p.35 #1 · The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
Ross Martin wrote:
Bill Claff @bclaff_too@ released his dynamic range test results for the Z8. Shown here versus the A7RV:
A comparison with the A-1 is the better comparison (both are stacked electronics sensors with similar applications). The result is essentially the same with the A-1 about 0.3 stop better.
The same is true for Input-referred read noise. The A-1 is a little better.
Regardless, both are superb.
p.35 #4 · The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
patotts wrote:
Man, these Z8 recalls, and now not the material availability to fix'em. That is a bummer!
At least Nikon stepped up and issued a recall. Even on only certain serial numbers. Meanwhile in Sony land shutter failure on the A7III and now A7IV is still getting the silent treatment. As is any firmware updates on the A1.
p.35 #7 · The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
liggy wrote:
I like your style
It's not a mutually exclusive thing - why not?
I would prefer having and using only one of them, even if it were the one I like less. Otherwise I'd need to carry both or invest in similar lenses for both. And the differences in operation and configuration would drive me nuts, while either one can be operated just fine.
p.35 #8 · The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
Daran wrote:
I would prefer having and using only one of them, even if it were the one I like less. Otherwise I'd need to carry both or invest in similar lenses for both. And the differences in operation and configuration would drive me nuts, while either one can be operated just fine.
Totally logical. No argument from me there.
I like toys and am of the mind that some things are just better suited to a particular job.
I ended up adding Sony to my kit because it is just a much better choice for BIF/action/tele than Fuji. Turns out I went pretty far down the rabbit hole of glass though. Oops.
Still keeping Fuji for the tactile pleasure of using the cameras but am slowly selling off some of the redundant lenses.
Then again there's very little chance I'd go for the Z8 because I don't really care for PASM and it's not giving me anything more that I need from the A1. . I do wish that Sony would offer an 800PF but it's not enough to switch or add one body/lens for.
p.35 #9 · The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
Daran wrote:
I would prefer having and using only one of them, even if it were the one I like less. Otherwise I'd need to carry both or invest in similar lenses for both. And the differences in operation and configuration would drive me nuts, while either one can be operated just fine.
I see your point and here is what I experienced last year:
I added a Fuji GFX 100s system with a few lenses last year in addition to my Sony system that already has an extensive lens lineup. Locally, I could choose either system to shoot with and it worked okay that way for a while. Then I went on a landscape trip and took both systems. Although I was driving and the trip lasted only less than a week, it was really a chore and cumbersome to use both systems. Of course, I am not youngest… I sold my GFX system shortly after the trip. And I continue using my Sony since it is a more nimble system with better AF for other aspects of photography I do and yes, the lens selection for that plays a role, too. The Fuji GFX 100s system was more an affair to me at that time.
I could see the advantages of the GFX due to larger sensor size and to some folks, the difference is enough to justify having 2 systems, especially if you are more into landscape or studio photography or even to choose Fuji GFX over Sony. But having both systems of virtually the same AF performance and similar image quality output makes less sense, IMHO. I am referring to the Sony A1 vs Nikon Z8 here. I thought I put it out there but I understand that your mileage may vary.
p.35 #10 · The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
AGeoJO wrote:
I see your point and here is what I experienced last year:
I added a Fuji GFX 100s system with a few lenses last year in addition to my Sony system that already has an extensive lens lineup. Locally, I could choose either system to shoot with and it worked okay that way for a while. Then I went on a landscape trip and took both systems. Although I was driving and the trip lasted only less than a week, it was really a chore and cumbersome to use both systems. Of course, I am not youngest… I sold my GFX system shortly after the trip. And I continue using my Sony since it is a more nimble system with better AF for other aspects of photography I do and yes, the lens selection for that plays a role, too. The Fuji GFX 100s system was more an affair to me at that time.
I could see the advantages of the GFX due to larger sensor size and to some folks, the difference is enough to justify having 2 systems, especially if you are more into landscape or studio photography or even to choose Fuji GFX over Sony. But having both systems of virtually the same AF performance and similar image quality output makes less sense, IMHO. I am referring to the Sony A1 vs Nikon Z8 here. I thought I put it out there but I understand that your mileage may vary....Show more →
Funny - I'm contemplating selling the GFX kit for the very same reason. I thought I'd be doing more dedicated landscape in retirement but it hasn't really worked out that way.
The A1 is no slouch in the IQ department and more fun to use than the GFX.
p.35 #11 · The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
For reasons I can’t completely understand I stay invested in both Sony and Canon with an R5. like both and I’m sure that Canon being my DSLR and Film system for 30years has something to do with it. Although I’ve now been shooting Sony mirrorless for 10 years. First with APS-C then FF. Have also shot Fuji as well.
Thought I would try GFX 100S but a close friend’s experience caused me to hesitate. Maybe some day.
Last year I tried a Nikon Z9 for a year but in the end gave it up to get back the money I drop on the system.
p.35 #12 · The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
I speak/read/write 3 languages fluently, and on a daily basis, I use Android and iOS, Windows and MacOS, SQL Server and Postgres, listen to songs in 7 different languages, etc etc. I love variety and the ability to swiftly switch contexts is ... in my theory .. helpful in keeping Alzheimer's away, as I grow older.
p.35 #13 · The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
saaketham wrote:
I speak/read/write 3 languages fluently, and on a daily basis, I use Android and iOS, Windows and MacOS, SQL Server and Postgres, listen to songs in 7 different languages, etc etc. I love variety and the ability to swiftly switch contexts is ... in my theory .. helpful in keeping Alzheimer's away, as I grow older.
More power to you, Anil! This is exactly what I meant with “your mileage may vary…”
p.35 #16 · The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
dclark wrote:
A comparison with the A-1 is the better comparison (both are stacked electronics sensors with similar applications). The result is essentially the same with the A-1 about 0.3 stop better.
The same is true for Input-referred read noise. The A-1 is a little better.
Regardless, both are superb.
Alternatively, which Nikon camera would be a better comparison to the A7RV?
p.35 #17 · The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
vdo1 wrote:
Alternatively, which Nikon camera would be a better comparison to the A7RV?
Nikon lacks an exact competitor, particularly wrt to the AF system of the RV. The closest is probably the Z7II at the low end, and the Z8, although the Z8 puts a bigger emphasis on speed.
p.35 #18 · The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
I couldn't care less what Nikon, Canon, or anyone else releases. I'm a Sony shooter now and am never changing systems again (already done that way too many times).
Now what I would like to see is an A1 that has:
- Automatic DoF bracketing for focus stacking;
- A fully articulating rear LCD.
Those are pretty much the only things that could persuade me to upgrade from or otherwise change out my current A1.
p.35 #20 · The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
1bwana1 wrote:
Currently I don't see a good Nikon competitor to the A7RV. Maybe the Z7III when it is released next year.
I don't know what they're going to do with a Z7III - 61MP doesn't really feel like enough of an upgrade to give it a place over the Z8's other features, which I'm assuming wouldn't trickle down to it. Mirrorless product line differentiation/segmentation across all the brands is really kind of a mess right now.
. I do wish that Sony would offer an 800PF but it's not enough to switch or add one body/lens for. 
