p.47 #1 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
JadedWriter wrote:
Editing slow mo is like 10 seconds worth of work in Adobe Premiere. You're basically importing, picking what you need, right clicking and setting the playback speed, trimming, rendering and hitting export.
Not even Premiere, Rush works just the same. If you're already trimming, editing playback speed is a simple drag of a slider while you're doing it.
p.47 #2 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
I know nothing about Rush since I don't think it's in my jobs Adobe suite options. RoamingScott wrote:
Not even Premiere, Rush works just the same. If you're already trimming, editing playback speed is a simple drag of a slider while you're doing it.
p.47 #4 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
True, I have a workflow so it's very easy for me to casually jump into things in there and do basic stuff. RoamingScott wrote:
Rush is free for anyone with an Adobe account, I'm pretty sure. Far less daunting for a beginner/casual video shooter than full blown Premiere.
p.47 #5 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
groob wrote:
My God, if Nikon actually achieved parity on swallows at 200 feet in front of a varied background, will the Sony forum even exist anymore? What will there be to discuss?
As soon as that happens I won't have any need for the Sony forum anymore so may it RIP....I'll be shooting some Nikon then.
p.47 #6 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
Sony forum is not the issue - it's a perfectly nice forum with lots of good photographers, healthy discussions and is very active.
Problem is the small handful of insecure Sony shooters who wander about looking to make other brand users feel bad, so they can feel better.
p.47 #7 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
groob wrote:
My God, if Nikon actually achieved parity on swallows at 200 feet in front of a varied background, will the Sony forum even exist anymore? What will there be to discuss?
Instead of having two airplane modes, Nikon should sacrifice one of them for a dedicated Hirundinidae mode.
p.47 #8 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
arbitrage wrote:
As soon as that happens I won't have any need for the Sony forum anymore so may it RIP....I'll be shooting some Nikon then.
I went through that several weeks ago. My A7RV went on the chopping block along with it's lenses for a Z9/24-120/100-400S and I'm not missing it at all.
p.47 #9 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
I really am naive. Why would being able to focus on a small fast moving bird at 65 or 70 yards on a busy background be important? That is a long way. Why not wait until the bird is closer? Thanks for your help.
arbitrage wrote:
As soon as that happens I won't have any need for the Sony forum anymore so may it RIP....I'll be shooting some Nikon then.
p.47 #10 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
FrankA373 wrote:
I really am naive. Why would being able to focus on a small fast moving bird at 65 or 70 yards on a busy background be important? That is a long way. Why not wait until the bird is closer? Thanks for your help.
Because it’s much easier to track a bird in flight if you can get the bird in the viewfinder from far away and track it until it’s within shooting range. The faster the bird, the truer this is. So, it makes swallow shooting, in particular, much easier.
p.47 #11 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
groob wrote:
Because it’s much easier to track a bird in flight if you can get the bird in the viewfinder from far away and track it until it’s within shooting range. The faster the bird, the truer this is. So, it makes swallow shooting, in particular, much easier.
You sure you can see a swallow 70 yards out against a busy background? Even if you manage to put it in VF, it's going to fly straight towards you instead of making a sharp turn and completely gets out of the VF?
I think arbitrage is just teasing you in response to your rhetoric statement.
p.47 #12 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
IlyaSnopchenko wrote:
'cause I have quite a few SD cards from using other cameras, and a slot for these in the laptop. With the new cards, I need a new external reader (not to mention that I had to buy two expensive cards at once to stick in the camera, for redundancy).
Still don't have the card reader - can't be bothered to spend the time looking for it on the flea market ATM - so I can't even update the firmware as it has to be written to the card, and just connecting the camera with a USB cable doesn't count as mass storage. Go figure, Nikon was always better than Canon in this regard before, and now it's the same....Show more →
If you can afford a Z9 you can afford 2 CF Express cards.
Jun 14, 2023 at 02:12 AM
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p.47 #13 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
dcisive wrote:
The way I interpret Jan's video .... So he learned that the Z8 (like the Z9) was not designed to be an "auto pilot" mentality when shooting, but rather giving the user the full flexibility to dial it in for each specific shooting scenario. Professionals tend to want that, and that is the audience Nikon has sought all these years. And they are nailing it. Canon and Sony are for autopilot folks.
Oh right - I wonder who the audience for "Auto Capture" is then
Nikon just keeps on giving... must be tough being a Nikon Pro Photographer - all these new features than nobody wants !!
Well OK maybe they just don't have the "mentality" to use these features.
Sorry - responded to the wrong post - couldn't be bothered to fix it.
Jun 14, 2023 at 02:15 AM
duncang Offline • • • [X]
p.47 #14 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
FrankA373 wrote:
I really am naive. Why would being able to focus on a small fast moving bird at 65 or 70 yards on a busy background be important? That is a long way. Why not wait until the bird is closer? Thanks for your help.
p.47 #15 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
arbitrage wrote:
The question remains though....despite the multitude of FW updates and great new innovative features, has this FW actually brought the underlying AF up to the 2.5 year old benchmark set by the A1? Somehow I doubt it has. But once Z8 gets this FW I'll give it a test run.
p.47 #16 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
duncang wrote:
Oh right - I wonder who the audience for "Auto Capture" is then
Nikon just keeps on giving... must be tough being a Nikon Pro Photographer - all these new features than nobody wants !!
Well OK maybe they just don't have the "mentality" to use these features.
Sorry - responded to the wrong post - couldn't be bothered to fix it.
You must not shoot any animals that require you to hide from them. I am very excited for auto capture. I’ll use it for wide angle shots of birds, very skittish ducks, and landing swallows.
Also, it’s just pathetic that you feel the need to peruse the Nikon forum every day in search of a post that you don’t believe heaps enough praise on Sony. You really have nothing better to do?
p.47 #19 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
groob wrote:
You must not shoot any animals that require you to hide from them. I am very excited for auto capture. I’ll use it for wide angle shots of birds, very skittish ducks, and landing swallows.
I wonder if this feature will be useful for fast moving birds that are skittish. I struggle getting close enough to kingfishers to get good shots of them diving for fish.
p.47 #20 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
FrankA373 wrote:
I really am naive. Why would being able to focus on a small fast moving bird at 65 or 70 yards on a busy background be important? That is a long way. Why not wait until the bird is closer? Thanks for your help.
Essentially what groob said. With such a small, fast and erratic bird it is easier to acquire when it is smaller in the frame as it moves slower through the given FOV of your given lens. Then the camera can track it as it comes in closer, bird is larger in the frame and the background goes OOF due to the diminishing DOF as the camera focuses closer.
I have four different locations I shoot swallows at over the season. Different spots better than others at different times of the year. It is mostly the early April spot where I need to acquire them over complicated backgrounds and I'd estimate (I'm horrible at estimating distances but used Google Maps measure tool) that most times I acquire around 40 meters out. I try to fire most of my shots around 10m or closer if I can manage keeping them in the frame at that close of range.
