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p.7 #1 · An RF 100-300 2.8 lens...


Weird astigmatism with the TC. Maybe the TCs are not optimal for that lens?

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Apr 20, 2023 at 08:27 AM
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Weight? Yes. Size? Not really. 3” longer.

mb126 wrote:
So they turned the 300 f/2.8 IS II into a 100-300 f/2.8 while keeping the same size and weight? Very cool stuff. If I was still shooting sports this would be an instant buy.

I think this lens is a winner for the target demographic, which is photojournalists that owned both a 300 f/2.8 prime and the EF 200-400. Assuming the IQ is good with extenders, 300-600 f/5.6 is very serviceable for field sports in the day too. They delivered a replacement for both of those lenses in one in a very manageable footprint.





Apr 20, 2023 at 09:01 AM
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I see Vistek has it listed at $12,999 CAD. Crazy.

I remember buying my 600II for $10,700 in 2012.



Apr 20, 2023 at 09:06 AM
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Having owed some of the top RF glass available I have to say this lens, in my personal opinion, feels way overpriced for what it is.


Apr 20, 2023 at 09:17 AM
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Everything you pointed out is how I felt when I heard Nikon was going to offer telephoto lenses with built in teleconverters. After shooting with Canon for close to 30 years I made the move early last year when I was able to get the Z 400mm 2.8 with the built in TC.

I sold my R3, R5 and all my RF L series glass (16-35mm 2.8, 50mm 1.2, 28-70mm 2.0, 100-500mm and 400mm 2.8) and I haven’t looked back. I really loved the ergonomics and weight of the R3 but after spending 7 weeks shooting in South Africa with the Z9 + 400mm with the built in TC I knew I made the right decision.

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Seems like a cool lens but I’m pretty disappointed to see Canon going in this direction with their RF super tele’s. A 300 f/2.8 DO with a built-in extender would have been a pre-order for me but as a bird photographer I have no desire to own this one. Hate to say it because I love my R3 but Nikon’s looking better and better, for birding their lineup just makes a lot more sense. I’ve often considered buying a 400 f/2.8 to accompany my 600 f/4 but just didn’t feel like carrying around two big whites. Nikon essentially gives you
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Apr 20, 2023 at 09:27 AM
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arbitrage wrote:
Weight? Yes. Size? Not really. 3” longer.



I haven't looked it up personally, but does that 3'' include the difference between EF vs RF mount? So if we subtract an inch for that, it's ~20% longer and same weight? Ok, bigger but still very comparable. And this lens will spend a lot of its life on a monopod anyway.

Nonetheless, I think this is a very impressive achievement if the optics are similar, in practice, to the 300 2.8 II/400 DO II. Basically, similar footprint but added *huge* flexibility with the zoom range. Appreciably smaller than the 200-400. There are lots of sports PJs out there that own the 200-400 for field sports during the day and the 300 for indoors (e.g. far court basketball) and when the lights go down.

I can't justify one personally. But having formerly been employed in the target demographic for this lens, it's going to be an enormous winner for the target audience. And I'd venture they might even find some niches they weren't expecting, such as those in the wedding crowd that tend to frequent traditional churches that don't let you get close (again, shot weddings for 5 years and absolutely would have loved this lens for that purpose if I already owned it).






Apr 20, 2023 at 09:40 AM
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robert_in_ca wrote:
Having owed some of the top RF glass available I have to say this lens, in my personal opinion, feels way overpriced for what it is.


It IS pretty darned expensive, however I think Canon can probably make a case that the price is arguably aligned with its value, and for some buyers who might want both of the predecessors — or who want al of their functionality in a single lens — the price probably isn't impossible to swallow..

From one perspective, it provides the functionality of both the RF (and EF) 70-200mm f/2.8L and the EF 300mm f/2.8L lenses in a single package. The pricing on those two lenses is roughly:

RF 70-200mm f/2.8L: $2800
EF 300mm f/2.8L: $6000-$6500.

The sum of the prices is roughly $9000. Note that the 300mm is EF — a RF version would certainly be more.

The lens isn't in my future, but it will sell.



Apr 20, 2023 at 09:47 AM
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Valid points Dan. Personally I feel that’s where the 70-200mm 2.8 comes into play.

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It IS pretty darned expensive, however I think Canon can probably make a case that the price is arguably aligned with its value, and for some buyers who might want both of the predecessors — or who want al of their functionality in a single lens — the price probably isn't impossible to swallow..

From one perspective, it provides the functionality of both the RF (and EF) 70-200mm f/2.8L and the EF 300mm f/2.8L lenses in a single package. The pricing on those two lenses is roughly:

RF 70-200mm f/2.8L: $2800
EF 300mm f/2.8L: $6000-$6500.

The sum of the prices is roughly $9000.
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Apr 20, 2023 at 10:14 AM
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Yes, unless it´s birds in cages. And as Tony5787 suggests it leaves room for a DO 300/2.8 with built in 1.4x that can be very small/short and light compared to a non DO dito. My guess is that a 200-500 f/4 would be the RF 500/4 with 200-499 included and in our hands far before the DO 300. Include a 1.4x in the 200-500 and the price for the 100-300 will be a real bargin.



super bummed with this 100-300 release as everything I'm reading says it's throwing away any hope of an RF 300 w/ 1.4x

so here's to hoping the 200-500 f4 w/ 1.4x comes out. that would be a beast birding lens. would fit perfect with the rf 600

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It IS pretty darned expensive, however I think Canon can probably make a case that the price is arguably aligned with its value, and for some buyers who might want both of the predecessors — or who want al of their functionality in a single lens — the price probably isn't impossible to swallow..

From one perspective, it provides the functionality of both the RF (and EF) 70-200mm f/2.8L and the EF 300mm f/2.8L lenses in a single package. The pricing on those two lenses is roughly:

RF 70-200mm f/2.8L: $2800
EF 300mm f/2.8L: $6000-$6500.

The sum of the prices is roughly $9000.
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this is a really good argument for the pricing

the only consideration being new vs used, as I just picked up an RF 70-200 F2.8 for $2000, and an EF 300 II for $3000

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I haven't read all of the reviews or watched the videos yet, but is the general consensus that people think this zoom would have similar quality to the prime?

seems like it would take a massive technological advancement (which is possible given it's been what, 12 years since the EF 300 II?) but it just goes against every fiber of my being to think a 100-300 zoom could replace a 300 prime



Apr 20, 2023 at 10:27 AM
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nmerc_photos wrote:
super bummed with this 100-300 release as everything I'm reading says it's throwing away any hope of an RF 300 w/ 1.4x

so here's to hoping the 200-500 f4 w/ 1.4x comes out. that would be a beast birding lens. would fit perfect with the rf 600


Thinking about this lens even more, I think I'm starting to understand it better. One of the biggest draws for an internal TC is so you can have 2 focal lengths without having to fumble with a TC in environmental conditions. A zoom solves that issue. Why be limited to only 300 and 420mm with a built in TC when you can use it as 100 - 300mm at 2.8 for low light, but then if you want to use it for decent light put the TC on the lens and leave it there. You'll have 140 - 420 at f4 and can choose anything in between that range. That's certainly way more adaptable than only having 300 and 420 at your disposal. On top of that if the light is really good, you certainly can just grab that 2x TC and then use it as a sudo birding lens that's 200 - 600mm at 5.6. If your main goal was 200 - 600 then Sony is a much better purchase than this, but owners of that combination would need to stop shooting before the sun goes down.

If you contrast the zoom with TC versus prime with an internal TC, being able to flip from F/4 back to F/2.8 is faster than having to unmount everything. However, I can't think of many times where that's something you would be doing back and forth to get F2.8, then F4, then F2.8 again. It's much more likely you're going to pick one aperture for an extended period of time and only switch after the light changes significantly. So comparing that advantage seems like a wash in most cases, and having more focal lengths to choose from is much more desirable.



Apr 20, 2023 at 11:25 AM
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bman212121 wrote:
Thinking about this lens even more, I think I'm starting to understand it better. One of the biggest draws for an internal TC is so you can have 2 focal lengths without having to fumble with a TC in environmental conditions. A zoom solves that issue. Why be limited to only 300 and 420mm with a built in TC when you can use it as 100 - 300mm at 2.8 for low light, but then if you want to use it for decent light put the TC on the lens and leave it there. You'll have 140 - 420 at
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I agree, the more I learn about the lens the more I see the appeal.

But in my world, a static 300 w/ 1.4x is far more valuable than a 100-300 without a TC. especially when the rumored price was more in line with expectations between $5k - $7k

It's surprising to me that these manufacturers don't put a 1.4x TC in every single prime above $5K. I don't understand the downfall.

It's the easiest way to add flexibility to a lens, and anyone I've ever talked to would happily pay the premium for it

the TC built in is less about swapping from F2.8 to F4 to F2.8 as it is switching from close reach to far reach as subjects approach you. I guess a zoom minimizes that that issue but it'll certainly still happen

also in most cases, I (and others) just disregard the 2x since it leads to a noticeable degradation in quality. so this lens wouldn't really ever fit the bill of a 200-600 f5.6 in my mind. I doubt it would compare to the existing Sony $1500 lens or the rumored Nikon one coming out.

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Apr 20, 2023 at 11:53 AM
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nmerc_photos wrote:
I agree, the more I learn about the lens the more I see the appeal.

But in my world, a static 300 w/ 1.4x is far more valuable than a 100-300 without a TC.

It's surprising to me that these manufacturers don't put a 1.4x TC in every single prime above $9K. I don't understand the downfall.

It's the easiest way to add flexibility to a lens, and anyone I've ever talked to would happily pay the premium for it

the TC built in is less about swapping from F2.8 to F4 to F2.8 as it is switching from close reach to far reach
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Well, any 1.4x would have to be able to fit into the lens design, and that massively complicates the design of the standard lens. For instance, in this lens, where would you put the 1.4x? (the highlighted area is the focus group, so those elements slide up and down that whole section.



Putting it behind (where the regular 1.4x goes) doesnt' work, because then the elements of the base lens don't converge at the right point. It's very possible that adding one internal would completely destroy this particular design, or increase weight by 1.5 lbs, or increase cost by $3,000, or some other thing. It's not always as easy as 'put it in.'



Apr 20, 2023 at 11:58 AM
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Jman13 wrote:
Well, any 1.4x would have to be able to fit into the lens design, and that massively complicates the design of the standard lens. For instance, in this lens, where would you put the 1.4x? (the highlighted area is the focus group, so those elements slide up and down that whole section.

Putting it behind (where the regular 1.4x goes) doesnt' work, because then the elements of the base lens don't converge at the right point. It's very possible that adding one internal would completely destroy this particular design, or increase weight by 1.5 lbs, or increase cost by $3,000, or
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Fair point about the design. Admittedly, I don't know anything about how lenses operate.

My experience is mainly comparing the fact that Canon built in 1.4x at least 10 years ago, if not more. So they know how to do it.

And if Nikon can do it on the 400/600, Canon should be able to reasonably do it as well, no?

For the 300 specifically, I was going off the rumored patents that said it could be done.

I know the RF line has all sorts of whacky stuff when it comes to teleconverters.

RF 100-500 compatibility sucks having to be 300mm+

RF extenders can only be stacked using an extension tube, and even then it doesn't work on the best lenses (400mm + 600mm) but works on all the others.

Design is definitely a mystery to me...

Another thought - if you can attach an external TC, how much different is building an internal one? It would be the same thing as the EF III primes vs the RF primes, where they just added the RF-EF adapter and didn't change anything else




Apr 20, 2023 at 12:00 PM
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nmerc_photos wrote:
I agree, the more I learn about the lens the more I see the appeal.

But in my world, a static 300 w/ 1.4x is far more valuable than a 100-300 without a TC. especially when the rumored price was more in line with expectations between $5k - $7k

It's surprising to me that these manufacturers don't put a 1.4x TC in every single prime above $5K. I don't understand the downfall.

It's the easiest way to add flexibility to a lens, and anyone I've ever talked to would happily pay the premium for it

the TC built in is less about swapping
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Another consideration for why they might not choose that route could be using a TC with video would certainly be jarring. You could do a zoom pull on a 3x zoom while a subject approaches the camera, but with a TC there's going to be this period of weirdness where the subject is distorted while the elements are moved, followed by the subject changing in size by 40%. Time will tell how para-focal this lens is for using some of that zoom range, but it might be another design consideration against using a TC.

The main reason for not having TCs is definitely what Jman13 stated. If you're putting one of the lens it will make the lens always a few inches longer. The main issue is that throws of the center of balance of the lens. Some of canon's older lenses you can really feel that, and personally I've always felt like the 70 - 200mm f2.8 is front heavy. This RF lens is basically designed where they are intentionally trying to change that balance by putting as much of the glass near the body as possible. So even though on paper the overall weight of the lens is more, it will feel less heavy because it's causing less strain while holding it. Having to add a TC at the back of the lens is counter productive to that goal of making the ergonomics of the lens better.

EDIT: For what it's worth, here is their reasoning as found on the PDF linked in another thread:

We expected technical difficulties in expanding the range of shooting
possibilities. However, we were unwilling to compromise on achieving 3x zoom
from the 100mm wide-angle end. We also considered a lens with a built-in
extender, but we decided to achieve 3x zoom without a built-in extender as it
offered the best balance between size, performance, and spec.


Also, they omitted the rear drop in filter for basically the same reasons why they wouldn't put a TC in that location.

The drop-in filter was omitted by pursuing a compact size, reduced weight,
and an optical design where the lens group is placed close to the mount. As a
result, the large diameter of the lens barrel, which was a concern in terms of lens
strength, has been removed, and the thinner outer barrel also contributed to
further weight reduction.


https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1804968



Apr 20, 2023 at 12:12 PM
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Regarding price: it's clearly set in accordance to the price point established by Nikon with their equivalent lens. I'm actually somewhat surprised it didn't land higher than $10K.

nmerc_photos wrote:
super bummed with this 100-300 release as everything I'm reading says it's throwing away any hope of an RF 300 w/ 1.4x

so here's to hoping the 200-500 f4 w/ 1.4x comes out. that would be a beast birding lens. would fit perfect with the rf 600


I expect there will be a slower 300 DO prime released at some point to fill certain niches - smaller, lighter, less expensive. But doubt it would have a built-in TC. As I suggested earlier, I also think this will happen at 500mm, especially if a 200-500w/TC materializes.

bman212121 wrote:
Thinking about this lens even more, I think I'm starting to understand it better. One of the biggest draws for an internal TC is so you can have 2 focal lengths without having to fumble with a TC in environmental conditions. A zoom solves that issue. Why be limited to only 300 and 420mm with a built in TC when you can use it as 100 - 300mm at 2.8 for low light, but then if you want to use it for decent light put the TC on the lens and leave it there. You'll have 140 - 420 at
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I transitioned from a set of primes (300, 400, 600) to the 200-400 back in 2013, primarily to shoot field sports such as football. The major appeal of the zoom for me was that: I no longer had to fumble with TCs in rain/snow conditions when the gear was under a rain cover; switching the TC in/out was very fast - I could be shooting a QB scrambling out of the pocket downfield at 560mm, switch out the TC and zoom back to 200mm for a pass reception. The biggest problem I had with the primes was when action came too close on sustained plays. Unlike wildlife photographers, I was rarely reach limited. And in situations I would be, the artistic value of the images was poor (far-field action with no subject-background separation). Obviously the zoom provides a lot more compositional flexibility. The tradeoff was not as pretty background bokeh (more swirl in the image periphery) and slight loss in image quality that has become more apparent as sensor resolution increased the past few years. The 200-400's AF also isn't as super snappy as the primes, though it generally has little trouble tracking athletes once locked on.

Regarding the 100-300, I'm also a little disappointed it does not have the built-in TC. But it's probable that would have resulted in greater IQ compromises than the external TCs, plus added size, weight and of course raised the price.

As more of a field sport photographer, I'm a bit on the fence about the 100-300. I would probably use it most of the time with the 1.4x TC and if one compares Canon's MTFs for the 100-300 with and without 1.4x TC against the bare 200-400, there doesn't seem to be an optical (sharpness) advantage for the 100-300. In some respects, this is even a bit concerning about how similarly the 100-300 performs because my experience with the 200-400 has been that while it's very good on 20-24MP, it's possibly showing some age at 45MP, particularly with its internal TC.

Below are MTF comparisons of the 100-300 bare and with 1.4x TC against the 200-400 bare and with internal TC:





(Unfortunately I was not able to find the EF300/2.8 IS v2 MTFs because the lens is no longer listed as a current model on the Canon sites I checked.)

Considering that about 50% of my football photos each game are with the internal 1.4x TC engaged, the 100-300 w/2x TC MTFs (below) appear to indicate it would be a step down in IQ, particularly at the long end where the 200-400 w/TC improves a little over the wide end.





And for reference, here's the RF400/2.8 MTF:



The astigmatism implied by the 100-300 and 200-400 MTFs (separation of the tangential and sagittal lines as they move away from the image center) suggests that like the 200-400, the 100-300 will have some slight background bokeh swirl.


For arena and court sports, the 100-300 makes a very strong case were in many situations it could replace the need for a 70-200. One could go 24-70 or 24-105 for near action and the 100-300 (with and without TC) for everything else. The RF 70-200's TC incompatibility is just another point in favor of the 100-300 for covering that range. Of course it's a lot larger and heavier than a 70-200. This means it may not be a feasible alternative for some situations, such as shooting through photo cutouts at hockey games where a smaller, lighter, more maneuverable lens that cleanly fits the cutout opening would be a major advantage.



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To not try to make the quoting get out of hand, I'd agree that the 100 - 300 doesn't necessarily replace the 200 - 400 with a TC on it. I question if it's supposed to if you are using the TC more than half of the time. The question would be, if Canon does make a 200 - 500, would 200 - 500F4 without a TC be better than the 200 - 400F4 + 1.4x TC?

If you can change the size, weight, and balance of the lens and still have a significant zoom range, would occasionally flipping on a TC be a worthy tradeoff? (Comparing a 200 - 500 without it versus one with) I'm not so sure it would be but that I've never held the 200 - 400 to know how it feels.



Apr 20, 2023 at 12:30 PM
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bman212121 wrote:
Another consideration for why they might not choose that route could be using a TC with video would certainly be jarring. You could do a zoom pull on a 3x zoom while a subject approaches the camera, but with a TC there's going to be this period of weirdness where the subject is distorted while the elements are moved, followed by the subject changing in size by 40%. Time will tell how para-focal this lens is for using some of that zoom range, but it might be another design consideration against using a TC.

The main reason for not having TCs
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good stuff in here. thanks for linking the pertinent parts of the PDF

there's always a LOT more that goes into design that what we (the consumer) see

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To not try to make the quoting get out of hand, I'd agree that the 100 - 300 doesn't necessarily replace the 200 - 400 with a TC on it. I question if it's supposed to if you are using the TC more than half of the time. The question would be, if Canon does make a 200 - 500, would 200 - 500F4 without a TC be better than the 200 - 400F4 + 1.4x TC?

If you can change the size, weight, and balance of the lens and still have a significant zoom range, would occasionally flipping on a
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I've got no qualms about letting quotes get out of hand

I've owned essentially every EF and RF lens from the the EF 200 F2 to the RF 1200 F8. My main hobby is wildlife photography.

In general I don't find zooms very useful. I much prefer the switchable TC.

the EF 200-400 weighs 8lbs which for me (5'10" 200lbs) is handholdable for the majority of the time

if they were to make a 200-500 f4 without a TC, but reduce the weight, size, and balance I think it could certainly appeal to aging photographers who can't maneuver the big whites as well these days. I think based on cost (EF 200-400 for $4500 vs RF 200-500 for $11K) I would still pick the EF.

in testing with the EF 600 MK I from 1999 and then RF 600 from 2021 I cannot reliably tell the difference in IQ, bokeh, distortion etc. The only difference I see is weight and AF. I suspect that would hold true for an EF 200-400 vs RF 200-500 as well.

I think my dream lens would be the rumored 200-500 f4 w/ TC, especially if they could get it between the 5-7lb range.

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nmerc_photos wrote:
I agree, the more I learn about the lens the more I see the appeal.

But in my world, a static 300 w/ 1.4x is far more valuable than a 100-300 without a TC. especially when the rumored price was more in line with expectations between $5k - $7k

It's surprising to me that these manufacturers don't put a 1.4x TC in every single prime above $5K. I don't understand the downfall.

It's the easiest way to add flexibility to a lens, and anyone I've ever talked to would happily pay the premium for it

the TC built in is less about swapping
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IMO it really depends on the situations you most often experience. A TC implies that the lens often isn't long enough and you're reach limited. In this case a prime with internal TC would make sense. Canon went with the zoom design to address the opposite for situations where 300 (or 420 with 1.4x TC) is just right, but the photographer frequently also requires a wider field of view for closer action. This is pretty much exactly the scenario with most sports. The field of play is clearly defined and unless restricted to an assigned spot (which can happen at larger events), the photographer is usually able to minimize reach limited situations by changing position. What can't be controlled easily is how quickly action approaches the photographer that would make a prime lens too long.

IOW, the compromises of this design unfortunately don't weigh in your favor. But will for other applications.

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The RF 100-300mm f2.8 autofocus design tells me all Super Telephoto lenses from Canon going forward will be zooms. Canon can easily makes a 70-200mm f2.0 version of the 100-300mm 2.8 that is 10 inches long or 3 inches shorter than this lens at 5 pounds or less.

I would say to expect in the near future:
70-200mm f2.0 at 5.2 pounds
150-400mm f2.8 at 8.5 pounds
200-600mm f.4.0 at 9 pounds


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robert_in_ca wrote:
Everything you pointed out is how I felt when I heard Nikon was going to offer telephoto lenses with built in teleconverters. After shooting with Canon for close to 30 years I made the move early last year when I was able to get the Z 400mm 2.8 with the built in TC.

I sold my R3, R5 and all my RF L series glass (16-35mm 2.8, 50mm 1.2, 28-70mm 2.0, 100-500mm and 400mm 2.8) and I haven’t looked back. I really loved the ergonomics and weight of the R3 but after spending 7 weeks shooting in South Africa with
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Nikon really has a compelling offering for the wildlife shooter with the 400/600mm lenses with built-in 1.4x converter. They saw their chance with the switch to Z mount, and took it.
At one stage I was positive that Canon would also innovate in this area to promote their EF system, since they were also coming from behind like Nikon and had to reckon with Sony's lead.
I mean, I knew Sony was not going to add much if anything to their (very good) classic 400 and 600 lenses, but Canon already had their very advanced DO technology. I used the 400DOII for a year and it was a stellar lens. They have a quite old 500mm f4 lens so I expected a RF500mm lens first.

At one point their were rumors about a coming RF500mm f4.5DOII, but that was years ago already, and things have seemed to stagnate considerably.
I don't know what is in the works at Canon, but their very expensive 100-300mm lens seems to point towards favoring traditional (professional) strongholds like sports/wedding/events/news coverage etc.
I think you made the right choice with Nikon.



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