p.27 #4 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
He didn't, he just made an opinion based on a video review. If it's true or not we will know soon enough, no harm done either way. It's not like anybody here gonna go "tomorrow" and buy this lens based on this one opinion alone.
For whatever reason you seem to be unpleasant towards people who dont agree with your point of view and not only in this thread.
p.27 #5 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
What is it with this Tamron that it exhudes such bad emotions in people ?!
Anyways, it has better CA control than the new 70-200GMII and this video is very thorough and detailed...
p.27 #6 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
chez wrote:
Take your own advice and wait for more official reviews rather than jumping the gun and judging the lens...right?
absolutely. that is exactly what I always say and have said several times during this discussion. I see no reason why to think different out of a sudden.
even if i have doubts, i hope that you have noticed the difference between my and your approach. But then again, it’s not about you and me.
p.27 #7 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
Immortal wrote:
He didn't, he just made an opinion based on a video review. If it's true or not we will know soon enough, no harm done either way. It's not like anybody here gonna go "tomorrow" and buy this lens based on this one opinion alone.
For whatever reason you seem to be unpleasant towards people who dont agree with your point of view and not only in this thread.
Umm...he jumped all over me when a review indicated AF was not that great...saying I should wait until more official reviews are out before making any statements. Just want him to know what goes around...comes around.
p.27 #8 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
zeitlos wrote:
absolutely. that is exactly what I always say and have said several times during this discussion. I see no reason why to think different out of a sudden.
even if i have doubts, i hope that you have noticed the difference between my and your approach. But then again, it’s not about you and me.
Sorry, I see no difference. I made a post based on a review indicating AF issues from a review. You made a post from a review comparing the lens to the 70-200 GM. What is the difference?
p.27 #9 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
What you say is verifiably wrong.
Anyway, let’s focus on the lens again.
chez wrote:
Umm...he jumped all over me when a review indicated AF was not that great...saying I should wait until more official reviews are out before making any statements. Just want him to know what goes around...comes around.
p.27 #11 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
j4nu wrote:
What is it with this Tamron that it exhudes such bad emotions in people ?!
Anyways, it has better CA control than the new 70-200GMII and this video is very thorough and detailed...
We will see. I am still waiting for Dustin Abbott. Ha ha but then again, I am sure its optical and technical performance won’t be a dealbreaker for a hobbyist like me.
It’s more about its handling (weight and size). Okay, and the quality of its bokeh. I was a bit skeptical in this regard when I saw the first pictures/reviews. The later ones got me more. But I hopefully will find out myself soon.
What is still not clear to me whether it will work as a travel lens for me. I have my doubts. Surely not for casual traveling. I downsized to the Leica Q for this. but again, will find out soon.
p.27 #12 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
zeitlos wrote:
We will see. I am still waiting for Dustin Abbott. Ha ha
He doesnt have the lens, neither do any of the trusted and well known reviewers in the US or Canada. Tamron is hiding this lens from actual quality reviewers. Thats why every review you have seen have been no namers with hardly any followers in other languages. They are Tamron shills. They had to make sure to get all their preorders in before giving the lens to unbiased reviewers who will tell the truth about it.
p.27 #14 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
zeitlos wrote:
First, just because something is not American or Canadian doesn‘t mean that it‘s bad or untruthful. Rather, it is an expression of chauvinism.
Thats not what I meant, but it just so happens to be all the biggest camera gear reviewers are located in North America. Jared Polin, Manny Ortiz, Tony and Chelsea Northrup etc...none of them have received this lens. Tamron is only giving it to reviewers in foreign countries with very small number of followers and who will only say positive things.
Matt Granger is the one exception and he pretty much ripped the lens and pointed out all its flaws the other reviewers being paid by Tamron wouldn't. Thats why you haven't seen it in the hands of the major camera gear reviewers. Go ahead and call it a conspiracy theory but Polin, Manny and the others all had their reviews of past Tamron lenses out 3-4 weeks before they were released. So why is Tamron not giving them this lens?
p.27 #15 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
These are unusual times in many respects. I don't think we can draw conclusions of coverup based on geographic location of reviewers. We will soon know more about the lens and get comments from the established reviewers.
Tamron is the largest lens manufacturer. They have an excellent reputation. They don't need pull any kind of cheap tricks over a single niche lens like this one.
p.27 #16 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
So you are saying that Tamron is purposely doing this in order to "trick" people (aka customers) into buying a $1900 lens before they find out it's "not good". I mean that's basically what you're saying. Realize that no lens is perfect and most lenses produced today have some set of redeeming qualities and some set of perceived flaws.
I didn't realize that Tamron had such an awful reputation, because if they didn't, they would after this.
Do you have ANY source of information this that you're basing this "theory" on, other than pure speculation on your part? Have they done this is the past? The smoking man told you this?
Note that you're not saying "I think Tamron is hiding the lens", you say "Tamron is hiding this lens". Speculation presented as fact is a dangerous thing. So cite your source of this information.
Dexter75 wrote:
He doesnt have the lens, neither do any of the trusted and well known reviewers in the US or Canada. Tamron is hiding this lens from actual quality reviewers. Thats why every review you have seen have been no namers with hardly any followers in other languages. They are Tamron shills. They had to make sure to get all their preorders in before giving the lens to unbiased reviewers who will tell the truth about it.
If they received more preorders than expected, could they be slow rolling this out from a 3rd party reviewing perspective? Is it possible they are trying to get manufacturing caught up before creating more buzz?
The above is pure speculation. And I'm properly disclosing it as such.
Dexter75 wrote:
Thats not what I meant, but it just so happens to be all the biggest camera gear reviewers are located in North America. Jared Polin, Manny Ortiz, Tony and Chelsea Northrup etc...none of them have received this lens. Tamron is only giving it to reviewers in foreign countries with very small number of followers and who will only say positive things.
Matt Granger is the one exception and he pretty much ripped the lens and pointed out all its flaws the other reviewers being paid by Tamron wouldn't. Thats why you haven't seen it in the hands of the major camera gear reviewers. Go ahead and call it a conspiracy theory but Polin, Manny and the others all had their reviews of past Tamron lenses out 3-4 weeks before they were released. So why is Tamron not giving them this lens? ...Show more →
p.27 #18 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
A bit of German dialect Wedding photographer. For me the perfect example why this lens is such an enrichment for the Sony system. She says that she always shoots with two cameras. One with a 35mm prime, one with a 85mm prime. She‘s so excited that it really works out to replace those to cameras with just a one camera one lens solution. She also says that she often (in churches etc.) misses the longer option when only having 85mm. This is very versatile. The weight is okay for her, she says. According to her, the AF during her shooting was not behaving any differently than the ones of Sony lenses. For her as a wedding photographer this lens is perfect.
Edit P.S. Just to be clear (even though it’s obvious): Of course this works as advertisement for the lens. The guy who runs the channel seems to be a dealer. But everything she says in a way goes without saying to me. Versatility (so not necessarily needing a 24-70 2.8 + 70-200 2.8 anymore for shootings like this) is the main benefit of this lens.
p.27 #19 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
tsdevine wrote:
So you are saying that Tamron is purposely doing this in order to "trick" people (aka customers) into buying a $1900 lens before they find out it's "not good". I mean that's basically what you're saying. Realize that no lens is perfect and most lenses produced today have some set of redeeming qualities and some set of perceived flaws.
I didn't realize that Tamron had such an awful reputation, because if they didn't, they would after this.
Do you have ANY source of information this that you're basing this "theory" on, other than pure speculation on your part? Have they done this is the past? The smoking man told you this?
Note that you're not saying "I think Tamron is hiding the lens", you say "Tamron is hiding this lens". Speculation presented as fact is a dangerous thing. So cite your source of this information.
If they received more preorders than expected, could they be slow rolling this out from a 3rd party reviewing perspective? Is it possible they are trying to get manufacturing caught up before creating more buzz?
The above is pure speculation. And I'm properly disclosing it as such.
You are right, I shouldn’t speak in absolute terms. However, go and look back at every other Tamron lens release the last few years. All the reviewers I mentioned had the lens in hand and their reviews up 3-4 weeks before the lens was released. Non of them have even seen this lens much less been given a copy to review. Yet Tamron has plenty for the no name reviewers who say nothing but positive things and appear to be involved with Tamron to some degree. Their videos are basically promotional videos, not real reviews.
As I said, Matt Granger is the only major reviewer to get one and he wasn’t impressed with it at all really, watch his video. When you add all this up, it sure appears Tamron is keeping this lens from real and unbiased reviewers. No one cares about the 28-75 as much because everyone knows that lens, a few minor upgrades is not a big deal. The 35-150 is a whole different story. Your theory about Tamron not wanting to create more buzz is silly. When does any company not want more attention and buzz on a new product? Lol
p.27 #20 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
zeitlos wrote:
A bit of German dialect Wedding photographer. For me the perfect example why this lens is such an enrichment for the Sony system. She says that she always shoots with two cameras. One with a 35mm prime, one with a 85mm prime. She‘s so excited that it really works out to replace those to cameras with just a one camera one lens solution. She also says that she often (in churches etc.) misses the longer option when only having 85mm. This is very versatile. The weight isn‘t okay for her, she says. According to her, the AF during her shooting was not behaving any differently than the ones of Sony lenses. For her as a wedding photographer this lens is perfect.
She’s going to be really disappointed when she finds out that f2 at 35mm and f/2.8 at 85mm on the 35-150 will not perform nearly as well as the much faster primes she’s using, especially in a church or lower light settings. THe difference between f/2.8 and f/1.4 is massive in low light.
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