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p.33 #1 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


I'm definitely ok with the integrated grip. Should balance the 50 1.2S and 70-200 2.8S better. For anyone that doesn't like the integrated grip, I'm sure there will be another body without the integrated grip that slips in between the Z6/Z7 and Z9 that has some of the Z9 features at some point.

I'm still on the first gen Z6 and didn't bother with that grip since it lacked shutter controls in portrait orientation, have been waiting on the Z9 to upgrade the body.



Oct 25, 2021 at 08:42 AM
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p.33 #2 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


If no mistakes in conversions, the Z9 with ZTF and 500PF will weigh *less* than my D850 with grip/batteries and 500PF:



D850 with battery ...................... 1008 grams
D850 grip .................................... 280 grams
EN-EL 18B battery ...................... 201grams
500PF ......................................... 1460 grams
_________
2949 grams or 6.5 pounds

Z9 ................................................ 1020 grams
FTZ adapter ................................. 135 grams
500PF .......................................... 1460 grams
_________
2615 grams or 5.8 pounds



Oct 25, 2021 at 02:20 PM
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p.33 #3 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


Wonder if the new FTZ will be out soon? Hate to have to buy the old one then the new one!


Oct 25, 2021 at 02:42 PM
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p.33 #4 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


bs kite wrote:
If no mistakes in conversions, the Z9 with ZTF and 500PF will weigh *less* than my D850 with grip/batteries and 500PF:

D850 with battery ...................... 1008 grams
D850 grip .................................... 280 grams
EN-EL 18B battery ...................... 201grams
500PF ......................................... 1460 grams
_________
2949 grams or 6.5 pounds

Z9 ................................................ 1020 grams
FTZ adapter ................................. 135 grams
500PF .......................................... 1460 grams
_________
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Yeah and about .8lbs more then the D500 and 500PF so the difference is pretty negligible. It sits right in the middle of the D500 and D850 with the 500PF



Oct 25, 2021 at 02:45 PM
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p.33 #5 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


bs kite wrote:
If no mistakes in conversions, the Z9 with ZTF and 500PF will weigh *less* than my D850 with grip/batteries and 500PF:

Thats a mere 10% difference. Using different materials etc will have bigger impact.



Oct 25, 2021 at 02:46 PM
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p.33 #6 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


George DeCamp wrote:
Wonder if the new FTZ will be out soon? Hate to have to buy the old one then the new one!


People were mentioning in the one teaser (#3 i think) that the one shot shows the FTZ and wondered why they'd have it on. I have wondered since the video if it's actually the FTZ II



Oct 25, 2021 at 02:46 PM
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p.33 #7 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


Eric214 wrote:
People were mentioning in the one teaser (#3 i think) that the one shot shows the FTZ and wondered why they'd have it on. I have wondered since the video if it's actually the FTZ II


Ahhh that would be nice!!



Oct 25, 2021 at 02:56 PM
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p.33 #8 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


bs kite wrote:
If no mistakes in conversions, the Z9 with ZTF and 500PF will weigh *less* than my D850 with grip/batteries and 500PF:

D850 with battery ...................... 1008 grams
D850 grip .................................... 280 grams
EN-EL 18B battery ...................... 201grams
500PF ......................................... 1460 grams
_________
2949 grams or 6.5 pounds

Z9 ................................................ 1020 grams
FTZ adapter ................................. 135 grams
500PF .......................................... 1460 grams
_________
...Show more

I suspect that the 1020g for the Z9 will be without battery and cards so add 180g.




Oct 25, 2021 at 02:59 PM
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p.33 #9 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


andrewd01 wrote:
I suspect that the 1020g for the Z9 will be without battery and cards so add 180g.



yeah it is. I was taking the weight of the D500 without cards and battery as well but the EN-EL18 is heavier then the EL15 but should still be a tad less then a full pound heavier. All rumors anyway so we wait and see hopefully Thursday



Oct 25, 2021 at 03:02 PM
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p.33 #10 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


bs kite wrote:
If no mistakes in conversions, the Z9 with ZTF and 500PF will weigh *less* than my D850 with grip/batteries and 500PF:

D850 with battery ...................... 1008 grams
D850 grip .................................... 280 grams
EN-EL 18B battery ...................... 201grams
500PF ......................................... 1460 grams
_________
2949 grams or 6.5 pounds

Z9 ................................................ 1020 grams
FTZ adapter ................................. 135 grams
500PF .......................................... 1460 grams
_________
...Show more

The weight that you are listing for the Z9 is without batteries, and is around what I had hoped it would be with batteries, which is not entirely impossible given the construction of mirrorless bodies, and what is in them.

Anyhow, with the 500PF you have a kg at least to spend before the weight get's anywhere near bothersome. That is a totally different story with a f4 lens.

The Z9 is totally above my head in all honesty: the weight will comprise of hardware to enable lengthy 8k video footage and other high end stuff that I totally don't need. Most of all, all of that that sensor real estate that I will be cropping away
It should be possible to make a nice gripped aps-c sports/wildlife body at 800gr including batteries. If I were to buy a Z9, I would buy it for lack of a better, more suiting birding/wildlife option. I hope such an option comes eventually. Until then, it's the D500 for me and I might even switch to the Oly 150-400mm if not. I like that mirrorless has brought full frame to the masses, but they have overdone it. I have a Sony A7RIV, and love it for landscapes, but for birding/wildlife, I infinitely prefer crop. So for me this week is about getting the Z9 out of my head completely I guess, and look ahead.



Oct 25, 2021 at 04:11 PM
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p.33 #11 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


Nokishita just tweeted that Z9 Body, Z9 FTZII kit, FTZII and 100-400 and a f/4 standard zoom have been added to overseas dealers.


Oct 25, 2021 at 04:53 PM
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p.33 #12 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


George DeCamp wrote:
Wonder if the new FTZ will be out soon? Hate to have to buy the old one then the new one!


Nokishita just confirmed it will be announced with Z9.



Oct 25, 2021 at 04:58 PM
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p.33 #13 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


arbitrage wrote:
Nokishita just tweeted that Z9 Body, Z9 FTZII kit, FTZII and 100-400 and a f/4 standard zoom have been added to overseas dealers.


Probably 24-105.



Oct 25, 2021 at 05:02 PM
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p.33 #14 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


lukemeup wrote:
Probably 24-105.


Makes sense. Looking at the roadmap that looks to be the only option and that is typically an f/4 lens especially as it is listed as S line.



Oct 25, 2021 at 05:09 PM
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p.33 #15 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


i hope it is so i can just get the package


Oct 25, 2021 at 05:22 PM
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p.33 #16 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021




arbitrage wrote:
Nokishita just confirmed it will be announced with Z9.


Awesome thanks!!



Oct 25, 2021 at 05:29 PM
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p.33 #17 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


I ordered a Sandisk 512gb CFexpress today from B&H $489. Maybe overkill but….🤷🏻‍♂️


Oct 25, 2021 at 05:36 PM
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p.33 #18 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


George DeCamp wrote:
I ordered a Sandisk 512gb CFexpress today from B&H $489. Maybe overkill but….🤷🏻‍♂️


In preparation for the z9?




Oct 25, 2021 at 06:30 PM
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p.33 #19 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021




saaketham wrote:
In preparation for the z9?



Yes sir!



Oct 25, 2021 at 06:52 PM
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p.33 #20 · New Z9 Specs (NR) Aug 10th, 2021


ChrisMak wrote:
I currently use the 500PF and (mostly) the Sigma 500mm f4S (optionally + 1.4TC) on the D500.
Adding half a kilogram to the D500+Sigma 500mm, effectively pushes it beyond handheld shooting, which I do exclusively, certainly when the 1.4TC is on.
I realize that Nikon is making this body for the new Z super telephotolenses, but these 14.000,- lenses will not be within reach of many users, so they will have to resort to adapting the existing F mount lenses. I don't see that as a practical solution myself (even when disregarding the cost) with the hefty weight of the Z9+ftz adapter,
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This only exacerbates the lack of a 600 f/5.6 PF and heck I wouldn't mind seeing an 800 f/8. I have high hopes that one day we will see a 500 f/4 with same impressive weight savings as Sony and Canon did with the 400 and 600's. A sub 2.5kg 500 f/4 is easily achievable, but no one seems to be in any rush to release one. Heck Sony and Nikon don't even have the workhorse 300 f/2.8 on any roadmap which is a bad oversight.

Any way I will be just using the 500 PF an FTZII adapter for a while and see what the 200-600 offers eventually.



Oct 25, 2021 at 07:17 PM
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