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p.23 #1 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


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The Aporia is my all-time favorite 24mm, but your low-light Lumitar shots look nice too. They have less blur, yet the flare is really appealing to my taste.


Yeah, I liked the uncoated Lumitar in low light city scenery shooting quite a bit. In daylight when shooting against the sun or any other bright lights the flaring and loss of contrast can be quite extreme but I like the color output of the lens a lot and I also like the overall rendering. I think there are no big differences between MC and uncoated versions apart from effects when shooting against light, but those effects can be major.

My copies are both Black & M-mount (#73 MC, and #115 uncoated). The uncoated versions are documented with text in the original boxes saying "non-coat model" in Japanese, and there is F-MC labeling on the MC versions and no corresponding labeling on the uncoated version. The coating related color reflections can also be easily seen on the MC version when looking at the glass though, whereas the uncoated version shows no color reflections at all.

I'm looking forward to shooting more with the uncoated version (which I just acquired about 10 days ago).



Sep 16, 2025 at 06:33 AM
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p.23 #2 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


Juha Kannisto wrote:
It's been one of the most popular MS-Optics lenses and they made more than one production run but they've always been sold relatively fast. Even today the lens is not marked as sold out at MKDirect (MS-Optics own online shop) although it is out of stock there so there could be a chance that they can still make more.

https://www.mkdirect51.com/shop
Overseas buyers could contact MS-Optics directly by e-mail at msopticsmiyazaki @ gmail.com and ask about possibility of bying a new one from there. If they still have parts they might be able to make them based on orders.



Thanks. I was able to reserve a copy. Kamii from MS optics says ETA is February with price being roughly 130000JPY or $850. She said it's going to have redesigned helicoid.



Sep 16, 2025 at 07:17 AM
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p.23 #3 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


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Thanks. I was able to reserve a copy. Kamii from MS optics says ETA is February with price being roughly 130000JPY or $850. She said it's going to have redesigned helicoid.


Good to hear! That redesigned helicoid sounds interesting. My personal copy (Silver #36) has been holding up well but I've seen reports of screws getting loose with many copies of the original version. I bought mine relatively late in January 2024 from remaining stock at Lemonsha Akihabara (probably the last copy they had).

I hope it works out well for you!



Sep 16, 2025 at 07:55 AM
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p.23 #4 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


Juha Kannisto wrote:
Good to hear! That redesigned helicoid sounds interesting. My personal copy (Silver #36) has been holding up well but I've seen reports of screws getting loose with many copies of the original version. I bought mine relatively late in January 2024 from remaining stock at Lemonsha Akihabara (probably the last copy they had).

I hope it works out well for you!


She said the new version will allow closer focus. That would be very cool.




Sep 17, 2025 at 08:53 AM
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p.23 #5 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


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She said the new version will allow closer focus. That would be very cool.



That is cool indeed. My version focuses down to 0.9m but I still love it.



Sep 17, 2025 at 09:21 AM
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MS Optics Apoqualia 28mm f2 on film, specifically Rollei RPX 25, a slow film that allowed me to use wider apertures on the lens to maximize vignetting and character. Photos taken with a Leica M2-R.

On the shale flats by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

Girdled by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

Hydropower by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

Pine trunks by Brad Hurley, on Flickr




Oct 28, 2025 at 03:12 AM
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p.23 #7 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


Am I understanding correctly they are releasing a new 73/1.5 with a closet focusing helicoid?


Oct 28, 2025 at 10:55 AM
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p.23 #8 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


Speaking of the Sonnetar 73/1.5, I used it again last night at a concert; it always delivers the goods.

Les Soeurscières by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

Les Soeurscières by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

Les Soeurscières by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

Les Soeurscières by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

Les Soeurscières by Brad Hurley, on Flickr



Oct 30, 2025 at 10:33 AM
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p.23 #9 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


I reserved one as well, thanks for pointing me to them to do so.

Juha Kannisto wrote:
Good to hear! That redesigned helicoid sounds interesting. My personal copy (Silver #36) has been holding up well but I've seen reports of screws getting loose with many copies of the original version. I bought mine relatively late in January 2024 from remaining stock at Lemonsha Akihabara (probably the last copy they had).

I hope it works out well for you!





Oct 30, 2025 at 09:26 PM
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p.23 #10 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


I just got an email my 73/1.5 in black is done- as soon as the payment is completed to transfer the yen it should be on its way to me 😀




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p.23 #11 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


Looks like MS Optics only accept wire transfer. I got the email to pay for my Sonnetar.


Nov 28, 2025 at 11:38 PM
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p.23 #12 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


May I know if a silver version of 73 f1.5 might be available for pre order?

EMH2025 wrote:
I just got an email my 73/1.5 in black is done- as soon as the payment is completed to transfer the yen it should be on its way to me 😀





Nov 30, 2025 at 01:08 AM
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p.23 #13 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


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May I know if a silver version of 73 f1.5 might be available for pre order?



I think so, when they wrote they said black now and silver early 26, if you send them a reservation request I bet it will be no problem, other than the wait. They seem easy to work with. New now is cheaper than the recent eBay used, so I guess the bottom fell out of the used market for these.








Nov 30, 2025 at 10:42 AM
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p.23 #14 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


Thanks, MS optics has replied they only have black chrome 73mm. I am not sure if i want a black chrome lens although my MS collections are entirely black chrome or black paint. I feel silver 73mm pairs better with silver M10P.


Dec 01, 2025 at 10:28 AM
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p.23 #15 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


My ms optics 73 mm is on its way, just got tracking. When Ms Optics responded to me with tracking they asked if I wanted to reserve a 35 mm 1.3 or 1.4 or both. They are remaking both in 2026, no details about color/material or whether there are any mods to lens. I reserved a 35/1.4. They mentioned as always numbers will be limited. Another option for a new lens- the resale prices of the 35mm are rather high and given the less robust construction of the lenses to make them light always a concern- cheaper new is better. 😀


Dec 09, 2025 at 10:43 AM
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p.23 #16 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


EMH2025 wrote:
My ms optics 73 mm is on its way, just got tracking. When Ms Optics responded to me with tracking they asked if I wanted to reserve a 35 mm 1.3 or 1.4 or both. They are remaking both in 2026, no details about color/material or whether there are any mods to lens. I reserved a 35/1.4. They mentioned as always numbers will be limited. Another option for a new lens- the resale prices of the 35mm are rather high and given the less robust construction of the lenses to make them light always a concern- cheaper new is better.
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There was earlier talk on this thread (from Aug 10 onwards on page 20) about those Apollon 36/1.3 and Apoqualia 35/1.4 re-releases. I also made a reservation for 35/1.4 since I already have all the other 35-36mm lenses from MS-Optics and I've always missed having the 35/1.4 too (they are a bit too rare and pricey in the 2nd hand market).

I got info earlier that 35/1.4 re-release should be available in black, silver and black paint and I reserved the BP version. Expected ETA was mentioned as March and I think for Apollon it was February. I'm not sure if all schedules remain on track but I hope so.

About whether there were going to be any changes for the Apoqualia re-release, I got the following info earlier:

We would like to make minor adjustments and improvements from previous works, but we will produce the product without changing the basic design.

Regarding the optical system, we have made slight adjustments to the thickness in consideration of the individual variations that existed in previous models. This time, we have made efforts to minimize the individual variations and to produce a model that is more faithful to the original design.

Basically, it's no problem to think of it as being the same as the original, except that there are more color variations, such as the black paint.



Dec 09, 2025 at 11:00 AM
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p.23 #17 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


Great point! I've been considering reserving one since they first started opening slots. Might be my reason to do it now


Dec 10, 2025 at 11:03 AM
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p.23 #18 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


Juha Kannisto wrote:
We would like to make minor adjustments and improvements from previous works, but we will produce the product without changing the basic design.

Regarding the optical system, we have made slight adjustments to the thickness in consideration of the individual variations that existed in previous models. This time, we have made efforts to minimize the individual variations and to produce a model that is more faithful to the original design..


In other words, are they saying they tightened the production tolerances to reduce variation while still keeping the original design?



Dec 10, 2025 at 11:51 AM
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p.23 #19 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


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In other words, are they saying they tightened the production tolerances to reduce variation while still keeping the original design?


That's pretty much how I understood it. I didn't ask further questions about it after that.



Dec 10, 2025 at 12:16 PM
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p.23 #20 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


Finally pulled the trigger on a GFX 50R. I have a cousin younger than this camera, so wish me luck that I get at least 5 good years out of it, if not 7 or 8

I hope anyone who's interested in MS Optics lens performance on medium format cameras finds this little test I did helpful. https://www.flickr.com/photos/203956166@N02/albums/72177720330863190

I know before I got a medium format camera myself I was driven crazy by the lack of image samples with MS Optics lenses. They weren't nonexistent, but they were so painfully limited.



Dec 12, 2025 at 05:00 PM
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