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Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread

  
 
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p.12 #1 · Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread


OwlsEyes wrote:
You are welcome Lance.
I found that the 200-400 was a great lens on my Z6II . The lens focused accurately through its range and did better at longer distances. I, however, found it to be more subject to the negative impact of atmospheric distortion than other long lenses I wonder how it would perform w the Z9’s af “engine.” Hmmm?


As I suspected regarding the 200-400. A friend (4mpx here at FM) has the 200-400 and obtained excellent results long and short distance. You make a good point about atmospheric distortion also. I had noticed this with my Z7II + 500 pf from time to time.



Jan 07, 2022 at 09:05 PM
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MikeInPa wrote:
I read somewhere that some genius was proclaiming that the 100-400 is too short to take bird pictures. I have to disagree, what do you think?



These are exquisite! They set the bar high indeed. Detail, colours and composition are very inspiring.

Patrick





Jan 07, 2022 at 09:45 PM
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MikeInPa wrote:
I read somewhere that some genius was proclaiming that the 100-400 is too short to take bird pictures. I have to disagree, what do you think?



I was told the same by some 'pro' and yet you couldn't capture images like these with a prime lens. Getting close to the subject is half the fun. Would love to see how the Z9/100-400 combo works in this same scenario.






































Jan 07, 2022 at 10:36 PM
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duncang wrote:
I was told the same by some 'pro' and yet you couldn't capture images like these with a prime lens. Getting close to the subject is half the fun. Would love to see how the Z9/100-400 combo works in this same scenario.

https://duncangroenewald.com/img/wildlife/birds/welcome-swallow/DAG02658_DxO.jpg

https://duncangroenewald.com/img/wildlife/birds/welcome-swallow/DAG02758_DxO.jpg

https://duncangroenewald.com/img/wildlife/birds/welcome-swallow/DAG02760_DxO.jpg

https://duncangroenewald.com/img/wildlife/birds/welcome-swallow/DAG03790_DxO.jpg

https://duncangroenewald.com/img/wildlife/birds/welcome-swallow/DAG03791_DxO.jpg

https://duncangroenewald.com/img/wildlife/birds/welcome-swallow/DAG03792_DxO.jpg


These are amazing BIF shots, Duncan.



Jan 08, 2022 at 01:01 AM
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Incredible! These little guys are incredibly hard to catch. The shots over water are particularly impressive. Kudos, Duncan!


Jan 08, 2022 at 01:20 AM
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p.12 #6 · Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread


Outstanding!



Jan 08, 2022 at 03:45 AM
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duncang wrote:
I was told the same by some 'pro' and yet you couldn't capture images like these with a prime lens. Getting close to the subject is half the fun. Would love to see how the Z9/100-400 combo works in this same scenario.


Awesome job!!



Jan 08, 2022 at 07:47 AM
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p.12 #8 · Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread


Guys, guys, guys and girls. These images are just AMAZING. It’s 16F (-8.8C) here in Pennsylvania and while I would love to be photographing Pelicans, Parrots, Swallows and Egrets I’m just going to have to drool over your fantastic images. Keep them coming.

I’m going out in my Arctic gear to try and photograph some Snow Buntings.

Hope it’s as good as last year.

Field Birds



Jan 08, 2022 at 07:58 AM
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p.12 #9 · Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread


Since the TCs for Z lens seem to be far better than the older AF-S TCs, is a 2.0 S used with a 70-200 f2.8 S a reasonable substitute for the 100-400? Not looking to save money, but rather keep the bag lighter.


Jan 08, 2022 at 08:09 AM
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These look like the same type of shots people in the Sony circles of this site and social media claim the Z9 can't do. Excellent shots.
duncang wrote:
I was told the same by some 'pro' and yet you couldn't capture images like these with a prime lens. Getting close to the subject is half the fun. Would love to see how the Z9/100-400 combo works in this same scenario.

https://duncangroenewald.com/img/wildlife/birds/welcome-swallow/DAG02658_DxO.jpg

https://duncangroenewald.com/img/wildlife/birds/welcome-swallow/DAG02758_DxO.jpg

https://duncangroenewald.com/img/wildlife/birds/welcome-swallow/DAG02760_DxO.jpg

https://duncangroenewald.com/img/wildlife/birds/welcome-swallow/DAG03790_DxO.jpg

https://duncangroenewald.com/img/wildlife/birds/welcome-swallow/DAG03791_DxO.jpg

https://duncangroenewald.com/img/wildlife/birds/welcome-swallow/DAG03792_DxO.jpg





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JadedWriter wrote:
These look like the same type of shots people in the Sony circles of this site and social media claim the Z9 can't do. Excellent shots.


Those were shot with A1.


Edited on Jan 08, 2022 at 09:43 AM · View previous versions



Jan 08, 2022 at 09:25 AM
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p.12 #12 · Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread


Just returned after freezing my whatsit's off in the frigid conditions and took a few shots.





Horned Lark




Jan 08, 2022 at 09:43 AM
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p.12 #13 · Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread


You’re good at spotting Sony shots!

Why someone would post A1 photos in a Nikon photo thread is beyond me.

Remember; there is a dedicated discussion thread for this lens!!

Take discussions here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1725660

JadedWriter wrote:
These look like the same type of shots people in the Sony circles of this site and social media claim the Z9 can't do. Excellent shots.





Jan 08, 2022 at 09:49 AM
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JadedWriter wrote:
These look like the same type of shots people in the Sony circles of this site and social media claim the Z9 can't do. Excellent shots.


First, those are shot on Sony, not the Z9. They demonstrate why the Sony guys have been so enthusiastic the last few years that Sony cameras with stacked sensors have been available. Fast, silent, shutterless shooting.

None of the non stacked sensor Nikon or Sony mirrorless cameras could consistently produce these results with these subjects and conditions.

Now that Nikon does have a high performance stacked sensor mirrorless camera in it's lineup I expect we will see similar images coming from the Z9. I have not seen postings by Sony users or anyone for that matter saying that the Z9 can't shoot at this level.

The point of the post is that the 100-400mm focal length is capable of these kinds of images.


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Jan 08, 2022 at 10:03 AM
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RoamingScott wrote
Why someone would post A1 photos in a Nikon photo thread is beyond me.


He was responding to questions about the limits of a Lens with a 100-400mm focal length. He shot those images with a lens of the same focal length. He referenced that, not the camera or brand which he properly avoided doing. The many supportive post regarding the images confirms that relevance. The only controversy started when someone wanted to turn the contribution into a brand thing. That backfired in a hilarious way.

The posting of the images was relevant and positive to the discussion. It was the brand post that was the problem.



Jan 08, 2022 at 10:14 AM
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p.12 #16 · Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread


Removing this as it is so far gone from the Thread topic....click for previous version if you really want to read it...

Edited on Jan 08, 2022 at 11:07 AM · View previous versions



Jan 08, 2022 at 10:15 AM
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1bwana1 wrote:
He was responding to questions about the limits of a Lens with a 100-400mm focal length. He shot those images with a lens of the same focal length. He referenced that, not the camera or brand which he properly avoided doing. The many supportive post regarding the images confirms that relevance. The only controversy started when someone wanted to turn the contribution into a brand thing. That backfired in a hilarious way.

The posting of the images was relevant and positive to the discussion. It was the brand post that was the problem.

If you're pointing to my post, I just wanted to make sure that people don't live in illusion, the images were taken by Z9/100-400s.
My impression was, that was actually happening after that post, I was a bit confused as well, how it was worded, but I downloaded image to make sure what was going on.



Jan 08, 2022 at 10:20 AM
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Stating that in his comment would've really staved off some confusion on my part.
cvrle59 wrote:
Those were shot with A1.





Jan 08, 2022 at 10:26 AM
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Oh please I poke my head in the A1 vs Z9 thread in the Sony board from time to time. I'm not the only one turning anything into a brand thing.
1bwana1 wrote:
He was responding to questions about the limits of a Lens with a 100-400mm focal length. He shot those images with a lens of the same focal length. He referenced that, not the camera or brand which he properly avoided doing. The many supportive post regarding the images confirms that relevance. The only controversy started when someone wanted to turn the contribution into a brand thing. That backfired in a hilarious way.

The posting of the images was relevant and positive to the discussion. It was the brand post that was the problem.





Jan 08, 2022 at 10:28 AM
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p.12 #20 · Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread


MikeInPa wrote:
I read somewhere that some genius was proclaiming that the 100-400 is too short to take bird pictures. I have to disagree, what do you think?


Obviously you didn't for these, excellent work!

OTOH, a lot of users are posting images here with the 1.4x at 540 -- and on the upside it seems to work well.

I have not shot serious birds since film days, so take what I say with that in mind. We'd have a 300/2.8 or 70-200/2.8 hanging on a body off a shoulder and then either the 600/4 or 800/5.6 on a stout tripod with a gimbal head -- there was no IBIS or VR in those days and we'd be lucky to get 1 or 2 keepers per 36 exposure roll on the gimbaled camera. Even so back then, getting physically close was always superior to getting optically close, and I suspect that still holds.

I still think a 600 is probably the sweet spot for serious birding on raptors, and the 800 for smaller birds. However, being able to zoom out for flocks or pairs is beneficial. As such, the 200-600 intrigues me as a viable possibility, especially so if it performs well with the 1.4X. However it appears it will not be an S line lens, or is there some hope it will be? The 100-400 is and it's quickly becoming a proven performer. So unless the 200-600 is at least equal to the 100-400+1.4X, this lens may be the winner in this category.

Interesting times for sure.




Jan 08, 2022 at 10:41 AM
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