p.13 #1 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
Thanks everybody!
Some more samples taken today with my A7C and CV 35/1.5 at Arisugawa-no-miya Memorial Park and on a walk between Ebisu and Roppongi Hills. Today I used CV close focus adapter II to get some closer shots than 0.5m. At very close range via helicoid adapter it may be best to stop down to f2 or so to get some more DOF and sharpness.
Most of today's shots were again at f5.6 and f1.5 or in some cases f2, a few in lower light were around f4 or f2.8 or so.
This time the shots were exported from Raw via C1 Pro 22 using A7C default settings (ICC Profile: Sony A7C ProStandard and Curve: Auto) but with all noise reduction turned off. I adjusted exposure or highlights on just a couple of shots that were not exposed perfectly in-camera but otherwise everything was exported without any modifications.
p.13 #2 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
Great photos Juha, thanks.
This looks like a pretty good lens. I would consider it as my 40/1.2 successor, but need to wait a year or two to get the price down, I may hunt for a used one in the future.
p.13 #3 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
Really appreciate the examples provided, they look great.
Definitely seems worthy of trying out myself, so I put in my order for the lighter matte black version last night! Hoping it works well enough for me to put the savings towards a 50mm Summilux in the future
p.13 #5 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
For Voigtlander, I always order from CameraQuest, price is the same but he ships overnight, plus great service. At some point Il'll be ordering this lens as well, it is looking to be a very nice, small and fast 35.
p.13 #7 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
Yeah, for CV I buy from Cameraquest. The last CV lens I bought from them was the 40 2.8 M, delivered over night, whereas at the time B&H had no idea when they would have it in stock.
p.13 #8 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
I wish Stephen would ship Voigtlander overseas still, but I know Voigtlander restrict their dealers so they can avoid price competition. Years ago when Stephen could still ship overseas I bought my 50/2.5 and 35/1.2 from him with excellent service.
p.13 #11 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
I orded mine yesterday, I will post pictures here. Can't wait to use it with the M11. I still love my 35 1.2 III but the 1.5 seems to be more compact and better controlled CA.
p.13 #12 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
Juha Kannisto wrote:
Thanks! You mean from the front? I took a couple of more pics, also including a couple of size comparison shots showing 28/2 II, 50/1.5 Nokton II, 90/2.8 VM next to this 35/1.5. 35/1.5 and 50/1.5 look very similar in length and overall volume and the length of 28/2 II is almost identical to 35/1.5 as well.
One thing I don’t like about CV is their inconsistency in design. Looks like the finish of the aluminium 35mm is similar to the 50mm and 90mm, but the 28mm finish is glossy like the brass version. It’s kind of hard to buy a matching set… Not the end of the world but I would really prefer matching design in terms of ergonomic layout (aperture and focus rings), color/finish, filter size..
p.13 #13 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
fjablo wrote:
One thing I don’t like about CV is their inconsistency in design. Looks like the finish of the aluminium 35mm is similar to the 50mm and 90mm, but the 28mm finish is glossy like the brass version. It’s kind of hard to buy a matching set… Not the end of the world but I would really prefer matching design in terms of ergonomic layout (aperture and focus rings), color/finish, filter size..
I agree and find no good reason for this. But because they are very good, well-built and much cheaper than Leica lenses, I still buy them.
p.13 #14 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
Juha Kannisto wrote:
Thanks everybody!
Some more samples taken today with my A7C and CV 35/1.5 at Arisugawa-no-miya Memorial Park and on a walk between Ebisu and Roppongi Hills. Today I used CV close focus adapter II to get some closer shots than 0.5m. At very close range via helicoid adapter it may be best to stop down to f2 or so to get some more DOF and sharpness.
Most of today's shots were again at f5.6 and f1.5 or in some cases f2, a few in lower light were around f4 or f2.8 or so.
This time the shots were exported from Raw via C1 Pro 22 using A7C default settings (ICC Profile: Sony A7C ProStandard and Curve: Auto) but with all noise reduction turned off. I adjusted exposure or highlights on just a couple of shots that were not exposed perfectly in-camera but otherwise everything was exported without any modifications....Show more →
Thanks for sharing these!
Looks like they followed the design principles of the 50mm 1.5 II and 28mm 2.0:
Compact, great sharpness and flare resistance, high vignetting/swirly bokeh.
Not a surprise and all sensible design choices imho.
p.13 #15 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
Hi Juha,
I really like the rendering of the image below - I hope you don't mind that I posted it here directly. Do you recall what aperture you shot this at? Based on the edges of the bokeh balls there are faint signs the lens was stopped down a bit. I just like the amount of softness of the flower petals and the way the background rendered. IMO very complementary to the subject content and overall scene.
p.13 #16 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
I received my copy today and I've tested it a bit.
Because my Leica M10-R went for repair, I will be testing it on my Sony A74 for the next few days. I should get a Leica M loan next week though.
So far, I can tell for sure that the mid-field and corners look soft when shooting wide open. This is likely due to the thicker Sony sensor, affecting field curvature and astigmatism. This lens should perform optimally on a M body.
So, my first impression on the Sony is that the CV 35/1.5 is sharp wide open at center and offers smooth rendering with more SA at close distance. The CV 35/1.2 III stopped down a little, behaves similarly. Even the buttery smooth rendering is similar. I'm not surprised by this since their optical designs are very similar.
I see axial CA when shooting wide open and also ample optical vignetting.
The good news for Sony shooters is that when stopped down to f/8, the CV 35/1.5 delivers as a landscape lens. Sharp from center to the very edges.
p.13 #17 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
rscheffler wrote:
Hi Juha,
I really like the rendering of the image below - I hope you don't mind that I posted it here directly. Do you recall what aperture you shot this at? Based on the edges of the bokeh balls there are faint signs the lens was stopped down a bit. I just like the amount of softness of the flower petals and the way the background rendered. IMO very complementary to the subject content and overall scene.
Thanks! I don't mind at all. It was also my favorite from the flower close-up shots on that day. I was alternating between f1.5 and f2 while shooting those flowers and I went back to my original shots to try to figure out whether this one was wide open or at f2. I found some shots from the same scene that were having higher shutter speed and a bit less sharpness on the flower so this particular one (870) must have been at f2. I had almost the same shot taken at f1.5 as well so I copied both in this Album for reference (870 is at f2 and 875 at f1.5):
p.13 #18 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
Fred Miranda wrote:
I received my copy today and I've tested it a bit.
Because my Leica M10-R went for repair, I will be testing it on my Sony A74 for the next few days. I should get a Leica M loan next week though.
So far, I can tell for sure that the mid-field and corners look soft when shooting wide open. This is likely due to the thicker Sony sensor, affecting field curvature and astigmatism. This lens should perform optimally on a M body.
So, my first impression on the Sony is that the CV 35/1.5 is sharp wide open at center and offers smooth rendering with more SA at close distance. The CV 35/1.2 III stopped down a little, behaves similarly. Even the buttery smooth rendering is similar. I'm not surprised by this since their optical designs are very similar.
I see axial CA when shooting wide open and also ample optical vignetting.
The good news for Sony shooters is that when stopped down to f/8, the CV 35/1.5 delivers as a landscape lens. Sharp from center to the very edges....Show more →
Disappointing but typical. Mine was supposed to get here today, but didn’t. Now I’ll have to wait till Monday.
Some initial thoughts:
-I absolutely love the size and design of this thing; it's pretty much the exact profile of the 35 Summicron ASPH.
-I couldn't be happier with the focus tab/ring. Very smooth and very light, just like a good copy of a Leica 28 or 35 Summicron. A dream rangefinder experience.
-It's somewhat hard for me to judge exactly how good the sharpness is, because (1) I just moved from the M10 to the M10-R which changes how lens performance appears, and (2) I don't have any 35mm lenses to do side-by-side tests, such as the 35 Summilux FLE. I hope Fred can do side-by-side tests with this lens and the Summilux FLE.
-It does seem like perfectly usable performance across the frame at f/1.5, with noticeable improvement at f/2.8. By my memory, it feels like pretty similar performance to the 35 Summilux FLE. I'll have to use it more to get a better sense of how good the sharpness is.
-Definitely some more spherical aberration and noticeable focus shift at 0.7m and closer. Unclear to me if this is worse or the same as the 35 Summilux FLE, but it's enough that focusing with the rangefinder at close distances at f/2.8 will require extra thought.
-Distortion is fine, and vignetting doesn't seem excessive even uncoded.
-I won't be able to get a sense of how significant chromatic aberrations are, and how the rendering looks, without some more real world use.
Overall very happy with this lens so far for $900+tax!
p.13 #20 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
Here you all go--this is on a Sony stock sensor. For reference, I set up a tripod about 8 feet away from a bookshelf. Mounted a Sigma 35i which is good across the frame WO. Then the new CV 35/1.5 @ f2 with the focus on the center. Then the CV 35/1.5 @ f2 with the focus on the edge. Even at this distance, you can see the Sigma is better across the frame, and when we change the focus point on CV 35/1.5, we change sharpness, trading the better edge and better midframe for worse center, I am assuming FC from the sensor stack. I am going to mount the CV 35/1.5 on a modded sensor tomorrow I think.
Size and ergo on the CV are lovely though.
And of course, first photo with the lens. Even in horrible yellow low light, the lens has nice pop.
