Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
p.3 #1Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
I'm with Huss. let's see a few side ny sides with the 28 2.8 Elmarit M ASPH V2. Looking at the images so far, it's goinig to be difficult to tell between the two.
Aug 05, 2023 at 09:39 PM
p.3 #2Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
If only Fred could get hold of the OG CV 28 3.5 Color Skopar and test that against the new 2.8 version.
Aug 05, 2023 at 11:33 PM
p.3 #3Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Fred Miranda wrote:
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The lens seems to have a very pleasant draw!
Had I to start over, I'd probably still choose the Ultron, but the Skopar comes very close especially considering the value proposition.
Pity about the vignetting. Seems excessive vignetting is just an inescapable Voigtlander thing. The Ultron for me seems pretty useless bellow f/2.8
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The lens seems to have a very pleasant draw!
Had I to start over, I'd probably still choose the Ultron, but the Skopar comes very close especially considering the value proposition.
Pity about the vignetting. Seems excessive vignetting is just an inescapable Voigtlander thing. The Ultron for me seems pretty useless bellow f/2.8
Aug 05, 2023 at 11:39 PM
p.3 #4Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
I see a very strong purple cast on the blue skies....am I the only one seeing this?
Aug 06, 2023 at 02:49 AM
p.3 #5Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
I had the same idea 
tsdevine wrote:
You able to try it on a Sony Fred?
tsdevine wrote:
You able to try it on a Sony Fred?
Aug 06, 2023 at 03:46 AM
p.3 #6Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Thanks for the suggestions. I have requested a Leica 28/2.8 Elmarit (v2) loan from B&H Photo. 
Aug 06, 2023 at 01:46 PM
p.3 #7Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Fred Miranda wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions. I have requested a Leica 28/2.8 Elmarit (v2) loan from B&H Photo.
Looking forward to the results! Thanks!
Aug 06, 2023 at 01:50 PM
p.3 #8Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
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Aug 06, 2023 at 01:57 PM
p.3 #9Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Desmolicious wrote:
If only Fred could get hold of the OG CV 28 3.5 Color Skopar and test that against the new 2.8 version.
Fred, let me know if you’d like me to send you the 3.5 for a comparison.
Aug 06, 2023 at 03:26 PM
p.3 #10Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Is this Cv the LTM one ?
acjeske wrote:
Fred, let me know if you’d like me to send you the 3.5 for a comparison.
acjeske wrote:
Desmolicious wrote
If only Fred could get hold of the OG CV 28 3.5 Color Skopar and test that against the new 2.8 version.Aug 06, 2023 at 03:52 PM
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p.3 #11Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Fred: how many copies of the Ultron II did you go through before this copy? The infinity performance you're showing from it is not what I'm seeing with the one I got... nowhere near as flat a field as yours at wider apertures. Or are you refocusing for mid-zone and corners? And on the M240 I'm getting pretty significant green/cyan edge color shift. Actually pretty disappointed with it. But your copy IMO looks better than the new 28/2.8, at least for technical infinity performance.
Are you finding that the 28/2.8 is stronger/sharper/more consistent across the frame at nearer distances?
thrice wrote:
Thanks Fred, that cinches it for me. I hate that little intense vignette in the corner, reminds me of the old OM 18mm. Even though it's correctable I hate it.
highdesertmesa wrote:
Are you talking about "dog ear" vignette that is just at the farthest corner? I can't tell if it just looks that way because the exposure is so high or what. The Canon 28-70 f/2 has that type of vignette at 28mm, and it's actually nearly impossible to remove without a custom radial mask (it has a normal vignette gradient that is addressed in post with the light falloff tool, but the dog ear part doesn't conform to the falloff, it's its own thing).
The 28 Lux does it too. It might be the hood. I haven't really noticed it with the Canon 28-70, but I haven't used it much stopped down for landscapes/cityscapes with a lot of sky.
Desmolicious wrote:
If only Fred could get hold of the OG CV 28 3.5 Color Skopar and test that against the new 2.8 version.
Hmm, I wonder who in the LA area might have one of those??
Malabito wrote:
I see a very strong purple cast on the blue skies....am I the only one seeing this?
I noticed this too and thought it might be a WB tint issue, but if not, it would be a pretty easy hue tweak in LR, etc. Sometimes a lens from a given manufacturer will have a different color/tint quality than most of that manufacturer's other lenses. This is exactly what I experienced with the 28 Cron ASPH v1. It had a slight magenta shift/tint compared to my other Leica lenses. The 90 Summarit was also like this. 90AA has a slight cyan shift...
Are you finding that the 28/2.8 is stronger/sharper/more consistent across the frame at nearer distances?
thrice wrote:
Thanks Fred, that cinches it for me. I hate that little intense vignette in the corner, reminds me of the old OM 18mm. Even though it's correctable I hate it.
highdesertmesa wrote:
Are you talking about "dog ear" vignette that is just at the farthest corner? I can't tell if it just looks that way because the exposure is so high or what. The Canon 28-70 f/2 has that type of vignette at 28mm, and it's actually nearly impossible to remove without a custom radial mask (it has a normal vignette gradient that is addressed in post with the light falloff tool, but the dog ear part doesn't conform to the falloff, it's its own thing).
The 28 Lux does it too. It might be the hood. I haven't really noticed it with the Canon 28-70, but I haven't used it much stopped down for landscapes/cityscapes with a lot of sky.
Desmolicious wrote:
If only Fred could get hold of the OG CV 28 3.5 Color Skopar and test that against the new 2.8 version.
Hmm, I wonder who in the LA area might have one of those??
Malabito wrote:
I see a very strong purple cast on the blue skies....am I the only one seeing this?
I noticed this too and thought it might be a WB tint issue, but if not, it would be a pretty easy hue tweak in LR, etc. Sometimes a lens from a given manufacturer will have a different color/tint quality than most of that manufacturer's other lenses. This is exactly what I experienced with the 28 Cron ASPH v1. It had a slight magenta shift/tint compared to my other Leica lenses. The 90 Summarit was also like this. 90AA has a slight cyan shift...
Aug 06, 2023 at 10:19 PM
p.3 #12Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
rscheffler wrote:
Fred: how many copies of the Ultron II did you go through before this copy? The infinity performance you're showing from it is not what I'm seeing with the one I got... nowhere near as flat a field as yours at wider apertures. Or are you refocusing for mid-zone and corners? And on the M240 I'm getting pretty significant green/cyan edge color shift. Actually pretty disappointed with it. But your copy IMO looks better than the new 28/2.8, at least for technical infinity performance.
Just to chime in, my Ultron 28mm ASPH is pretty remarkable across the frame on the M11 from wide open. Pretty much the same as Fred's copy he used for his review ( I believe which has since been stolen?)
There might be sample variation or camera induced problems with yours. My Ultron 35mm ASPH for example was a dud on my M11. Harsh jittery details probably from astigmatism in the mid-zone that didn't clear up until f/5.6. Fred's Ultron 35/2 images he used for the 35/1.5 ASPH review/comparison looked fantastic compared to mine.
Fred: how many copies of the Ultron II did you go through before this copy? The infinity performance you're showing from it is not what I'm seeing with the one I got... nowhere near as flat a field as yours at wider apertures. Or are you refocusing for mid-zone and corners? And on the M240 I'm getting pretty significant green/cyan edge color shift. Actually pretty disappointed with it. But your copy IMO looks better than the new 28/2.8, at least for technical infinity performance.
Just to chime in, my Ultron 28mm ASPH is pretty remarkable across the frame on the M11 from wide open. Pretty much the same as Fred's copy he used for his review ( I believe which has since been stolen?)
There might be sample variation or camera induced problems with yours. My Ultron 35mm ASPH for example was a dud on my M11. Harsh jittery details probably from astigmatism in the mid-zone that didn't clear up until f/5.6. Fred's Ultron 35/2 images he used for the 35/1.5 ASPH review/comparison looked fantastic compared to mine.
Aug 06, 2023 at 11:08 PM
p.3 #13Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
hmzimelka wrote:
Just to chime in, my Ultron 28mm ASPH is pretty remarkable across the frame on the M11 from wide open.
Was the same case for mine.
Just to chime in, my Ultron 28mm ASPH is pretty remarkable across the frame on the M11 from wide open.
Was the same case for mine.
Aug 07, 2023 at 03:03 AM
p.3 #14Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
I got shipping confirmation mail for my 28/2.8 Black Type II from Map Camera now. It should arrive tomorrow morning as expected (tomorrow is the official release date in Japan).
I'll be using it mainly on my A7C so I'll report back about how it performs on Sony, but weather forecast for Tokyo for the rest of this week looks poor (cloudy and rainy) and I'll be traveling from Friday. I'm planning to take it with me to Finland for the summer holiday.
I'll be using it mainly on my A7C so I'll report back about how it performs on Sony, but weather forecast for Tokyo for the rest of this week looks poor (cloudy and rainy) and I'll be traveling from Friday. I'm planning to take it with me to Finland for the summer holiday.
Aug 07, 2023 at 03:17 AM
p.3 #15Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Juha Kannisto wrote:
I got shipping confirmation mail for my 28/2.8 Black Type II from Map Camera now. It should arrive tomorrow morning as expected (tomorrow is the official release date in Japan).
I'll be using it mainly on my A7C so I'll report back about how it performs on Sony, but weather forecast for Tokyo for the rest of this week looks poor (cloudy and rainy) and I'll be traveling from Friday. I'm planning to take it with me to Finland for the summer holiday.
Just received a shipping notice from Robert White, the uk importer
I got shipping confirmation mail for my 28/2.8 Black Type II from Map Camera now. It should arrive tomorrow morning as expected (tomorrow is the official release date in Japan).
I'll be using it mainly on my A7C so I'll report back about how it performs on Sony, but weather forecast for Tokyo for the rest of this week looks poor (cloudy and rainy) and I'll be traveling from Friday. I'm planning to take it with me to Finland for the summer holiday.
Just received a shipping notice from Robert White, the uk importer
Aug 07, 2023 at 03:55 AM
p.3 #16Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
tri_fin wrote:
I'll be using it mainly on my A7C so I'll report back about how it performs on Sony, but weather forecast for Tokyo for the rest of this week looks poor (cloudy and rainy) and I'll be traveling from Friday. I'm planning to take it with me to Finland for the summer holiday.Just received a shipping notice from Robert White, the uk importer
Nice! It seems they are well synchronized with the Japan release date
Juha Kannisto wrote
I got shipping confirmation mail for my 28/2.8 Black Type II from Map Camera now. It should arrive tomorrow morning as expected (tomorrow is the official release date in Japan).I'll be using it mainly on my A7C so I'll report back about how it performs on Sony, but weather forecast for Tokyo for the rest of this week looks poor (cloudy and rainy) and I'll be traveling from Friday. I'm planning to take it with me to Finland for the summer holiday.
Nice! It seems they are well synchronized with the Japan release date
Aug 07, 2023 at 03:58 AM
p.3 #17Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Juha Kannisto wrote:
I'll be using it mainly on my A7C so I'll report back about how it performs on Sony, but weather forecast for Tokyo for the rest of this week looks poor (cloudy and rainy) and I'll be traveling from Friday. I'm planning to take it with me to Finland for the summer holiday.Just received a shipping notice from Robert White, the uk importer Nice! It seems they are well synchronized with the Japan release date
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tri_fin wrote
Juha Kannisto wrote
I got shipping confirmation mail for my 28/2.8 Black Type II from Map Camera now. It should arrive tomorrow morning as expected (tomorrow is the official release date in Japan).I'll be using it mainly on my A7C so I'll report back about how it performs on Sony, but weather forecast for Tokyo for the rest of this week looks poor (cloudy and rainy) and I'll be traveling from Friday. I'm planning to take it with me to Finland for the summer holiday.
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Aug 07, 2023 at 05:04 AM
p.3 #18Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
@fredmiranda Thanks for reviewing the lens. Any plans to test it on a Sony body?
Aug 07, 2023 at 05:11 AM
p.3 #19Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Update:
The Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar M and LTM are now in stock at CameraQuest. The Black Type II has low stock until next shipment arrives:
Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar M and LTM at CameraQuest
The Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar M and LTM are now in stock at CameraQuest. The Black Type II has low stock until next shipment arrives:
Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar M and LTM at CameraQuest
Aug 07, 2023 at 12:46 PM
p.3 #20Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Thanks Fred.
Just grabbed a black type ii
Joe D
Just grabbed a black type ii
Joe D
Aug 07, 2023 at 05:31 PM