I'm holding on of my M 10s up to the screen next to the photo in the OP and I see no difference. The thickness of the metal around the the glass and the position look to be same. We will find out for sure in time.
retrofocus wrote:
Like VW did many years ago when making cars, they started cutting production cost significantly by using the same platform/drivetrain for multiple car versions. Leica seems doing the same - using now the Q series as model and basic blueprint to make the M 11 regarding battery, no base plate etc.
This said, I don't think the M11 will therefore be cheaper though.....
It's the same battery design and mechanism but not the exact same battery, unfortunately – at least according to the rather specific rumors that have named part numbers for the new M11 battery and charger. The Q2 battery may have been too large or not shaped correctly to fit in the M11 body.
What may happen, though, is the Q3 and SL3 could adopt the M11 battery. I hope that happens provided the M11 battery is smaller but has the same or higher capacity.
Though my past experience with low resolution raw from Nikon doesn’t really work for me as the file is soft on pixel level and not too much smaller (relative to resolution reduction) compare to full raw.
highdesertmesa wrote:
It's rumored to have sensor-based resolution switching to two lower resolutions, but we'll see.
zhangyue wrote:
Though my past experience with low resolution raw from Nikon doesn’t really work for me as the file is soft on pixel level and not too much smaller (relative to resolution reduction) compare to full raw.
The Z 7 has six "quality" and three "size" settings that can be mixed. I tend to shoot Normal or Normal* and Medium. One can shoot Normal, L, M, S and Normal* L, M, S.
Given Fine, Normal and Basic in both RAW and jpg that makes for eighteen possible quality/size settings for RAW or jpg (thirty six settings total). Plus there is a straight RAW and TIFF (another six possible settings). That's with a base 64 ISO.
The battery is inserted ala Q and SL but how about the SD card? Would it have its own compartment?
I may be minority here but the current base plate never bothered me.
Fred Miranda wrote:
The battery is inserted ala Q and SL but how about the SD card. Would it have its own compartment?
I may be minority here but the current base plate never bothered me.
The Q2 has the SD card in a separate compartment on the bottom that opens with a slide-click and then a swivel down. But I don't see one of those in this photo, meaning they either moved it to the side or are using an internal SSD for storage. Or – maybe the SD slot is revealed by removing the battery.
+1
Never bother me either. I feel it is quite special actually
Fred Miranda wrote:
The battery is inserted ala Q and SL but how about the SD card? Would it have its own compartment?
I may be minority here but the current base plate never bothered me.
The base plate never bothered me either and also feel it's something unique/rangefinder character. I always have the M10 grip attached 100% so that's basically an even bigger baseplate. But some have pointed out, you can't use the camera if you don't have the baseplate and I guess some manage to somehow get separated from their camera's base plate.
I do however, like this new M11 battery access design. Reminds me of the SL2 and I find its battery access design very quick & easy. Most importantly however, I hope Leica's new M11 battery is much more powerful and longer lasting than the current M10 battery.
My guess is the SD card slot, similar to the M10 is inside the battery area too on the new M11 design.
OTOH, some type of internal storage would be very interesting. Some of the external storage devices I've used can be quite small. E.g. SanDisk Ultra Fit USB 3.1 Flash Drive. This tiny drive offers up to 512 GB storage! But can also run very hot from what I've experienced using these tiny 256 GB drives. Wonder if something like this could be implemented internally. Not sure how small some type of internal SSD technology can be but internal SSD has already been implemented in at least one camera I know of. Either way, a USB-C port on the M11 would make an internal storage approach possible.
airfrogusmc wrote:
I am also not bothered by the baseplate.
I wouldn't consider it an exclusion criteria either. But I never liked that I couldn't access my SD card nor battery when I had a tripod mount plate attached to this baseplate. Always the tripod plate had to be removed first before detaching the base plate to gain access to card and/or battery on my M 240. I got used to it, but having both accessible directly from the bottom is likely more convenient. The baseplate certainly had its purpose with Leica M film cameras, but is more a traditional optical aspect for digital M's so far.
airfrogusmc wrote:
I am also not bothered by the baseplate.
Let's just say, not really a reason to upgrade even though I think the fixed baseplate will be the main cosmetic difference between M10 and M11.
Regarding the new sensor: It has to perform better than the M10-R's sensor which already provides great DR and resolution.
More megapixels? I think we are already pushing the limits of the rangefinder with 40MP but I can see the point of using the new external high res EVF with a higher megapixel sensor. Frankly, I find 40MP to be the sweet spot and a higher MP sensor would not be a strong reason for me to upgrade from my M10-R.
For those with M10 and M10-P bodies, the M10-R may be a more sensible upgrade but Leica may still have something special up its sleeve.
retrofocus wrote:
I wouldn't consider it an exclusion criteria either. But I never liked that I couldn't access my SD card nor battery when I had a tripod mount plate attached to this baseplate. Always the tripod plate had to be removed first before detaching the base plate to gain access to card and/or battery on my M 240. I got used to it, but having both accessible directly from the bottom is likely more convenient. The baseplate certainly had its purpose with Leica M film cameras, but is more a traditional optical aspect for digital M's so far.
That’s what the RRS baseplate was for. And actually I much preferred that to potentially still not being able to access the battery if a large plate is used on the new camera.
If Leica follows normal practice they’ll release a grip that also doesn’t allow access to the battery.
