don't shoot much 28mm FL, if at all), but I am still eyeing this Color-Skopar (probably GAS induced) since is so small and lightweight. Even the Ultron is too big in my book, so I am not considering it at all, but this C-S is the same size as my 2.8/40 Heliar or 2.2/50 C-S, so happy to carry it with me everyday "just in case"....
Or, alternatively, do you think there is any 28mm small E-mount lens going to be launched any time soon? (No, I don't want that Viltrox 4.5/28 AF lens).
Ok, but for those who want this option, the lens and adapter will still weigh less than 300g. Everyone has their own tastes for what it too heavy and what is ok for weight. There are not a lot of 28mm lenses available for Sony E-mount and I think this one is a solid option with a really usefully short MFD (.15m). If that lens is too big, however, then I think you aren't left with a lot of options. There are several Leica M mount lenses that could be adapted and will get you to that lower weight, but I think all of these will have a pretty short exit pupil and will be fairly negatively affected by the thicker cover glass on a stock Sony camera. You could also get the Viltrox 28 f/4.5, which is super tiny and basically a body cap. Obviously that is a very slow lens and from the samples I have seen not that strong of a performer. Then there is the Sony 28 f/2 that only weighs 200g. I think those are your options for a small (i.e., less than 300g) 28mm lens.
Personally, when I want to shoot 28mm, I just use my Voigtlander 21 f/1.4 and crop by about 1.3X to get a 28mm perspective and with my Sony A7r5 that still leaves me with lots of pixels (about 35 MP or 36 MP) with which to work. But that 21mm f/1.4 is likely much too big for your tastes.
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