There are some (see my point at the bottom) reviews if you look hard enough, they are of varying lengths and depth and also not necessarily the most up-to-date firmware/versions. But there's enough to gauge whether it's of interest. If you need to ask these many questions about the Pixii, the reality is that it's not for you. It's for people that are early adopters, probably with existing M bodies, with disposable income, simply put.
There's a reason there aren't as many reviews as a $50 USD camera... you compared essentially a niche luxury product against an affordable novelty consumer film camera. On top of that, I'm sure not everybody who reviewed the Ektar H35 paid for their camera lol.
Desmolicious wrote:
I don't think so. I actually want to read reviews of the Pixii, and not by its brand ambassadors who basically say ignore the issues, use it to its strengths. Which is ok I guess, that is how I used to use my Leica M9. But that was 12 years ago.
intangiblethin wrote:
There are some (see my point at the bottom) reviews if you look hard enough, they are of varying lengths and depth and also not necessarily the most up-to-date firmware/versions. But there's enough to gauge whether it's of interest. If you need to ask these many questions about the Pixii, the reality is that it's not for you. It's for people that are early adopters, probably with existing M bodies, with disposable income, simply put.
There's a reason there aren't as many reviews as a $50 USD camera... you compared essentially a niche luxury product against an affordable novelty consumer film camera. On top of that, I'm sure not everybody who reviewed the Ektar H35 paid for their camera lol.
Three old reviews sent to websites that have been linked to on this thread already. The reddit site has two comments from actual owners, one who compares to his Epson RD1 and gives us maybe one sentence, the other who says "Think M8. What else do you want to know?"
It doesn't matter that the $50 Kodak is $50. It's out and immediately it got reviewed all over the place. Including by me twice! And I even forked out the $50! Point is, the Pixii has been out for over a year now and nothing.
FYI I don't visit rangefinderforum anymore after disagreements with the owner. But that's another story.
intangiblethin wrote:
It's for people that are early adopters, probably with existing M bodies, with disposable income, simply put.
Of all the members participating in this thread, the above sentence would seem to well summarize Huss (Desmolicious), though as a new member here, I guess you may not know that.
That's not to say Huss will blindly adopt something like the Pixii just because it's new... And it's not even new any more, yet there is a serious lack of 'real world' information about it to inspire and build confidence in it as a viable product.
There’s a really easy solution here, just move onto the other companies making brand-new digital M-mount cameras… let me know how you get on with that one…
The company continues to ship firmware updates with people buying them however fast/slow. You guys aren’t the intended demographic and that’s also ok because you hold different standards to your product.
I will never own a Pixii in its current iteration because I have no interest in a crop body M-mount camera but I 100% respect a company taking a serious attempt at releasing something new.
If there wasn’t a mediocre M8 there wouldn’t be a 9, 10, 11 and so far. Everybody starts somewhere.
rscheffler wrote: Of all the members participating in this thread, the above sentence would seem to well summarize Huss (Desmolicious), though as a new member here, I guess you may not know that.
That's not to say Huss will blindly adopt something like the Pixii just because it's new... And it's not even new any more, yet there is a serious lack of 'real world' information about it to inspire and build confidence in it as a viable product.
I think there is some misunderstanding here. At least for me, I highly applaud what Pixii is doing, that they have actually shipped a digital rangefinder, as promised, and have actually (mostly) improved on their first version.
Yet, as with Huss, I wonder where recent real user reviews are. Unfortunately for me, I'd rather spend my 'spare' $3k on other more pressing things. But if someone wants to send me a current version Pixii, I'll use it and review it.
intangiblethin wrote:
... You guys aren’t the intended demographic and that’s also ok because you hold different standards to your product...
Who is the intended demographic if not us This is a $3000 manual focus enthusiast camera.
Believe me I have bought a whole bunch of poop in the past, and reviewed it honestly so others can learn from my mistakes. Or at least have the pleasure in poking fun at me.
I think it's amazing the Pixii exists at all, but my request/question is really simple. How come no actual buyers are willing to comment on their experiences? It's as simple as that!
You can google pretty much any product on the planet, and read dozens of user reviews. Pixii? Apart from the brand ambassadors with youtube channels? Nothing.
I think the monochrome mode has the potential to be interesting, considering it’s still a fair bit less expensive than the Leica 246, but it does behave in really the opposite way. Based on the way they explained it, it interpolates back from the Bayer array produced image to a black and white raw, essentially filling in the information with mathematical guesses, it’s not a true monochrom sensor, but it should in theory be more interesting than a Bayer image desaturated.
Where I’m from (Australia) an M246 in excellent condition would actually be cheaper than a Pixii. Both cost about USD3000 but shipping and customs charges would add at least another USD400 to the cost of the Pixii. I’d be surprised if the M246 is cheaper in Australia than elsewhere in the world.
To be fair to the Pixii, a used camera is always going to be heavily discounted.
I think it's for someone who does not want to buy used, sees this as a cheap new M mount camera, likes the interface and design, and perhaps likes the connectivity. Maybe also enjoys the uniqueness of it.
Desmolicious wrote:
To be fair to the Pixii, a used camera is always going to be heavily discounted.
I think it's for someone who does not want to buy used, sees this as a cheap new M mount camera, likes the interface and design, and perhaps likes the connectivity. Maybe also enjoys the uniqueness of it.
Sure. I was simply responding to the (questionable) assertion that a Pixii was “still a fair bit less expensive than the Leica M246”.
Most recent user comment that I could find from 4 months ago:
I have one. Was going to post about it. Its fun and has decent output up to iso 6400.
Battery life is abysmal. Mine may freeze 1-2 times a day, you have to pull the battery out. I dont use any of the connected features. Download speed from the camera over usb is less than quick.
They send you pictures as it’s being built. David responded directly to some of my questions. I hope that future upgrades will be offered.
The lack of long-term ownership feedback is what kept me from pulling the trigger in the cart. The typ 246 will always be on my radar, but I keep missing out on the rare deals that pop up here or anywhere. I still want a native M-mount range finder for monochrome use only, but I'm torn with their APS-C. Not sure if owning the CL again would be a better solution or wait until a late model Pixxi pops up for sale, or keep saving for the typ 246.
Well, it would be interesting of someone would actually review the Pixii's monochrome mode to determine if it has any actual advantage over channel mixing an RGB image. Then you'd be better informed whether it would be a worthwhile purchase for B&W use. My opinion is if you want the rangefinder experience and want to shoot B&W, there are a lot more options available from Leica. Maybe you have to compromise at first with a used color model before you find a Monochrom.
Another knock against the Pixii in your situation, assuming you're new to rangefinders and you start with the Pixii, is you'll still be left wondering what it's like to use a Leica in comparison. An itch you'll eventually scratch.
Desmolicious wrote:
To be fair to the Pixii, a used camera is always going to be heavily discounted.
I think it's for someone who does not want to buy used, sees this as a cheap new M mount camera, likes the interface and design, and perhaps likes the connectivity. Maybe also enjoys the uniqueness of it.
a new pixii is more than a used M240/262 and the same as a M246. My M246 was £3K, roughly what a pixii 64Gb costs plus taxes etc. I can sell my 246 now and still get the 3k I paid for it. The prices have been static for 1.5 year now.
I’ll take a wild guess that a used pixii will get 3/4 at best in the used market even if you sell it a day after getting it. So ownership of a Leica will be a lot cheaper when the time comes to sell and get another one than this.
It is a lot of money for APSC uniqueness…I mean great they are doing it but I think they are 5 years too late. Also puts in perspective Leica pricing. Here’s another niche player and they’re already half way to Leica prices with a half size sensor and a half finished product.
I'm afraid you're right. I get my color fix with the SL. Like many, started with the X-Pros', and always wanted a range finder but mainly for BW. However, I never jived with the Fuji film simulations.
I'll be honest, I would be more inclined buying the Pixii now if it was priced at or under $2K for the 32GB storage model. This is purely based on the pricing effect from the X-Pro2/3 that I've owned. Hell, I've contemplated on a Leica M or CL/Minolta film camera for the monochrome itch.
It took me 8 years to early last year add an M10-P to my M9, so in 7 years I will probably be ready for an M12-P but I won't be able to afford one anymore...
That is where a (by then hopefully a full frame) Pixii comes in...
Of all the members participating in this thread, the above sentence would seem to well summarize Huss (Desmolicious), though as a new member here, I guess you may not know that. 
This is a $3000 manual focus enthusiast camera.
