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p.3 #1 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


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Hey Bastian,
Have you managed to calibrate the lens for RF accuracy on the 35/1.4 Apoqualia? It appears to share a similar mechanical design with the new 36/1.3 Apollon. As for the MS 24/2 and MS 57/2 Petz, adjusting them is a breeze; you just need to rotate the ring with the two circular holes.

It has a similar ring but with rectangular holes.
It was already well calibrated, so I didn't mess around with it.



Aug 03, 2023 at 02:18 PM
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p.3 #2 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


BastianK wrote:
It has a similar ring but with rectangular holes.
It was already well calibrated, so I didn't mess around with it.


Understood. On the Apollon, the ring with circular holes doesn't control the RF adjustment; its purpose is to tighten the aperture ring. It may require further disassembly to lower the helicoid cylinder to compensate for the front-focusing.



Aug 03, 2023 at 02:23 PM
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p.3 #3 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


Today's shoot with Petz 57/2 on my Sony A7C around Inokashira Park and surrounding areas (Kichijoji, Tokyo): https://photos.app.goo.gl/uhShxxCbCf3jEC3c7.

Everything shot at f8 or wide open at f2.



Aug 05, 2023 at 09:41 AM
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p.3 #4 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


Juha Kannisto wrote:
Today's shoot with Petz 57/2 on my Sony A7C around Inokashira Park and surrounding areas (Kichijoji, Tokyo): https://photos.app.goo.gl/uhShxxCbCf3jEC3c7.

Everything shot at f8 or wide open at f2.


Wonderful!
I love this compact and super light lens as it fulfills all my requirements. Its sharpness at f/8 extends right to the edges, and even when wide open, it delivers remarkable resolution at center without harsh high contrast, offering a subtle glow in the highlights. The specular highlights show a classic touch with distinctive outlining. Whenever I need a super light setup, I pick up this lens over the Leica 50/2 Rigid. Also, I find it more suitable for portraits at 57mm because it allows me to maintain a bit more distance from my subject, which helps reduce any potential face or body distortion.



Aug 05, 2023 at 10:29 AM
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p.3 #5 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


We were at a wedding recently and I used my MS Optics 73/1.5 Sonnetar during the reception and dance party (with light show) that followed. I had fun with slowing the shutter speed to 1/15 (and sometimes 1/5) to get lots of motion blur and to let the light show paint bands and patterns of colors on the dancers.

Clément et Axelle by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

Clément et Axelle by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

Clément et Axelle by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

Clément et Axelle by Brad Hurley, on Flickr



Aug 11, 2023 at 04:37 PM
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p.3 #6 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


A couple of photos from a concert last night, shot on Sony A7iii

MS Optics Sonnetar 73/1.5:

Shahrzad et Louis Latin Jazz by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

MS Optics Apoqualia G 28/2:

Shahrzad et Louis Latin Jazz by Brad Hurley, on Flickr



Aug 14, 2023 at 08:07 AM
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p.3 #7 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


The MS Optics lens I wanted - the 35 1.4 - out of production (I think), here on ebay:



Out of my price range at $2500.

ebay MS Optics 35 1.4



Aug 15, 2023 at 11:12 AM
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p.3 #8 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


Good opportunity to introduce the MS-Optics 35mm 1.4 Apoqualia, one of my favorite MS-Optics lenses.



As usual you can find out more about it in my review.


Leica M6 | MS-Optics 35mm 1.4 Apoqualia | f/2.0 | Gold 200


Leica M10 | MS-Optics 35mm 1.4 Apoqualia | f/2.0


Leica M10 | MS-Optics 35mm 1.4 Apoqualia | f/2.0


Leica M6 | MS-Optics 35mm 1.4 Apoqualia | f/2.0 | Gold 200


Leica M10 | MS-Optics 35mm 1.4 Apoqualia | f/2.0



Aug 15, 2023 at 11:50 AM
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p.3 #9 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


BastianK wrote:
Good opportunity to introduce the MS-Optics 35mm 1.4 Apoqualia, one of my favorite MS-Optics lenses.

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/MS_35_1.4_Title.jpg

As usual you can find out more about it in my review.

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/MS_35_1.4_Gold200_2.0_2.jpg
Leica M6 | MS-Optics 35mm 1.4 Apoqualia | f/2.0 | Gold 200

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/MS-Optics_35mm_1.4_Apoqualia_Sample_41.jpg
Leica M10 | MS-Optics 35mm 1.4 Apoqualia | f/2.0

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/MS-Optics_35mm_1.4_Apoqualia_Sample_15.jpg
Leica M10 | MS-Optics 35mm 1.4 Apoqualia | f/2.0

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/MS_35_1.4_Gold200_2.0_1.jpg
Leica M6 | MS-Optics 35mm 1.4 Apoqualia | f/2.0 | Gold 200

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/MS-Optics_35mm_1.4_Apoqualia_Sample_11.jpg
Leica M10 | MS-Optics 35mm 1.4 Apoqualia | f/2.0


Yup, it's your review that made me want one. The one on ebay is silver, and your black one looks much nicer. I am assuming that you paid a lot less than the current asking price of $2500!



Aug 15, 2023 at 12:12 PM
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p.3 #10 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


Desmolicious wrote:
Out of my price range at $2500.


I've actually seen listings for it at twice that price in recent years, though I doubt (hope) nobody paid that much.



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p.3 #11 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


Desmolicious wrote:
Yup, it's your review that made me want one. The one on ebay is silver, and your black one looks much nicer. I am assuming that you paid a lot less than the current asking price of $2500!

Now I would love if there was a matte black version of it, as this one is a bit glossy and I would prefer matte

I was quite lucky as the previous owner, who sent it to me for a review, was willing to part with it.
It wasn't exactly cheap, but it was a fair price for both parties and in fact considerably less than the ebay price.
Rarely used ones also show up on mapcamera in the ~$1000 range, but they are being sold almost immediately.



Aug 15, 2023 at 02:51 PM
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p.3 #12 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


I much liked but didn’t love the 35/1.4 Apoqualia. Had a hard time finding my copy—took about 3 months, picked mine up for $1,450. Sold it a year later for about $1900. I still have and shoot my 73 Sonnetar. I also owned a 28/2 and 24/2 but kept neither, though I enjoyed both.





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Aug 15, 2023 at 03:36 PM
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p.3 #13 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


The MS Optics 35/1.4 Apoqualia lens is actually around 35.9mm with an aperture of f/1.47. The new 36/1.3 Apollon lens measures about 36.2mm with an aperture of f/1.38 according to MS Optics. To make it simpler, we round these numbers to 36/1.5 for the Apoqualia and 36/1.4 for the Apollon.

The Apoqualia lens is highly prized by collectors, especially in Japan. Its price has gone way up because it's no longer being made.

The new Apollon 36/1.3 lens is a bit faster and has a similar design to the Apoqualia, with 6 elements in a Double-Gauss arrangement. MS Optics might have introduced the Apollon as a replacement for the Apoqualia.



Aug 15, 2023 at 03:56 PM
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p.3 #14 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


nehemiahphoto wrote:
I much liked but didn’t love the 35/1.4 Apoqualia. Had a hard time finding my copy—took about 3 months, picked mine up for $1,450. Sold it a year later for about $1900. I still have and shoot my 73 Sonnetar. I also owned a 28/2 and 24/2 but kept neither, though I enjoyed both.


Lovely pics! They should use you to sell their lenses!



Aug 16, 2023 at 11:13 AM
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p.3 #15 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


@Desmoliciois Thanks Huss! I wouldn’t mind being sent some funky MS lenses and supplying some photos


Aug 16, 2023 at 12:46 PM
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p.3 #16 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


The A7C camera with the TechArt adapter and the MS Optics Aporia 24/2 lens creates a lightweight setup, weighing about 625 grams in total. To fit the lens into the adapter, you need to unscrew the focusing pin.

However, even when set to infinity, the lens still offers an excellent close-up range. I get MFD ≈ 0.27 meters when adapter is fully extended at 4.5m. So no need to change the focus from infinity.

I've included pictures of how it looks on the camera with the adapter, along with a couple of sample images I recently captured using this setup.




  ILCE-7C    MS Optics 24mm f/2 Aporia lens    24mm    f/2.0    1/2500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-7C    MS Optics 24mm f/2 Aporia lens    24mm    f/2.0    1/3200s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-7C    MS Optics 24mm f/2 Aporia lens    24mm    f/2.0    1/200s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  









Aug 18, 2023 at 06:42 PM
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Very interesting Fred, thanks for sharing. Such ultra-compact set looks jacket pocketable. I was considering A7c in the past for extra compactness, but X100V won in that regard due to larger EVF. If only Sony had RF form factor camera like A7c but with larger EVF - that would work perfect for both AF and MF.


Aug 18, 2023 at 07:30 PM
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p.3 #18 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


yukosteel wrote:
Very interesting Fred, thanks for sharing. Such ultra-compact set looks jacket pocketable. I was considering A7c in the past for extra compactness, but X100V won in that regard due to larger EVF. If only Sony had RF form factor camera like A7c but with larger EVF - that would work perfect for both AF and MF.


The A7C is really small for a full frame camera, but definitely not as small as the X100V, which has a smaller sensor and a lens built in. The EVF is a weak point for the A7C, both in terms of resolution and magnification. Hopefully, in the next version (Mark II), Sony will at least improve the latter.

The TechArt adapter (LM-EA9) is a fantastic tool that provides dependable autofocus for M-mount lenses, especially when the subject is at focused at center. The AF speed is faster with lighter lenses, so the ultra-light MS Optics lenses are an excellent option for this purpose.



Aug 18, 2023 at 10:31 PM
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p.3 #19 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


I have been raving about the Sonnetar 50mm 1.3 but I’m discovering the rendering of the Petzval(I saw there is two versions of it(historic and vario I believe) and it’s quite nice, feels more like the Panchro with the look of the bubble bokeh than the Sonnetar maybe closer to the other Sonnar plus the field curvature and to the Heliar.
I wonder where the Vario Plasmat fits between these rendering.



Aug 30, 2023 at 06:39 AM
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p.3 #20 · MS-Optics lenses Image and Discussion Thread


Sonnar-7 wrote:
I have been raving about the Sonnetar 50mm 1.3 but I’m discovering the rendering of the Petzval(I saw there is two versions of it(historic and vario I believe) and it’s quite nice, feels more like the Panchro with the look of the bubble bokeh than the Sonnetar maybe closer to the other Sonnar plus the field curvature and to the Heliar.
I wonder where the Vario Plasmat fits between these rendering.


The Petz lens is a bit longer at 57mm, and it's a variation of the famous Petzval design, and this is noticeable in its performance and rendering. It gives a similar look to the Panchro lens when compared side by side, but it's incredibly compact and lightweight. The Panchro is crisper at the edges, although this might not be a big concern for you when using these lenses.

I have the historic version, and I got it in Tokyo. The vario is neat because it allows you to change the coma "look," but in my opinion, the lens has a beautiful character as it is in the historic version. It's very easy to adjust the lens for the rangefinder in case it's not aligned perfectly.



Aug 30, 2023 at 03:49 PM
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