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Archive 2022 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lan...

  
 
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p.4 #1 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


I would like first dibs on analyzing the field curvature in these photos

I saw these, and as usual they are not overly helpful. Still though, they do look nice, and better than most of the voigtlander sample images.



Oct 15, 2022 at 11:58 AM
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p.4 #2 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


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Just one minor point: The Leica Elmar-M 24mm f/3.8 ASPH is, indeed, quite spectacularly good, but, sadly, it is no longer “current.” Leica is not producing 24mm M lenses, at this time.

I only recently discovered this Elmar-M 24mm f/3.8 ASPH lens, finding a pristine pre-owned sample, and was so impressed that I searched for, and found, another one, similarly well-preserved, and bought it, too, as a hedge against mishaps and loss, as the ending production will make future acquisition more difficult. (The only true insurance “policy” is a spare lens.) Plus, now and then, I like to shoot with an
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The ZM has some nice advantages for landscape, like best-in-class flare resistance and nicer light stars, plus it's decently light and small. It can't keep up with the Leicas in resolution, especially mid-to-close focus, but it's hard to tell the difference on a landscape shot at f/5.6 or more.



Oct 15, 2022 at 05:58 PM
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Usually the brass versions costs $100 more than the aluminum. Since the dollar/euro are pretty much equal now, perhaps the pricing will be around U$999 (aluminum) and U$1,099 (brass).


Type I is now also listed for exactly the €999 you predicted. I think US pricing being similar is a good guess.



Oct 16, 2022 at 10:31 AM
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p.4 #4 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


This lens comes at a time where I am a little frustrated with my 35 f/1.4 nokton's back focusing. I'm even on the verge of splurging on a 35 'lux despite reading that they suffer from the same issues. Maybe I'll wait for these sample images to come out and see how this performs.


Oct 16, 2022 at 12:20 PM
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frame_00 wrote:
This lens comes at a time where I am a little frustrated with my 35 f/1.4 nokton's back focusing. I'm even on the verge of splurging on a 35 'lux despite reading that they suffer from the same issues. Maybe I'll wait for these sample images to come out and see how this performs.

Curious, does your lens aligned with rangefinder where the infinity stop is where the rf patch aligned?



Oct 17, 2022 at 05:29 AM
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p.4 #6 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


and the latest 24 f/2.8 is also an excellent lens.

What ‘latest’ 24/2.8? Do you mean the 20 year-old Elmarit?



Oct 17, 2022 at 05:57 AM
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p.4 #7 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


From what I remember there's still a couple hairs of alignment still available in the RF patch. I'll have to take it out again and check. The body is back from a fresh CLA from DAG so it can't be the RF calibration as the culprit. I've been looking into getting my nokton CLA'd just to be sure, then I'll decide what I want to do from there.


Oct 17, 2022 at 08:21 AM
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p.4 #8 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


My wish (till one week ago) was a refresh of the Ultron 1.7/35 VM in a new housing.
It was my all time favorite 35mm lens with M-Mount, but I didn't like the knurled focus ring's ergonomics.

I hope the new Nokton makes my dreams come through ...



Oct 17, 2022 at 09:52 AM
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p.4 #9 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


EVIL_guy wrote:
My wish (till one week ago) was a refresh of the Ultron 1.7/35 VM in a new housing.
It was my all time favorite 35mm lens with M-Mount, but I didn't like the knurled focus ring's ergonomics.

I hope the new Nokton makes my dreams come through ...


Same here. I've owned the CV 35/1.7 Ultron for many years and didn't think the new CV 35/2 Ultron was a replacement for it. Hopefully the new 35/1.5 Nokton will do the trick. It will be impressive if it does since it's so much smaller.



Oct 17, 2022 at 10:32 AM
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frame_00 wrote:
This lens comes at a time where I am a little frustrated with my 35 f/1.4 nokton's back focusing. I'm even on the verge of splurging on a 35 'lux despite reading that they suffer from the same issues. Maybe I'll wait for these sample images to come out and see how this performs.


My VM35/1.7 back focuses a fair amount (when RF focused - I'm not referring to focus shift). I just intentionally front focus the required amount, which was determined by repeating the sequence of doing a test shot, checking the display for mis-focus, tweaking the focus and checking again, until it generally worked. Alternatively, one can focus with live view, see how far off the RF alignment is, then use that specific amount of misalignment as your guide when RF focusing. Of course it's not ideal but for me service options for the VM are a PITA and I'm not inclined to try shimming it. But I don't use the VM wide open for the majority of use cases. If that's how you use the 35/1.4, then proper RF alignment makes things a lot easier.



Oct 17, 2022 at 01:03 PM
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p.4 #11 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


Do we know when in November this is being released? Or which half of the month?


Oct 17, 2022 at 01:45 PM
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My VM35/1.7 back focuses a fair amount (when RF focused - I'm not referring to focus shift). I just intentionally front focus the required amount, which was determined by repeating the sequence of doing a test shot, checking the display for mis-focus, tweaking the focus and checking again, until it generally worked. Alternatively, one can focus with live view, see how far off the RF alignment is, then use that specific amount of misalignment as your guide when RF focusing. Of course it's not ideal but for me service options for the VM are a PITA and I'm not inclined
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Yeah only thing is I don't have a digital M nor do I know anyone who does to be able to determine this. I don't feel like burning a bunch of rolls with test shots in order to figure it out let alone remember the appropriate focus adjustment in the moment after I've figured it out.



Oct 17, 2022 at 02:42 PM
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nehemiahphoto wrote:
I am hoping we get an updated 75/2 (edited) CV lens.


That would be great—especially with some of this miniaturization magic they’ve been utilizing of late.



Oct 17, 2022 at 04:01 PM
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p.4 #14 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


nehemiahphoto wrote:
Do we know when in November this is being released? Or which half of the month?


There's nothing announced about the specific dates or which part of the month yet from Cosina, but since they have 2 new releases for November (VM 35/1.5 and Z-mount 65/2), I think they will again pick 2 different release dates that are at least 1 week apart as usual. Don't know yet which of the releases will come out first but I hope it's the 35/1.5. I suppose they will announce the specific dates before the end of October.

Their October releases were placed on 4th (Z 35/2 APS-C) and 26th (Z 40/1.2 FF).



Oct 17, 2022 at 08:51 PM
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Juha Kannisto wrote:
There's nothing announced about the specific dates or which part of the month yet from Cosina, but since they have 2 new releases for November (VM 35/1.5 and Z-mount 65/2), I think they will again pick 2 different release dates that are at least 1 week apart as usual. Don't know yet which of the releases will come out first but I hope it's the 35/1.5. I suppose they will announce the specific dates before the end of October.

Their October releases were placed on 4th (Z 35/2 APS-C) and 26th (Z 40/1.2 FF).


Thanks Juha--you're always helpful.



Oct 17, 2022 at 09:24 PM
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p.4 #16 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


So does the consensus seem like it will probably be a focus-shifty lens like the prior 35mm f/1.4s?


Oct 18, 2022 at 10:16 AM
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p.4 #17 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


daviddestella wrote:
So does the consensus seem like it will probably be a focus-shifty lens like the prior 35mm f/1.4s?


Given the optical formula looks very much like to 35 1.2iii according to Fred, I think the focusing shift will be negligible and similar on film or digital I hope.



Oct 18, 2022 at 10:27 AM
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p.4 #18 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


The Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Type II is made of brass but it's 96 grams heavier than the Type I aluminum version. Aside from the material used, I don't see any difference between them. This is not the case with the CV 21mm f/3.5 and CV 28/2 II lenses where the Type I has a different style.

Which one are you guys getting? CV 35/1.5 Nokton Type I or II ? I'm leaning towards type II as it matches my CV 28/2 II and the extra weight may improve stabilization. I mean, 284 grams is still light for a modern 35/1.5 lens. In comparison the Leica 35/1.4 FLE is 320 grams and it's not even brass...



Oct 18, 2022 at 11:15 AM
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The Voigtlander 35mm f/1.5 Nokton Type II is made of brass but it's 96 grams heavier than the Type I aluminum version. Aside from the material used, I don't see any difference between them. This is not the case with the CV 21mm f/3.5 and CV 28/2 II lenses where the Type I has a different style.

Which one are you guys getting? CV 35/1.5 Nokton Type I or II ? I'm leaning towards type II as it matches my CV 28/2 II and the extra weight may improve stabilization. I mean, 284 grams is still light for a modern
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I am getting the Type I, both the light weight and the cheaper price although not major factors, pull me to the Type I. I like my CV 35 f/1.7 a lot, but the smaller size, faster aperture, and much better ergonomics make this an upgrade I can't really pass up.



Oct 18, 2022 at 11:56 AM
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p.4 #20 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


I'd prefer the lighter one too!

Beside a Leica M, it will be interesting to see the performance on the thick filter stack Sony.
We'll see ...



Oct 18, 2022 at 12:21 PM
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