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p.17 #1Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


OK, saving up for the new FLE 😬

Fred Miranda wrote:
nehemiahphoto wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
nehemiahphoto wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
BastianK wroteI think the blooming aroung those christmas tree lights is mostly SA.

With the triangle like defocused light points in the corners I think it is mostly Coma,
but astigmatism can play a role here, too. These two aberrations are generally hard to separate.
But in your picture with the scale on the left it sure looks like there is a noticable amount of astigmatism, too.

Especially on lenses with high vignetting I always found city lights to be a much bigger problem
in regards to Coma than stars though.
These lenses with 3-4 EV vignetting in the corners, stars in the corners are so dark, the coma doesn't really become that obvious.
It's definitely SA. If we get the 35/1.2 III and stop it down to f/1.5, we'd have a very similar look. I think the glow is pretty in the sample images though.
Maybe I am very mistaken, but this lens has a much more crisp feel--the SA is very minor, and much less than the 35/40/50 1.2 I've shot. And at all distances. Below are crops from a modded a7--I took a series at 1.5, f2 and 2.8. One with dark subjects, and one with brights that SA shows up on more in my experience a bit.

Then I included 3 actual photos, at different distances, all WO. You'll see there's very very minimal SA. Now that you have your review copy, I'll be curious to see what you think. If it is SA, I am confused why I see so little on axis, but the affect is very noticeable with OOF lights. What Bastian said makes sense more to me.
It's not the same as shooting with the CV 35/1.2 III wide open which would yield even stronger SA. The spherical aberration is better corrected on the new f/1.5 lens but it depends heavily on distance. The closer the more SA.
I've tested it side by side to the Leica 35/1.4 FLE and the Voigtlander is noticeably softer at closer distance. All this is expected though.
Yes, that's why I included different distances as I know that the distance can vary the SA, though from .7 to about 20 feet (and I assume infinite, I don't see any change) I am sure at absolute MFD I would see increased SA. I am curious to see your review and findings. And still curious about the affect!

Are you saying you tested the new 1.5, or the 35/1.2iii against the Lux FLE? I found the 35/1.2iii to have much more than this lens throughout the range.
My observations are based on this thread's samples so far. I have not yet tested the lens on the M body.
I did compare the CV 35/1.5 to the Leica 35/1.4 FLE briefly on the Sony. The Leica is sharper wide open (away from center) and the Voigtlander has smoother rendering + narrower field of view.

Here is a sample:




Nov 30, 2022 at 12:09 AM
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p.17 #2Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2




weezintrumpete wrote:
A few more from today on my M8.

PS how good is the color out of the M8? I'm blown away. Was taking these photos to have samples from the camera when I went to sell it, but these are making me think twice...


Yes, while it’s a crop sensor, the output is wonderful. Colors are good and the bokeh is nice.



Nov 30, 2022 at 02:06 AM
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p.17 #3Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


weezintrumpete wrote:
A few more from today on my M8.

https://i.imgur.com/YTPOCgn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fpt6Vl7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cr3NwPq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/p4RtPPc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xk0UiZk.jpg

PS how good is the color out of the M8? I'm blown away. Was taking these photos to have samples from the camera when I went to sell it, but these are making me think twice...


Excellent colours! Couldn't help but notice you live in the Sunset district. Lucky! Love SF, even though areas in it are going through tough times.



Nov 30, 2022 at 11:59 AM
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p.17 #4Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


Desmolicious wrote:
weezintrumpete wroteA few more from today on my M8.

https://i.imgur.com/YTPOCgn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fpt6Vl7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cr3NwPq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/p4RtPPc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xk0UiZk.jpg

PS how good is the color out of the M8? I'm blown away. Was taking these photos to have samples from the camera when I went to sell it, but these are making me think twice...
Excellent colours! Couldn't help but notice you live in the Sunset district. Lucky! Love SF, even though areas in it are going through tough times.


Thanks! And yeah, Sunset district. I love it here (and in SF in general), but agree there are some problems




Nov 30, 2022 at 12:34 PM
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p.17 #5Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


Could anyone testing bokeh include some comparisons at f/1.5 and f/2.8? With fast 28-50mm lenses, it seems almost everything has bright ring bokeh at max aperture, and stopping down two stops smoothes everything out, assuming the aperture blades are rounded. The only real exceptions I've seen are the 35mm f/1.4 Distagon ZM and 50mm f/1.4 Summilux ASPH.


Nov 30, 2022 at 10:59 PM
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p.17 #6Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


Just got an email from the Australian distributor, late December early Jan before we see it....That sucks


Dec 01, 2022 at 01:24 AM
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p.17 #7Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


My local reseller in Paris had several, type II black & silver as well as type I.
Because I had no news from the german reseller I ordered (see above), I bought one.

And of course, I just got the email about the other one being shipped.
I can return it of course but if someone preferably in the European Union wants a 35/1.5 Type I brand new, never opened in the next few days, he can contact me.



Dec 01, 2022 at 08:09 AM
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p.17 #8Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


I found one and should receive it before my vacation over Christmas. Will try and take some useful shots with it. Can also compare to the ZM distagon.


Dec 02, 2022 at 04:02 AM
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p.17 #9Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


thrice wrote:
I found one and should receive it before my vacation over Christmas. Will try and take some useful shots with it. Can also compare to the ZM distagon.


I’d really like to see this—a rendering comp at mid distance WO and at f2.



Dec 02, 2022 at 02:59 PM
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p.17 #10Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2


thrice wrote:
I found one and should receive it before my vacation over Christmas. Will try and take some useful shots with it. Can also compare to the ZM distagon.


I would also really like to see this comparison. I love the overall performance of the ZM Distagon, but don't use it as often as some other 35's because of its size. Unfortunately, as in most areas, everything includes compromises but some lenses, such as the 50 Lux ASPH, seem to have fewer compromises in areas that are important to me. If the CV 35/1.5 has rendering that I like, it might be 'the one' 35mm lens.



Dec 03, 2022 at 02:07 PM





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