p.28 #1 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
Dexter75 wrote:
She’s going to be really disappointed when she finds out that f2 at 35mm and f/2.8 at 85mm on the 35-150 will not perform nearly as well as the much faster primes she’s using, especially in a church or lower light settings. THe difference between f/2.8 and f/1.4 is massive in low light.
Do you really think as a professional shooter she needs someone to tell her the difference?
But we (you) found another thing that really sucks about this zoom lens: It‘s only a F2.0 - 2.8 (35-150mm on FF)
Again, t trust in people to make their own judgement.
p.28 #2 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
So none of the reviewers going to review the 28-75 G2, you're calling it right? Honestly, your speculation seems more unreasonable than mine (to me, maybe not others.) I think expectations are a little too high for the 35-150, but you are saying they are going after a more high end market (at $1900) and they are purposely trying to screw over their customers. Because that obviously makes sense? I mean Tamron wants to compete with Sony and Sigma, and tricking their customers (even maybe first time Tamron purchasers) is really their strategy? Really?
Creating a buzz around a product you can't deliver isn't a "pat yourself on the back" moment. You can lose momentum on a product release.
Everyone can speculate, and I really wouldn't have a beef with what you are posting if you present it as speculation. I wouldn't have posted normally what I did, it was to prove there are possibly reasons other than yours.
Anyway, please soften your posts that are based on speculation by using terms like "think", "believe", "maybe", etc and everything will be cool. That really is the crux of my feedback, softening can still allow you to get your point across. We really don't know why this is the way it is, we'll find out eventually I guess (maybe...)
You are right, I shouldn’t speak in absolute terms. However, go and look back at every other Tamron lens release the last few years. All the reviewers I mentioned had the lens in hand and their reviews up 3-4 weeks before the lens was released. Non of them have even seen this lens much less been given a copy to review. Yet Tamron has plenty for the no name reviewers who say nothing but positive things and appear to be involved with Tamron to some degree. Their videos are basically promotional videos, not real reviews.
As I said, Matt Granger is the only major reviewer to get one and he wasn’t impressed with it at all really, watch his video. When you add all this up, it sure appears Tamron is keeping this lens from real and unbiased reviewers. No one cares about the 28-75 as much because everyone knows that lens, a few minor upgrades is not a big deal. The 35-150 is a whole different story. Your theory about Tamron not wanting to create more buzz is silly. When does any company not want more attention and buzz on a new product? Lol ...Show more →
p.28 #3 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
People buying variable aperture lenses need to do their research, there is nothing new there.
If this lens sucks, it won't sell, it's as simple as that.
Dexter75 wrote:
She’s going to be really disappointed when she finds out that f2 at 35mm and f/2.8 at 85mm on the 35-150 will not perform nearly as well as the much faster primes she’s using, especially in a church or lower light settings. THe difference between f/2.8 and f/1.4 is massive in low light.
p.28 #4 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
Dexter75 wrote:
She’s going to be really disappointed when she finds out that f2 at 35mm and f/2.8 at 85mm on the 35-150 will not perform nearly as well as the much faster primes she’s using, especially in a church or lower light settings. THe difference between f/2.8 and f/1.4 is massive in low light.
Can hardly argue that 2 stops of light is massive.
But, from experience, you quite rearly use 1.4 in real life event shooting on 85mm due to quite shallow DOF. 80% of real life shots (my own statistics from the same 35/85 set up) have been done at 1.8-2.
And 1 stop of light difference is ok with exceptional high ISO performance of modern cameras.
The friend of mine had swaped his primes set-up for one MONSTROUS Canon 2.0 zoom and is absolutely happy.
Styles of shooting are dufferent, but such an intetesting lens will surelly be quite popular for one-lens-only set-up for event photographers. If - the big IF - the lens is as good as we are dreaming.
We will see.
p.28 #5 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
IslandMed wrote:
Can hardly argue that 2 stops of light is massive.
But, from experience, you quite rearly use 1.4 in real life event shooting on 85mm due to quite shallow DOF. 80% of real life shots (my own statistics from the same 35/85 set up) have been done at 1.8-2.
And 1 stop of light difference is ok with exceptional high ISO performance of modern cameras.
The friend of mine had swaped his primes set-up for one MONSTROUS Canon 2.0 zoom and is absolutely happy.
Styles of shooting are dufferent, but such an intetesting lens will surelly be quite popular for one-lens-only set-up for event photographers. If - the big IF - the lens is as good as we are dreaming.
We will see....Show more →
I can see it being used for events...but as a travel lens like advertised, I just think it's too big and heavy. I personally think 35mm is not wide enough for events...I use two cameras with a 25 and 85 prime when shooting events or concerts.
p.28 #6 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
tsdevine wrote:
So none of the reviewers going to review the 28-75 G2, you're calling it right? Honestly, your speculation seems more unreasonable than mine (to me, maybe not others.) I think expectations are a little too high for the 35-150, but you are saying they are going after a more high end market (at $1900) and they are purposely trying to screw over their customers. Because that obviously makes sense? I mean Tamron wants to compete with Sony and Sigma, and tricking their customers (even maybe first time Tamron purchasers) is really their strategy? Really?
Creating a buzz around a product you can't deliver isn't a "pat yourself on the back" moment. You can lose momentum on a product release.
Everyone can speculate, and I really wouldn't have a beef with what you are posting if you present it as speculation. I wouldn't have posted normally what I did, it was to prove there are possibly reasons other than yours.
Anyway, please soften your posts that are based on speculation by using terms like "think", "believe", "maybe", etc and everything will be cool. That really is the crux of my feedback, softening can still allow you to get your point across. We really don't know why this is the way it is, we'll find out eventually I guess (maybe...)
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Due to supply issues, the Tamrons are a little behind, however they will go out to reviews… I’ve been told this by Tamron, because their sending me one when available. I figure they’re in the hands of big reviewers first.
p.28 #7 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
IslandMed wrote:
Can hardly argue that 2 stops of light is massive.
But, from experience, you quite rearly use 1.4 in real life event shooting on 85mm due to quite shallow DOF. 80% of real life shots (my own statistics from the same 35/85 set up) have been done at 1.8-2.
And 1 stop of light difference is ok with exceptional high ISO performance of modern cameras.
The friend of mine had swaped his primes set-up for one MONSTROUS Canon 2.0 zoom and is absolutely happy.
Styles of shooting are dufferent, but such an intetesting lens will surelly be quite popular for one-lens-only set-up for event photographers. If - the big IF - the lens is as good as we are dreaming.
We will see....Show more →
"And 1 stop of light difference is ok"
For some yes, for me a no. Why should I compromise on IQ (DR, Colors) and increase post processing time? I have never been in a situation where a zoom was required to save a situation, however, I always have two cameras on my side, as has my wife.
And all that doesn't change the fact that I am too at f1.8-f2 wih a 85 most of the time. But in a church or dark location, I try to use f1.4 if possible, to increase SS and reduce iso.
Doesn't change the fact, too, that this is a nice and very welcome lens in Sony's arsenal.
p.28 #8 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
Dexter75 wrote:
She’s going to be really disappointed when she finds out that f2 at 35mm and f/2.8 at 85mm on the 35-150 will not perform nearly as well as the much faster primes she’s using, especially in a church or lower light settings. THe difference between f/2.8 and f/1.4 is massive in low light.
Interesting, when I commented early in this thread on the 35-150 having a light gathering advantage over the Tamron 28-200 which would make it suitable for weddings/events where the latter is not, you said the following:
Dexter75 wrote:
This isn't the DSLR days any longer. Higher ISO are a non issue with newer mirrorless cameras, especially Sony cameras. I can compensate for the slower aperture by increasing my ISO, I can also make adjustments to brighten in post if I need to.
I fail to see why the difference between f2.8 and f1.4 is massive and will disappoint someone while f2.8 to f5.6 is a non issue - they are both two stops difference. Seems like a contradiction on your part. There have been 15+ pages of comments since I last checked in on this thread and am surprised you are still here bashing the lens and making wild accusations about Tamron. Pretty sure someone said it already but it's clear that you are not happy with what this lens offers and that's fine, but maybe it's time to move on.
p.28 #9 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
jmcy wrote:
Interesting, when I commented early in this thread on the 35-150 having a light gathering advantage over the Tamron 28-200 which would make it suitable for weddings/events where the latter is not, you said the following:
I fail to see why the difference between f2.8 and f1.4 is massive and will disappoint someone while f2.8 to f5.6 is a non issue - they are both two stops difference. Seems like a contradiction on your part. There have been 15+ pages of comments since I last checked in on this thread and am surprised you are still here bashing the lens and making wild accusations about Tamron. Pretty sure someone said it already but it's clear that you are not happy with what this lens offers and that's fine, but maybe it's time to move on....Show more →
Im not shooting in situations where I can't control my light like a wedding photographer does. I shoot portraits and most the time with controlled lighting. Also, what photographer is going to replace super fast primes with f/2.8 and slower zooms? She comes off like a Tamron salesperson, which is why I dont trust any of these "reviews". We are talking about two different things and your quote of mine is way out of context. See the difference?
p.28 #12 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
There are a handful of reviews of this lense available online. This one caught my eyes as it shows a pretty bad auto focusing issue of this lense. It fails to track a person moving towards the camera in good light. Hopefully this is resolved by the time the lense is released.
p.28 #13 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
kenwood wrote:
There are a handful of reviews of this lense available online. This one caught my eyes as it shows a pretty bad auto focusing issue of this lense. It fails to track a person moving towards the camera in good light. Hopefully this is resolved by the time the lense is released.
Yeah, this one has been posted I think already. We will have to see for ourselves as the other german review shows no issues in a similar scenario (maybe it depends on the body) ...
p.28 #14 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
Dexter75 wrote:
Im not shooting in situations where I can't control my light like a wedding photographer does. I shoot portraits and most the time with controlled lighting. Also, what photographer is going to replace super fast primes with f/2.8 and slower zooms? She comes off like a Tamron salesperson, which is why I dont trust any of these "reviews". We are talking about two different things and your quote of mine is way out of context. See the difference?
And here is the context:
Dexter75 wrote:
So why is the 35-150 a "pro" lens suitable for weddings and events but the 28-200 is not? Id argue its far more important to have 28-34mm, where space may be limited for group photos on the wide end, and 151-200mm when you may be limited by how close you can get on the telephoto end, than a faster aperture.
It is clear you were comparing the two lenses when it came to weddings. Nothing was taken out of context. Also, there are plenty of photographers (pro or amateur) who use f2.8 zooms. It is fine to prefer primes but that doesn't change the fact that there are others who use zooms and achieve great results.
p.28 #15 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
kenwood wrote:
There are a handful of reviews of this lense available online. This one caught my eyes as it shows a pretty bad auto focusing issue of this lense. It fails to track a person moving towards the camera in good light. Hopefully this is resolved by the time the lense is released.
He tried af priority, default, and while zooming. Don’t Sony cameras Have the AF while zooming issue? Didn’t think that was ever resolved. I would have liked to see release priority.
p.28 #19 · Official: Tamron 35-150mm F/2-2.8 Di III VXD (Model A058)
Immortal wrote:
I didn't get my yesterday, however i did get notice from courier today that it will be delivered tomorrow. So yeah...
Good to know you're alive, I was beginning to suspect you have been captured on the day of delivery by Tamron agents to have more people preorder before someone discovers the truth about this lens .
