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p.68 #1A1 Reviews/Video thread
There is a longer review from the same guys:
That contains an interesting high speed capture of the shutter motion (around 11:00). Looks to behave somewhat different from what I expected. I don't speak the language and there are no subtitles, so not completely sure what I'm seeing.
That contains an interesting high speed capture of the shutter motion (around 11:00). Looks to behave somewhat different from what I expected. I don't speak the language and there are no subtitles, so not completely sure what I'm seeing.
Mar 28, 2021 at 04:03 AM
p.68 #2A1 Reviews/Video thread
nobody23 wrote:
Can someone please translate and conclude?
He starting with saying he has done very little birding. He said the A1's AF seems even better than the A9's. As the pigeon was getting closer, the keeper rate decreased. He said if the birds' presence in the frame were big enough the BEAF worked, but if they were too small with busy background, the BEAF is not very reliable. Eye AF didn't work on turtles and fish, he also commented.
Alex Fung from Hong Kong published another A1 video. He pretty much just let the video itself do the talking.
Alex also just published a video showing the high ISO and AF in dimmed environment, he didn't say which one is better, just showed the pictures. He said both AF of both in dimmed environment were very good. He said Canon is his main system.
Edited on Mar 28, 2021 at 06:12 AM · View previous versions
Can someone please translate and conclude?
He starting with saying he has done very little birding. He said the A1's AF seems even better than the A9's. As the pigeon was getting closer, the keeper rate decreased. He said if the birds' presence in the frame were big enough the BEAF worked, but if they were too small with busy background, the BEAF is not very reliable. Eye AF didn't work on turtles and fish, he also commented.
Alex Fung from Hong Kong published another A1 video. He pretty much just let the video itself do the talking.
Alex also just published a video showing the high ISO and AF in dimmed environment, he didn't say which one is better, just showed the pictures. He said both AF of both in dimmed environment were very good. He said Canon is his main system.
Edited on Mar 28, 2021 at 06:12 AM · View previous versions
Mar 28, 2021 at 05:02 AM
p.68 #3A1 Reviews/Video thread
Douglas L wrote:
Can someone please translate and conclude?He starting with saying he has done very little birding. He said the A1's AF seems even better than the A9's. As the pigeon was getting closer, the keeper rate decreased. These are the only interesting things he said.
Alex Fung from Hong Kong published another A1 video. He pretty much just let the video itself do the talking.
Alex also just published a video showing the high ISO and AF in dimmed environment, he didn't say which one is better, just showed the pictures. He said both AF of both in dimmed environment were very good. He said Canon is...Show more →
That's impressive Douglas, Everyone giving me heck for saying you can see whats going on through someone else's viewfinder...
I know we are not seeing the pictures, but you can see clearly in the video the bird is in focus...
nobody23 wrote
Can someone please translate and conclude?
Alex Fung from Hong Kong published another A1 video. He pretty much just let the video itself do the talking.
Alex also just published a video showing the high ISO and AF in dimmed environment, he didn't say which one is better, just showed the pictures. He said both AF of both in dimmed environment were very good. He said Canon is...Show more →
That's impressive Douglas, Everyone giving me heck for saying you can see whats going on through someone else's viewfinder...
I know we are not seeing the pictures, but you can see clearly in the video the bird is in focus... Mar 28, 2021 at 06:09 AM
p.68 #4A1 Reviews/Video thread
Pius Sullivan wrote:
Can someone please translate and conclude?He starting with saying he has done very little birding. He said the A1's AF seems even better than the A9's. As the pigeon was getting closer, the keeper rate decreased. These are the only interesting things he said.
Alex Fung from Hong Kong published another A1 video. He pretty much just let the video itself do the talking.
Alex also just published a video showing the high ISO and AF in dimmed environment, he didn't say which one is better, just showed the pictures. He said both AF of both in dimmed environment were very good. He said Canon is his main system.That's impressive Douglas, Everyone giving me heck for saying you can see whats going on through someone else's viewfinder... I know we are not seeing the pictures, but you can see clearly in the video the bird is in focus...
I am impressed by how the A1's AF was able to stick with the eagle with the busy backgrounds, almost the whole time.
Douglas L wrote
nobody23 wrote
Can someone please translate and conclude?
Alex Fung from Hong Kong published another A1 video. He pretty much just let the video itself do the talking.
Alex also just published a video showing the high ISO and AF in dimmed environment, he didn't say which one is better, just showed the pictures. He said both AF of both in dimmed environment were very good. He said Canon is his main system.
I know we are not seeing the pictures, but you can see clearly in the video the bird is in focus... I am impressed by how the A1's AF was able to stick with the eagle with the busy backgrounds, almost the whole time.
Mar 28, 2021 at 06:31 AM
p.68 #5A1 Reviews/Video thread
Douglas L wrote:
Can someone please translate and conclude?He starting with saying he has done very little birding. He said the A1's AF seems even better than the A9's. As the pigeon was getting closer, the keeper rate decreased. These are the only interesting things he said.
Alex Fung from Hong Kong published another A1 video. He pretty much just let the video itself do the talking.
Alex also just published a video showing the high ISO and AF in dimmed environment, he didn't say which one is better, just showed the pictures. He said both AF of both in dimmed environment were very good. He said Canon is his main system.That's impressive Douglas, Everyone giving me heck for saying you can see whats going on through someone else's viewfinder... I know we are not seeing the pictures, but you can see clearly in the video the bird is in focus... I am impressed by how the A1'shandle the AF was able to stick with the eagle with the busy backgrounds, almost the whole time.
It's not a fast bird but you're right it did an excellent job sticking with the bird... no complaints there, handled the busy backgrounds no prob.
The few times he lost the bird, think was because he's using a tripod... hand-holding would have worked much easier for tracking the bird.
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Pius Sullivan wrote
Douglas L wrote
nobody23 wrote
Can someone please translate and conclude?
Alex Fung from Hong Kong published another A1 video. He pretty much just let the video itself do the talking.
Alex also just published a video showing the high ISO and AF in dimmed environment, he didn't say which one is better, just showed the pictures. He said both AF of both in dimmed environment were very good. He said Canon is his main system.
I know we are not seeing the pictures, but you can see clearly in the video the bird is in focus... It's not a fast bird but you're right it did an excellent job sticking with the bird... no complaints there, handled the busy backgrounds no prob.
The few times he lost the bird, think was because he's using a tripod... hand-holding would have worked much easier for tracking the bird.
Edited on Mar 28, 2021 at 06:48 AM · View previous versions
Mar 28, 2021 at 06:37 AM
p.68 #6A1 Reviews/Video thread
Daran wrote:
There is a longer review from the same guys:
That contains an interesting high speed capture of the shutter motion (around 11:00). Looks to behave somewhat different from what I expected. I don't speak the language and there are no subtitles, so not completely sure what I'm seeing.
At 11:00, he said the A1 doesn't have a first curtain, that's why the mechanic shutter sound is so quiet. I don't understand this technical stuff but I think that's what he implied.
There is a longer review from the same guys:
That contains an interesting high speed capture of the shutter motion (around 11:00). Looks to behave somewhat different from what I expected. I don't speak the language and there are no subtitles, so not completely sure what I'm seeing.
At 11:00, he said the A1 doesn't have a first curtain, that's why the mechanic shutter sound is so quiet. I don't understand this technical stuff but I think that's what he implied.
Mar 28, 2021 at 06:44 AM
p.68 #7A1 Reviews/Video thread
Douglas L wrote:
That contains an interesting high speed capture of the shutter motion (around 11:00). Looks to behave somewhat different from what I expected. I don't speak the language and there are no subtitles, so not completely sure what I'm seeing.At 11:00, he said the A1 doesn't have a first curtain, that's why the mechanic shutter sound is so quiet. I don't understand this technical stuff but I think that's what he implied.
I don't mean to go off topic, but you would think in today's world of AI, language should not be a barrier.
Should be able to click on a video and get perfect translation...
Daran wrote
There is a longer review from the same guys:That contains an interesting high speed capture of the shutter motion (around 11:00). Looks to behave somewhat different from what I expected. I don't speak the language and there are no subtitles, so not completely sure what I'm seeing.
I don't mean to go off topic, but you would think in today's world of AI, language should not be a barrier.
Should be able to click on a video and get perfect translation...
Mar 28, 2021 at 06:57 AM
p.68 #8A1 Reviews/Video thread
What is he shooting in, is that called wide zone in Sony terms or just zone?
I noticed the dancing dots does not go outside the square.
I noticed the dancing dots does not go outside the square.
Mar 28, 2021 at 07:18 AM
p.68 #9A1 Reviews/Video thread
Pius Sullivan wrote:
What is he shooting in, is that called wide zone in Sony terms or just zone?
I noticed the dancing dots does not go outside the square.
That's Zone. I think he could easliy have used Wide (whole screen) and he could have used Tracking. It's not clear whether Bird Eye AF was engaged.
What is he shooting in, is that called wide zone in Sony terms or just zone?
I noticed the dancing dots does not go outside the square.
That's Zone. I think he could easliy have used Wide (whole screen) and he could have used Tracking. It's not clear whether Bird Eye AF was engaged.
Mar 28, 2021 at 07:24 AM
p.68 #10A1 Reviews/Video thread
Pius Sullivan wrote:
What is he shooting in, is that called wide zone in Sony terms or just zone?
I noticed the dancing dots does not go outside the square.
As per above, he was in Zone but not in Zone:Tracking. Zone Tracking would start within that Zone but then would track outside of it when he lags in his panning. Wide would have probably been okay also and would have just danced the green squares no matter where the kite flew in the scene.
I do prefer Zone (non-tracking) just to give the camera a little more direction as to where to look and what to ignore. But then you need a bit more skill and shooting off a tripod is not conducive to keeping a bird that changes direction that quickly in the frame.
I would have used Zone if handholding in that situation but on a tripod I would have used Wide unless I found Wide was regularly grabbing some other thing in the frame.
The trick to Sony AF is that there is a preference for whatever is in the centre of your AF Area programmed into the algorithms. I just noticed this with time/experience of shooting Sony but Mark Galer has confirmed it (supposedly with conversations with Sony) in some of his AF videos.
What is he shooting in, is that called wide zone in Sony terms or just zone?
I noticed the dancing dots does not go outside the square.
As per above, he was in Zone but not in Zone:Tracking. Zone Tracking would start within that Zone but then would track outside of it when he lags in his panning. Wide would have probably been okay also and would have just danced the green squares no matter where the kite flew in the scene.
I do prefer Zone (non-tracking) just to give the camera a little more direction as to where to look and what to ignore. But then you need a bit more skill and shooting off a tripod is not conducive to keeping a bird that changes direction that quickly in the frame.
I would have used Zone if handholding in that situation but on a tripod I would have used Wide unless I found Wide was regularly grabbing some other thing in the frame.
The trick to Sony AF is that there is a preference for whatever is in the centre of your AF Area programmed into the algorithms. I just noticed this with time/experience of shooting Sony but Mark Galer has confirmed it (supposedly with conversations with Sony) in some of his AF videos.
Mar 28, 2021 at 07:42 AM
p.68 #11A1 Reviews/Video thread
Pius Sullivan wrote:
That contains an interesting high speed capture of the shutter motion (around 11:00). Looks to behave somewhat different from what I expected. I don't speak the language and there are no subtitles, so not completely sure what I'm seeing.At 11:00, he said the A1 doesn't have a first curtain, that's why the mechanic shutter sound is so quiet. I don't understand this technical stuff but I think that's what he implied.I don't mean to go off topic, but you would think in today's world of AI, language should not be a barrier.
Should be able to click on a video and get perfect translation...
The translations often show up later on YT vids. I'm not sure if the uploader has to enable that feature or how it works. It seems that if CC is used then eventually YT populates Auto-CC with every language under the sun. But I don't think it happens automatically for every video. Not being a YT star myself I have no idea what you have to do to get Auto-CC on your video??
Douglas L wrote
Daran wrote
There is a longer review from the same guys:That contains an interesting high speed capture of the shutter motion (around 11:00). Looks to behave somewhat different from what I expected. I don't speak the language and there are no subtitles, so not completely sure what I'm seeing.
Should be able to click on a video and get perfect translation...
The translations often show up later on YT vids. I'm not sure if the uploader has to enable that feature or how it works. It seems that if CC is used then eventually YT populates Auto-CC with every language under the sun. But I don't think it happens automatically for every video. Not being a YT star myself I have no idea what you have to do to get Auto-CC on your video??
Mar 28, 2021 at 07:44 AM
p.68 #12A1 Reviews/Video thread
arbitrage wrote:
I noticed the dancing dots does not go outside the square.As per above, he was in Zone but not in Zone:Tracking. Zone Tracking would start within that Zone but then would track outside of it when he lags in his panning. Wide would have probably been okay also and would have just danced the green squares no matter where the kite flew in the scene.
I do prefer Zone (non-tracking) just to give the camera a little more direction as to where to look and what to ignore. But then you need a bit more skill and shooting off a tripod is not conducive to keeping a bird that changes direction...Show more →
That's comparable to the R5, I have tracked killdeer like that and I think the killdeer are faster. But the A1 did great job and kudos to Alex for doing it on a tripod. He's a better man than I when comes to using a tripod...
Pius Sullivan wrote
What is he shooting in, is that called wide zone in Sony terms or just zone?I noticed the dancing dots does not go outside the square.
I do prefer Zone (non-tracking) just to give the camera a little more direction as to where to look and what to ignore. But then you need a bit more skill and shooting off a tripod is not conducive to keeping a bird that changes direction...Show more →
That's comparable to the R5, I have tracked killdeer like that and I think the killdeer are faster. But the A1 did great job and kudos to Alex for doing it on a tripod. He's a better man than I when comes to using a tripod...
Mar 28, 2021 at 02:53 PM
p.68 #13A1 Reviews/Video thread
arbitrage wrote:
I noticed the dancing dots does not go outside the square.As per above, he was in Zone but not in Zone:Tracking. Zone Tracking would start within that Zone but then would track outside of it when he lags in his panning. Wide would have probably been okay also and would have just danced the green squares no matter where the kite flew in the scene.
I do prefer Zone (non-tracking) just to give the camera a little more direction as to where to look and what to ignore. But then you need a bit more skill and shooting off a tripod is not conducive to keeping a bird that changes direction...Show more →
Arbitrage, don't know why you reference Mark Galer you're heads above him when it comes to knowledge about Sony's fast action camera's. Even with his access to Sony engineers he stumbles across the line. You are definitely the leader in this forum. Don't know why Sony hasn't picked you up as an Ambassador, seriously.
Pius Sullivan wrote
What is he shooting in, is that called wide zone in Sony terms or just zone?I noticed the dancing dots does not go outside the square.
I do prefer Zone (non-tracking) just to give the camera a little more direction as to where to look and what to ignore. But then you need a bit more skill and shooting off a tripod is not conducive to keeping a bird that changes direction...Show more →
Arbitrage, don't know why you reference Mark Galer you're heads above him when it comes to knowledge about Sony's fast action camera's. Even with his access to Sony engineers he stumbles across the line. You are definitely the leader in this forum. Don't know why Sony hasn't picked you up as an Ambassador, seriously.
Mar 28, 2021 at 03:46 PM
p.68 #14A1 Reviews/Video thread
Pius Sullivan wrote:
Don't know why Sony hasn't picked you up as an Ambassador, seriously.
Ambassadors must be loyal to the Country they represent. Arbitrage can never decide what Country he wants to live in, let alone be a citizen of.
Arbitrage is a man of the World. The World may not even this one....
Don't know why Sony hasn't picked you up as an Ambassador, seriously.
Ambassadors must be loyal to the Country they represent. Arbitrage can never decide what Country he wants to live in, let alone be a citizen of.
Arbitrage is a man of the World. The World may not even this one....
Mar 28, 2021 at 04:05 PM
p.68 #15A1 Reviews/Video thread
1bwana1 wrote:
Ambassadors must be loyal to the Country they represent. Arbitrage can never decide what Country he wants to live in, let alone be a citizen of.
Arbitrage is a man of the World. The World may not even this one....
Are people getting crazy now? Knowing how to operate a camera for a specific niche doesn't make you an ambassador. There are many here knowing how to do that.
Additionally, Pius is obviously underrating Galer's knowledge, who is quite versatile.
If you are not a Sony user, then to the blind the one-eyed or seeing one is king ;-)
Pius Sullivan wrote
Don't know why Sony hasn't picked you up as an Ambassador, seriously.Arbitrage is a man of the World. The World may not even this one....
Are people getting crazy now? Knowing how to operate a camera for a specific niche doesn't make you an ambassador. There are many here knowing how to do that.
Additionally, Pius is obviously underrating Galer's knowledge, who is quite versatile.
If you are not a Sony user, then to the blind the one-eyed or seeing one is king ;-)
Mar 28, 2021 at 04:10 PM
p.68 #16A1 Reviews/Video thread
Holger wrote:
Ambassadors must be loyal to the Country they represent. Arbitrage can never decide what Country he wants to live in, let alone be a citizen of.
Arbitrage is a man of the World. The World may not even this one....Are people getting crazy now? Knowing how to operate a camera for a specific niche doesn't make you an ambassador. There are many here knowing how to do that.
Additionally, Pius is obviously underrating Galer's knowledge, who is quite versatile.
If you are not a Sony user, then to the blind the one-eyed or seeing one is king ;-)
You can't deny he's knowledgeable, and he hits you guys hard when you poke the Bear...
1bwana1 wrote
Pius Sullivan wrote
Don't know why Sony hasn't picked you up as an Ambassador, seriously.Arbitrage is a man of the World. The World may not even this one....
Additionally, Pius is obviously underrating Galer's knowledge, who is quite versatile.
If you are not a Sony user, then to the blind the one-eyed or seeing one is king ;-)
You can't deny he's knowledgeable, and he hits you guys hard when you poke the Bear...
Mar 28, 2021 at 04:18 PM
p.68 #17A1 Reviews/Video thread
Pius Sullivan wrote:
Ambassadors must be loyal to the Country they represent. Arbitrage can never decide what Country he wants to live in, let alone be a citizen of.
Arbitrage is a man of the World. The World may not even this one....Are people getting crazy now? Knowing how to operate a camera for a specific niche doesn't make you an ambassador. There are many here knowing how to do that.
Additionally, Pius is obviously underrating Galer's knowledge, who is quite versatile.
If you are not a Sony user, then to the blind the one-eyed or seeing one is king ;-)You can't deny he's knowledgeable, and he hits you guys hard when you poke the Bear...
Yes, I didn't deny that. So are others. From my point of view, I see nothing extraordinary. If you shoot professionally, you need to know your gear and know what you are doing. Setting up a camera a certain way and knowing when to use certain AF settings is mandatory, don't you think?
Holger wrote
1bwana1 wrote
Pius Sullivan wrote
Don't know why Sony hasn't picked you up as an Ambassador, seriously.Arbitrage is a man of the World. The World may not even this one....
Additionally, Pius is obviously underrating Galer's knowledge, who is quite versatile.
If you are not a Sony user, then to the blind the one-eyed or seeing one is king ;-)
Yes, I didn't deny that. So are others. From my point of view, I see nothing extraordinary. If you shoot professionally, you need to know your gear and know what you are doing. Setting up a camera a certain way and knowing when to use certain AF settings is mandatory, don't you think?
Mar 28, 2021 at 04:25 PM
p.68 #18A1 Reviews/Video thread
Holger wrote:
Are people getting crazy now? Knowing how to operate a camera for a specific niche doesn't make you an ambassador. There are many here knowing how to do that.
My post was 100% for humor only.
Arbitrage has proven his knowledge in his area of specialty. We all recognize that, and are grateful for his participation and sharing.
Marc Galer has been an invaluable resource for me in my learning and enjoyment of the Sony system. He has a broad spectrum of knowledge crossing many photographic genres.
I see no reason to compare the two. Each are valuable.
Are people getting crazy now? Knowing how to operate a camera for a specific niche doesn't make you an ambassador. There are many here knowing how to do that.
My post was 100% for humor only.
Arbitrage has proven his knowledge in his area of specialty. We all recognize that, and are grateful for his participation and sharing.
Marc Galer has been an invaluable resource for me in my learning and enjoyment of the Sony system. He has a broad spectrum of knowledge crossing many photographic genres.
I see no reason to compare the two. Each are valuable.
Mar 28, 2021 at 04:31 PM
p.68 #19A1 Reviews/Video thread
1bwana1 wrote:
My post was 100% for humor only.
Arbitrage has proven his knowledge in his area of specialty. We all recognize that, and are grateful for his participation and sharing.
Marc Galer has been an invaluable resource for me in my learning and enjoyment of the Sony system. He has a broad spectrum of knowledge crossing many photographic genres.
I see no reason to compare the two. Each are valuable.
I couldn't agree more with you, but I find watching Galer's reviews he's always slighting other reviewers and brands. As a professional and a Sony ambassador he should show some restraint and
avoid doing that. The other reviewers that he's slighting are free lancers they seem mostly loyal to click bait. Just my opinion!
Holger wrote
Are people getting crazy now? Knowing how to operate a camera for a specific niche doesn't make you an ambassador. There are many here knowing how to do that.Arbitrage has proven his knowledge in his area of specialty. We all recognize that, and are grateful for his participation and sharing.
Marc Galer has been an invaluable resource for me in my learning and enjoyment of the Sony system. He has a broad spectrum of knowledge crossing many photographic genres.
I see no reason to compare the two. Each are valuable.
I couldn't agree more with you, but I find watching Galer's reviews he's always slighting other reviewers and brands. As a professional and a Sony ambassador he should show some restraint and
avoid doing that. The other reviewers that he's slighting are free lancers they seem mostly loyal to click bait. Just my opinion!
Mar 28, 2021 at 04:58 PM
p.68 #20A1 Reviews/Video thread
Pius Sullivan wrote:
My post was 100% for humor only.
Arbitrage has proven his knowledge in his area of specialty. We all recognize that, and are grateful for his participation and sharing.
Marc Galer has been an invaluable resource for me in my learning and enjoyment of the Sony system. He has a broad spectrum of knowledge crossing many photographic genres.
I see no reason to compare the two. Each are valuable.I couldn't agree more with you, but I find watching Galer's reviews he's always slighting other reviewers and brands. As a professional and a Sony ambassador he should show some restraint and
avoid doing that. The other reviewers that he's slighting are free lancers they seem mostly loyal to click bait. Just my opinion!
Please stick to
Canon
1bwana1 wrote
Holger wrote
Are people getting crazy now? Knowing how to operate a camera for a specific niche doesn't make you an ambassador. There are many here knowing how to do that.Arbitrage has proven his knowledge in his area of specialty. We all recognize that, and are grateful for his participation and sharing.
Marc Galer has been an invaluable resource for me in my learning and enjoyment of the Sony system. He has a broad spectrum of knowledge crossing many photographic genres.
I see no reason to compare the two. Each are valuable.
avoid doing that. The other reviewers that he's slighting are free lancers they seem mostly loyal to click bait. Just my opinion!
Please stick to
Canon
Mar 28, 2021 at 05:39 PM