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Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review

  
 
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p.30 #1 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


nehemiahphoto wrote:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1482923/35

Starts at the bottom of that page, and goes for 3 or 4 more.

The Pentax 31 is a wonderful lens—used it for years. Still miss mine. Coverage on the GFX is surprisingly good, the draw is quite nice, and the price is quite low nowadays. Really a bargain for a nice rendering 24/1.4-ish on MF option. If I had a GFX, the Pentax would be used frequently, especially given the lack of fast wide glass for the system.


You don't own the combo anymore? Why not?



Feb 04, 2022 at 09:02 PM
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p.30 #2 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


Photo cross posted in the Sony FE Image Thread and taken at 5:01 PM.

Looking down stream along the roadway that runs along Jordan Creek lined with trees in Autumn Color.
Tripod mounted A7rII Kolari Vision UT sensor modified camera and Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II Asph VM lens; silent shutter.
ISO 100, f8?, 1/60 second.
Exposure Corrected +0.09 Stops.

October 28, 2021
Along Jordan Creek, near the Ford, Trexler Nature Preserve, Schnecksville, PA.

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Feb 05, 2022 at 08:00 AM
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p.30 #3 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


derKoekje wrote:
You don't own the combo anymore? Why not?


The technical and IQ difference from the 50MP non-BSI and non-stabilized sensor was not significant to me compared to Sony's cheap but superb 42mp FF sensor, and I don't prefer the aspect ratio of the GFX line as I often 16x9 or crop for longer photos, so some of the sensor real estate was wasted on me. Files had a bit of a different feel, a pinch more DR, I liked the tonal response better, but not enough to justify running two systems.

And more importantly, the GFX lenses, while very well corrected, are large and somewhat slow when compared to FF, and they favor more modern renderings. There's very little 3rd party support for current glass (like CV or Tamron or Sigma). In FF terms, they haven't put out a f2.8 or faster 18-24mm prime with good coma correction, nor do they have a fast-ish f2 28-35mm lens which is my most used. I did find some nice adapted glass, but the FF world is just sooo much more expansive in that sense. So, overall, a poor match for they way I shoot.

Plus, the first gen. 50s and 50r really felt like a line in it's infancy--slow, bad AF, EVF on the 50r was meh. The second gen, especially the 100s helps the sensor issues I had and overall shooting experience, but the lenses are still not that attractive to me. And the price and size difference of the system to is significant.



Feb 05, 2022 at 04:33 PM
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p.30 #4 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


wow, thanks for posting these test images - they look incredible

are there other M-mount 28's I should be considering within this price range?



Feb 07, 2022 at 12:17 AM
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p.30 #5 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


I absolutely love this lens. I think it's my favorite CV lens to date. All a7r2 NKIR v3+ Quite happy with the coma correction too--can definitely use for astro.



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Feb 13, 2022 at 07:20 PM
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p.30 #6 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


nehemiahphoto wrote:
I absolutely love this lens. I think it's my favorite CV lens to date. All a7r2 NKIR v3+ Quite happy with the coma correction too--can definitely use for astro.

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Lovely images Nehemiah! I love the CV 28/2 II as well. Very dependable.



Feb 13, 2022 at 11:22 PM
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p.30 #7 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


Photo cross posted in the Sony FE Image Thread and taken at 3:25 PM.

Looking at footsteps through the snow, across the ice and snow covered Jordan creek to the far bank and down stream to the Pedestrian Bridge (partially visible).
Tripod mounted A7rII Kolari Vision UT sensor modified camera and Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens; silent shutter.
ISO 100, f8, 1/125 second.
Exposure Corrected -0.70 Stops.

January 30, 2022
Along Jordan Creek not far from the Pedestrian Bridge and the Ford, Trexler Nature Preserve, Schnecksville, PA.

Rich







Feb 14, 2022 at 08:39 AM
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p.30 #8 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
Lovely images Nehemiah! I love the CV 28/2 II as well. Very dependable.


Thanks Fred! And yes, very dependable.



Feb 14, 2022 at 10:38 AM
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p.30 #9 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review



ham3cheese wrote:
are there other M-mount 28's I should be considering within this price range?


No, not for under a grand!


This assumes you desire sharp and modern and have a camera with a suitably compatible sensor stack.



Feb 14, 2022 at 11:40 AM
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p.30 #10 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


rscheffler wrote:
No, not for under a grand!

This assumes you desire sharp and modern and have a camera with a suitably compatible sensor stack.


I would recommend to give the Konica 28/2.8 in M mount a try. It's very similar, in both design, performance and size/weight, to the Leica Elmarit-M 28mm (v4 - pre ASPH). IMHO, the Konica 28 is an under appreciated WA lens in M mount and you can certainly find one under a grand.



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p.30 #11 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


ocean2059 wrote:
I would recommend to give the Konica 28/2.8 in M mount a try. It's very similar, in both design, performance and size/weight, to the Leica Elmarit-M 28mm (v4 - pre ASPH). IMHO, the Konica 28 is an under appreciated WA lens in M mount and you can certainly find one under a grand.


But all 2.8’s…for me those options are simply too slow. Same with the ZM 28/2.8 and Contax G 28 which I liked as well. I did like the CV 28/2v1, but never shot it on a Leica or modded sensor.

You can already snag a new CV 28/2v2 off the b/s board for $700-750. Incredible value.



Feb 14, 2022 at 01:04 PM
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ocean2059 wrote:
I would recommend to give the Konica 28/2.8 in M mount a try. It's very similar, in both design, performance and size/weight, to the Leica Elmarit-M 28mm (v4 - pre ASPH). IMHO, the Konica 28 is an under appreciated WA lens in M mount and you can certainly find one under a grand.


For under a grand? The original 1.9/28 Ultron ASPH, LTM. It's the best of the three imo (I have all three).

fwiw:

https://casualphotophile.com/2020/11/09/voigtlander-ultron-28mm-ltm-lens-review/



Feb 14, 2022 at 01:24 PM
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p.30 #13 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


mapgraphs wrote:
For under a grand? The original 1.9/28 Ultron ASPH, LTM. It's the best of the three imo (I have all three).

fwiw:

https://casualphotophile.com/2020/11/09/voigtlander-ultron-28mm-ltm-lens-review/


I have the original Ultron 28/1.9 as well as the latest 28/2 v2. Both the 28/2 and the Lux 28 ASPH are perfectly calibrated for focus with my M10-R and M246 cameras but the 28/1.9 back focuses with both Voigtlander and Chinese 28/90 LTM to M adapters. Would that suggest that the problem is with the lens rather than the adapter(s)?



Feb 14, 2022 at 09:53 PM
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p.30 #14 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


genji wrote:
I have the original Ultron 28/1.9 as well as the latest 28/2 v2. Both the 28/2 and the Lux 28 ASPH are perfectly calibrated for focus with my M10-R and M246 cameras but the 28/1.9 back focuses with both Voigtlander and Chinese 28/90 LTM to M adapters. Would that suggest that the problem is with the lens rather than the adapter(s)?


What do you think of the 28/1.9?



Feb 14, 2022 at 11:02 PM
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p.30 #15 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


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What do you think of the 28/1.9?


I used it a few times when I first got my M10-P then it sat in the dry cabinet until recently. So I can’t really offer an informed opinion. Ideally it could fill the vacant vintage slot that was previously occupied by the Elmarit-M 28/2.8 v4 (according to my “at least one vintage and one modern lens for each of the focal lengths from 28mm to 90mm” rule). But not unless I can sort out the back focus issue.



Feb 15, 2022 at 12:05 AM
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p.30 #16 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


genji wrote:
... the 28/1.9 back focuses with both Voigtlander and Chinese 28/90 LTM to M adapters. Would that suggest that the problem is with the lens rather than the adapter(s)?


Probably. It might depend on how much. And it depends on consistent ability to nail focus... I'd start with the lens but, the rangefinder adjustment could be off just enough for some lenses to work fine but others not so much, it's down to tolerance extremes to a certain extent. It helps to know each lens' quirks combined with the quirks of the mechanical tolerances. I've used the 1.9/28 on the M, A7, Z 7. It's a brilliant combination of sharpness and rendering.




Feb 15, 2022 at 06:17 AM
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p.30 #17 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


mapgraphs wrote:
Probably. It might depend on how much. And it depends on consistent ability to nail focus... I'd start with the lens but, the rangefinder adjustment could be off just enough for some lenses to work fine but others not so much, it's down to tolerance extremes to a certain extent. It helps to know each lens' quirks combined with the quirks of the mechanical tolerances. I've used the 1.9/28 on the M, A7, Z 7. It's a brilliant combination of sharpness and rendering.



Would be curious to hear more thoughts on it and see photos if you have any to share!



Feb 15, 2022 at 11:42 AM
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p.30 #18 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


One place to start:

https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=28mm%20f%2F1.9%20Ultron

I have some in there plus a smattering posted here.

Edited on Feb 18, 2022 at 05:34 PM · View previous versions



Feb 15, 2022 at 01:22 PM
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p.30 #19 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


And for something different, from today.

M-240 and the 1.9/28 Ultron LTM (low light, late afternoon)...



Tavern II


Fuller House


Common


Edited on Feb 18, 2022 at 05:35 PM · View previous versions



Feb 15, 2022 at 05:11 PM
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p.30 #20 · Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Review


Photo cross posted in the Sony FE Image Thread and taken at 3:27 PM.

Looking down Loch Valley Road at/near the the intersection of Loch Valley Road and Stony Ridge Road with snow; a portion of a farm and farmer's fields are on both sides of the road.
Tripod mounted A7rII Kolari Vision UT Sensor modified camera and Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II VM lens; silent shutter.
ISO 100, f8?, 1/500 second.
Exposure Corrected +0.79 Stops.

January 31, 2022
Near the intersection of Loch Valley Road and Stony Ridge Road, New Tripoli, PA.

Rich







Feb 16, 2022 at 05:36 AM
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