LBJ2 wrote:
Beautiful camera. But what is the significance to "black paint" compared to the regular black M10-R ?
As far as I can tell, it received the "P" goodies such as a Leica engraving on top and the front black screw in place of the red dot. The black paint on brass is also a more classic look. It's enamel paint which wears faster than the chrome versions, for that patine look when the underneath brass is exposed.
Looks like a cosmetic change only, so no improvements in hardware or software. Some shooters don't like either the engraving or the red dot.
LBJ2 wrote:
Beautiful camera. But what is the significance to "black paint" compared to the regular black M10-R ?
It "brass" nicely as they did in M9/M9P and M240/M240P/MD262, and many of their film cameras. I personally don't find brassing desirable as they are literally scratches or blemishes to me. But it it's a well used and brassed at a great price, I wouldn't mind.
The feeling of handling a black painted M is pretty different than chrome - more grippy, less metallic look to them, and looked nicer in person.
Funnily, Fred beat LUF forum to start a thread! Also can't imagine how much premium we need to pay over the regular version...
jeffersoncasey wrote:
It "brass" nicely as they did in M9/M9P and M240/M240P/MD262, and many of their film cameras. I personally don't find brassing desirable as they are literally scratches or blemishes to me. But it it's a well used and brassed at a great price, I wouldn't mind.
The feeling of handling a black painted M is pretty different than chrome - more grippy, less metallic look to them, and looked nicer in person.
Funnily, Fred beat LUF forum to start a thread! Also can't imagine how much premium we need to pay over the regular version...
Black Paint...So this is what causes the brass'ing I've read about. Got it. Thank you.
jeffersoncasey wrote:
It "brass" nicely as they did in M9/M9P and M240/M240P/MD262, and many of their film cameras. I personally don't find brassing desirable as they are literally scratches or blemishes to me. But it it's a well used and brassed at a great price, I wouldn't mind.
The feeling of handling a black painted M is pretty different than chrome - more grippy, less metallic look to them, and looked nicer in person.
Funnily, Fred beat LUF forum to start a thread! Also can't imagine how much premium we need to pay over the regular version...
Yes, the paint it shinier compared to the M10-P or R which is matte/chrome. The M10-R "black paint" seems similar to the M240 and M9 black paint models.
I'm hooked on the Silver Chrome personally. But I also like the all black M10-M, maybe because it's a B&W camera only and all black makes sense to me for the -M. Ha Ha
Fred Miranda wrote:
We should start our own dedicated Leica forum! :-0
Fred - yes we should!! I have been on since 2003 when I was only a Canon user - but with time I matured (as did bank account allowing me to venture into Leica land. Its 20th year of your forum - I say its time for a Leica forum.
jeffersoncasey wrote:
The regular R already in $9k territory and 1.2k premium over the M10P. A 10% premium over the regular R would be a nice 5 figures there...
The body/lens combination in the pictures is probably in the $18-20K range...
"The Leica M10-R Black Paint limited edition camera will be announced on June 24 0 it will be a limited edition of 2,000 pieces worldwide and it will be priced at €8,390 (around $10,000)."
I dunno. I have a black paint M-P (film) and black chrome other Ms. I much prefer the black chrome look - less shiny, tougher more business like appeal.
The BP is deliberately designed to wear easily revealing brass. Which is cool if that's your bag.
I will take simply any M10-R if the price is right for me - no matter if black, chrome, or anthrazite.... I don't think the black-paint one is for me due to the hefty surcharge. It's for enthusiasts and collectors. Nevertheless, it has a nice look, agreed!
Fred Miranda wrote:
As far as I can tell, it received the "P" skin with the Leica engraving on top and the front black screw in place of the red dot. The black paint on brass is also a more classic look.
Looks like a cosmetic change only. Some shooters don't like either the engraving or the red dot.
But it it's a well used and brassed at a great price, I wouldn't mind. 
